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  • Krisz
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    A good solid episode, so good to have SGU back! Back to certain old school Stargate fixes though, especially with the way the drone was brought on board the Destiny and its technology unraveled in a miraculously short time frame again. Yes, I too was reminded of that drone mine SG-1 brought on board the cargo ship in 'The Serpent's Venom'.

    Most of all I loved how the characters interacted in the face of this latest adversity. Lovely fleeting moments that showed how much they had bonded in the time they've been together. Young's face trying to look impassive as Chloe kissed him goodbye! Scott walking out of the shuttle holding Chloe's hand, uncertain about what was to happen, echoing the look in 'Cloverdale' during the marriage scene.

    Rush, oh Rush, what a character! Totally throwing us as the viewers and his hapless crewmates with the Mr Nice Guy routine. I can't believe for a moment that he has changed, just uses what he's learnt about them to manipulate them to allow him to continue with his perceived mission with as little interference as possible. By keeping them busy with 'important' things they won't notice what he's really up to so readily! You can get lost in the maze of Rush's character, that's why I like him so much, and played so well by Carlyle.

    Another alien race bites the dust! Wasn't season two written taking into account the possibility that there may not be a renewal for another season? If so, the way the Ursini went out, with noble intent at least was not a bad way to end that storyline. I suppose if SGU continued it was left as an assumption that their race was extinct, leaving open the possibility that other groups of Ursini could still be scattered around the galaxy. Poor Telford, he looked genuinely shocked and sad when their ship was destroyed.

    As for Chloe, I'm not so sure she still has the knowledge. She may remember equations, but were the ones she gave Rush to look at correct, or was he just saying it to make her feel that she was still useful? Maybe he didn't want to tell her after all she'd been through as he does seem to genuinely care for her.

    "Everything happens for a reason". So Rush is considering that. It was funny that as a result he now feels that Young leaving him on the planet wasn't such a bad thing after all. Guess Young did knock some sense into his head with the 'head butt of doom' after all!

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  • Gollumpus
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    I thought the interaction between Rush and Wray was interesting. Was he just annoyed at every other person commenting on his kinder and gentler side, or was he inferring to Wray that he does indeed have a "plan"?

    regards,
    G.

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  • the fifth man
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    Really good episode. This one far exceeded what I was expecting. It will be interesting to see what is up with Rush. He seemed a little too nice IMO.

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  • imperio
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    well i loved this episode it may not have been the ending i and im sure many other people have hoped for but i liked best 2 parter since be all my sins remembered my favorite moments was when the blueberry alien mothership appeared in front of the shuttle, when the second drone command ship appeared and launched it drones, kinda reminded me of a basestar launching raiders BUT COOLER, when the destiny shot its main cannon i honestly had no idea it was that powerful, the ursini suicide run reminded me of again battlestar at the battle of new caprica and the pegasus sacrificed itself to ensure the galactica could escape, and the last part was rush and chloe's little talk reminded me of lost a little but

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  • aretood2
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    *gets two pennies*

    I have to say, Rush might finally start to grow on me Too bad Chloe will never go blue now, at least from what we've seen this episode. I liked the pace in it and for me the sequence of events was nice. I new the Usinri would end up doing something good, I just wasn't sure what. The only surprise in this episode was Rush, I think he is changing but just doesn't want to admit it himself...though in a way he kinda did.

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  • Phenom
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    Yeah I quite liked the ep too. A few odd plot points (Ursini going down as the worst kamkaze pilots in history for one..), and I did fast forward through the torturous Chloe/Scott 'I love you more, no I love YOU more' goodbye scene. Apart from that a whole lot of good fun, again made better by the brilliant RC. How good an actor is that dude!

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  • Nth Chevron
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    Well they are Lost in space..

    Good episode with excellent dynamics, i loved the bit were Rush praised Eli, telling him what he could do if he applied himself. Makes me even more excited for the inevitable Mckay/Eli convo

    N.C

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  • D Toccs
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    Anyone else think that Rush's speech at the end sounded almost word for word like something that John Locke would say?

