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Originally posted by jelgate View PostI don't count that as killing off a main character due to chickening out and reviving them. Killing off a main character means they stay no resurrection machines
Just so we know we are on topic, we are talking about SGU killing off main characters, and if they will do it or not. So it makes it a more powerful cliffhanger if we think that no one is safe.sigpic
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostI know you have to respect what SGA did, but I understand bringing him back kinda ruined the whole drama to Carson dying in the first place. If you think about it, SGA was the only SG show to date to kill off a main character. Bringing him back is just a totally different discussion. I loved the Kindred, but did not care for him in Season 5 as much.
If they kill off a main in the next season or so, and leave them dead, I will be very impressed. But I don't think they will because of this fandom.
Ironically, the "darker and edgier" SGU hasn't really killed a main person yet. The biggest so far being Senator Armstrong, but it was only his death that made me like him. They have yet to kill someone that people really liked before. Yes, I know, most shows, the main cast has plot armor, but that really needs to change.
If I were writing this, then the only "safe" people I'd have would be Rush, Eli, and Wray; that's it. Somewhere along the lines, I'd kill off people like Young, Scott, Greer, having them give their lives in the course of their duty. I'm tempted to kill off Brody or Volker, but they kinda have a "those two guys" vibe, and we're short on scientists as it is. I'd then have Varro step up as a second, with Wray taking charge. A changeover of military rule to civilian rule, which would really shake things up, and give Wray a chance to shine more. Young is just too.... depressive and stupid.
Instead, we get Red-shirt Rivers, and perhaps a red-shirt baby; which fails as an attempted shock value.
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostI asked you to overlook the revive part and think about it. Well blame the fans and their petition not the creativity.
Just so we know we are on topic, we are talking about SGU killing off main characters, and if they will do it or not. So it makes it a more powerful cliffhanger if we think that no one is safe.
We'll we know they aren't going to kill off the SGU main characters. Its just very rarelly is done in TV. Unless contracts become an issueOriginally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostI can't. Killing off a main character has to stay dead for it to count for me. Like what they did to Janet.
We'll we know they aren't going to kill off the SGU main characters. Its just very rarelly is done in TV. Unless contracts become an issue
Thats also the problem with this episode, there is no tension going into the next episode, cause they arent going to be killed in the 3rd part of a trilogy, and lets be honest, some of these characters need to be killed off, the quicker the better.Chief Galen Tyrol: But how do you know I'm human?
Brother Cavil: Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon, and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.
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Originally posted by mparsons1981 View PostThats also the problem with this episode, there is no tension going into the next episode, cause they are going to be killed in the 3rd part of a trilogy, and lets be honest, some of these characters need to be killed off, the quicker the better.
Like I said above, if Kiva shot TJ, that would of been WOW!!!sigpic
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Originally posted by mparsons1981 View PostThats also the problem with this episode, there is no tension going into the next episode, cause they arent going to be killed in the 3rd part of a trilogy, and lets be honest, some of these characters need to be killed off, the quicker the better.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostThat can be said about any season finale though. We all know no one is going to kill Jack for example. And no I don't think any of the main cast needs to be killed off. They all bring their own dynamic. Some may need some more screentime. I'm looking at you TJsigpic
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostI think too many people got shot. It should of been one person and shot by someone else. Like look at BSG, when Boomer shoots Adama. Did not see that coming, that was a WTF! type moment. With SGU, as soon as the crossfire happened in the Infirmary, I said, TJ is going down.
Like I said above, if Kiva shot TJ, that would of been WOW!!!
There was nothing unexpected about this episode, and unlike adama none of the characters are that well done for me to care.
Of course, i am bias about galactica...Chief Galen Tyrol: But how do you know I'm human?
Brother Cavil: Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon, and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostWhat about Greer? He has become wallpaper. It's funny about Greer, I actually now hate him, and like Scott now. Scott stood up to Young, where as Greer is Young's puppet. I also loved Rush's comment when someone was killed. Young got upset but he was thinking the same thing as Rush. So these characters have their moments. Sadly some have them more than others.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostI think too many people got shot. It should of been one person and shot by someone else. Like look at BSG, when Boomer shoots Adama. Did not see that coming, that was a WTF! type moment. With SGU, as soon as the crossfire happened in the Infirmary, I said, TJ is going down.
Like I said above, if Kiva shot TJ, that would of been WOW!!!
We know everyone will survive in the main cast, so there's not much suspense. In First Strike, I'm not sure if we knew that Higginson was out as a main cast member, when it aired. But that would have made it a lot less sure that she survived, and well at that time it was a bigger cliffhanger to me. Not as much as say, Crossroads Part II from BSG, or the scene Brigante mentioned. But still very well done.
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I do agree in that greer has become the most interesting character alongside rush in the series.
Getting away from episode discussion but characters that i would keep are,
Eli, Rush, Greer, Young, TJ,
Everyone else can be blown up for all i care.Chief Galen Tyrol: But how do you know I'm human?
Brother Cavil: Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon, and I've never seen you at any of the meetings.
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Originally posted by Utitan View PostDid they seriously Just kill TJ??? Chloe too??!! I cant effin believe it just ended like that... with you still on the edge of your frackin chair!! No That wasn't fair at all.. brilliant writing. And one big HooRah to the marine blasting everyone.. maybe except for TJ. I'm damn glad Kiva got one, looks like her replacement is worse.
Originally posted by SciFiRick View PostMore likely TJ will survive but lose the baby. Chloe just passing out due to blood loss. I thought the bald guy was more a body guard, follower and killer “on command†and then he takes command? I didn't see that coming. Of course he is almost as evil as Kiva so maybe nobody would dare challenge him. Varro would have been the one I would have expected to take charge especially since we know now that his recuperative powers are off the scale. It seems to me that would make him super human or he is a snake head.
Originally posted by garhkal View PostWEll, we know Telford is dead, as that LA guy felt his neck and left him there..
Originally posted by garhkal View PostHe also played the Gou'ald hired Bounty hunter in an earlier ep of SG1.. forgot the eps name.
He also played a Russian officer in SG1, Season 8, "Full Alert".
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostI know you have to respect what SGA did, but I understand bringing him back kinda ruined the whole drama to Carson dying in the first place. If you think about it, SGA was the only SG show to date to kill off a main character. Bringing him back is just a totally different discussion. I loved the Kindred, but did not care for him in Season 5 as much.
If they kill off a main in the next season or so, and leave them dead, I will be very impressed. But I don't think they will because of this fandom.
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Originally posted by Briangate78 View PostGotta say, that First Strike was much more of a cliffhanger, because you really thought Weir was not going to make it since the actress did not sign onto the next season as a full time cast member. Heck was chatting with Alaina Huffman tonight,Spoiler:and she will be back full time next season, lol.
The baby, I don't think will make it.
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