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  • VampyreWraith
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    Originally posted by carmencatalina View Post
    I thought she looked awesome - apparently, those spacesuits make everyone look cool. I want one!

    I agree with the comments here about the Ursini suicide run - it seemed a bit random. I was thinking they were trying to use the seedship to ram the command ship - sort of take out their enemy in a blaze of glory. But that obviously didn't work, if that was the plan.

    Overall, I like the episode, although it wasn't perfect. I loved the "alien examination" scene with Chloe and the Blues - something out of Fox Mulder's worst nightmares, and creepy-good fun. The blues continue to creep me out - and I hope we see them again before it is all over.

    I'm not sure what to think of Rush. Giving out compliments to Brody and Volker, then turning around and saying "they would just get in the way", that I liked.

    And I do believe him when he said he has always cared about Chloe - even from the first day on Destiny, after her dad died, he gave her that incredibly lame but I think sincere little speech to try to make her feel better (after she walloped him). He has always struck me as someone who does care about people, but is too self-absorbed to do any sort of reaching out very well.

    I'm disappointed we didn't get more (or more interesting) TJ, but that is part of the drawback of such a large cast - can't pay attention to everyone every time.

    Overall, I think I would give this an 7.5 out of 10 (and that's relative to the other very good episodes we've seen so far this season).
    I also liked Rush complimenting Brody and Volker and then pretending that it wasn't a compliment when Eli called him on it. What I didn't like was overly sentimental (imo) Rush giving Chloe a pep talk towards the end of the episode, it just seemed really weird. I do think he cares about her and the rest of the crew too, but being so open about didn't seem to suit him imo. I agree with pretty much everything else you said in your post too. The Ursini suicide run felt off; loved seeing the blues again; not enough TJ; Park looked cool in the spacesuit.

    I hope the Chloe/mutation thing isnt over, even if I think it has been dragged out a bit too long already. I would be dissappointed if all that came out of half a season worth of mutation, were a quick fix and super math skills, and the blues finding out more about Destiny. I think I'd give this episode a 6.5-7 out of 10. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the episodes.

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  • Egle01
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    Originally posted by kudra View Post
    Rush and Chloe was very interesting - he has seemed to have a special bond with her from the start but more obviously since they were both kidnapped by the blues.
    You mean like when Chloe attacked Rush after her father had died? They weren't exactly getting along in "Water" either. And that's why I love their relationship right now.

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  • kudra
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    Good episode, nice balance between character moments and action and I could buy into the several ways they got out of trouble.

    I thought the Ursini's sacrifice was understandable and proves they were basically good guys. They dropped Destiny in it originally to save their race/colony but once all hope of that was gone (and with nothing to go back to) they wanted to go out doing the decent thing.

    Rush and Chloe was very interesting - he has seemed to have a special bond with her from the start but more obviously since they were both kidnapped by the blues. I think the way he looked at the notebook and back at Chloe at the very end suggests he doesn't think she's totally cured. I don't think she'd still have super genius alien math skills if she's completely back to normal and I don't buy Rush's explanation for it and more importantly I don't think he buys it either. I'm still not sure if he's using her or protecting her or a bit of both.

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  • Egle01
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    Originally posted by The Swarm View Post
    Anyway back on topic:

    Spoiler:
    Chloe is not cured, just wait 4 more episodes....
    MHUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Let's just say you're lucky I managed to read that spoiler elsewhere. That's not nice, really.

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  • The Swarm
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    I think he is just pecking at us out of bitterness. SGA died becouse the rateings were dropping. SGU is dieing of the same disease. The problem is the franchise, it needs a complete reboot.




    Anyway back on topic:

    Mod insert : Spoilers for future eps including 2.15 onward under tag.As is mandatory.
    Spoiler:
    Chloe is not cured, just wait 4 more episodes.... MHUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Last edited by Bagpuss; March 8, 2011, 01:23 PM.

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  • thekillman
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    I've been a member for quite a long time, but posted only once before...this is because watching SG1 and SGA and reading stuff was well enough for me..No more. As much as it pains me to know that a universe I've grown up with is dieing, SGU deserves to last just another half season imho. The CGI and (very) few action sequances are real good, but It's a deus ex machina after another, half the show is filled with touchy feely moments that remind me of a cheap teenagers drama movie, without coming even close to the pathos and emotions inspired by SG1 and SGU. And I'm referring to the non-action moments. On top of that, virtually no exploration, alien pussies (I mean...just trying to compare "the Blues" with the Goa'Uld, the Replicators, the Ori and the Wraith is madness), the weird feeling that every galaxy they travel through is basically empty or long dead (for all we know IRL they might be, but in theory a sci-fi show should answer the whole "are we alone" question with a "hell no" just like they'd been doing in SG1 and SGA) and phenomenal stuff like a million-year-old Alteran shuttle interface talking to aliens coming from who knows how many billion lightyears away from the milky way......IN ENGLISH. And a random guy jamming and hacking drones that apparently wiped out a civilization in 2 minutes with an ASUS laptop. I don't know whether to laugh or cry...as far as I'm concerned, this isn't Stargate. Call me nostalgic if you will
    alien pussies (I mean...just trying to compare "the Blues" with the Goa'Uld, the Replicators, the Ori and the Wraith is madness),
    realistically the universe won't be filled with aliens who want to kill us for no good reason. the goauld were evil for no other reason than being evil. so where the Ori, so where the Wraith,.

    the weird feeling that every galaxy they travel through is basically empty or long dead (for all we know IRL they might be, but in theory a sci-fi show should answer the whole "are we alone" question with a "hell no" just like they'd been doing in SG1 and SGA)
    no. life is something rather fragile. not every planet will be filled with life, not by a long shot. oh and we've seen plenty of life. most if it simply didn't get much further than some plants and a few animals.


    and phenomenal stuff like a million-year-old Alteran shuttle interface talking to aliens coming from who knows how many billion lightyears away from the milky way......IN ENGLISH.
    that's what the entire mind probe thing was for, remember.

    And a random guy jamming and hacking drones that apparently wiped out a civilization in 2 minutes with an ASUS laptop.
    considering you have to destroy a command ship before you can reprogram the drones, and then the changes only affect drones of the same cluster, it's not that much of an achievement. also it wasn't really hacking. the only thing they really did was flip the IFF codes for friend and foe. since anything not a command ship is a foe, that IFF can't be THAT complex.



    I don't know whether to laugh or cry...as far as I'm concerned, this isn't Stargate. Call me nostalgic if you will
    i laugh. people in an entirely different galaxy spoke english. without any way to have possible learned it. and you call the Blues communicating via text in english, using nothing but a few simple words "crazy" or something like that? wake up.

    and the "solving problems in 2 minutes?" Mckay destroyed entire civelizations of hyperadvanced beings with the push of a button. hacked through hyperadvanced supercoding in minutes. understood millions of years more advanced technology in a few hours. and operated alien technology worlds away from ours with little to no trouble.

    this couldn't be much more stargate than stargate itself


    at least SGU gives reasons for this. the IFF trick was clearly the easiest of all possibilties. they claimed the programming language was pretty easy but the programming itself was hard. how much software protection do you want to put on a drone?
    also the Blues talking english (they don't BTW, they type it) was explained. SG1 and SGA had millions of english talking aliens for no reason

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  • thekillman
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    Which was also seen on SGA in the void between Pegasus and the Milky Way...
    in reality, if we would cruise through the galaxy, it's more likely to be devoid of life rather than teeming with it. life doesn't form easily. it doesn't survive easily. earth life has gone near-extinct several times. humanity has gone near-extinct several times.



    oh and you shouldn't watch BSG then, since they never encounter ANY aliens AT ALL.

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