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  • Energizer_Vs_ZPM
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    Originally posted by Railgun View Post
    Like I said before Eli would use the stones so he wouldn't be bored at all. He'd probably spend most of the trip on Earth while SGC sent specialists to use his body to fix up Destiny in the meantime.
    With just two weeks life support? - You're making up your own stuff about the scrubbers not needing power to suit yourself and get away from the plots actual limitations. We've been told that its a 3 year jump and destiny needs every ounce of spare power to make it. Now suddenly you're finding not only enough power to keep a shuttle lit up but also for someone else to spend "most of the trip" repairing destiny? Are you serious?

    Where is the power for the life support (that was stated on the show as being a problem due to power) going to come from? How is Elis body going to survive without clean air in order for SGC personnel to repair the ship? How are they going to get materials and supplies on board without enough power to dial either galaxy?

    Sorry Railgun but those of you who insist he survives on the shuttle have some seriously flawed logic and it goes against the very grain of logic we've had explained to us on the show itself.

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  • Quizziard
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    Originally posted by Railgun View Post
    I don't know the power requirements of the stasis pods I'd assume it's not massive though. It might be worth trawling the transcripts to see if it's said anywhere.
    What IS in the transcript is that the one person who stays out only has ship's power for two weeks of "minimal life support". Then either he/she dies, finds another source or kills everyone else on board by stealing energy from the amount needed to power the ship to the other side of the void.

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  • Railgun
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    Originally posted by Energizer_Vs_ZPM View Post
    But the ships systems have been shutdown in order to have enough energy to make it to the next galaxy. Where do you think the energy to keep hydroponics is going to come fr



    May be a chemical reaction but the air is still pumped through them in order to scrub it. That requires pumps and plenty of them in order to keep the air flowing through the scrubbers. It was clearly stated that there would be maximum life support of just two weeks.



    Where is this stated? - The shuttles entire systems would be powered up so it will still be sapping energy continually and this wasn't calculated into the power equations for the jump to the next galaxy. What I'm saying is that there was not enough power to run the shuttle.
    By wearing the space suit sometimes Eli could extend this further if needed.



    Death it is then. You do know that human waste produces methane gas and carbon dioxide don't you? Without enough surplas power to run the shuttle that will kill Eli if he hasn't choked on his own vomit first (caused by the stench).



    But just waking up other crew members and then going back into stasis will consume even more energy. It's like starting a car.. the starter motor draws a lot of power to start the car. It then uses a lot of energy to start moving. To stop it it consumes energy to apply the brakes (the ecu injects more fuel to increase the engine power so that it has enough power to brake without stalling). While running at a nominal speed however, it doesn't use quite as much energy or fuel as it is at a stable speed with no heavy acceleration or braking.

    To put it bluntly, using the shuttle or even a space suit is not only practically impossible but also theoretically impossible. Then you have the boredom, the mental health, the lack of space, lack of excercise etc. Could you survive in the space of a shuttle for 3 years in the middle of nowehere, no friends, no family, nothing to do, no facilities and not have a single panic attack?

    You've just not thought it through.
    You don't need to pump air through the scrubbers. With lime(assume that the Novan substance works in a similar way) at least it's a chemical reaction so it will leach CO2 out of the air to feed the reaction. If you blow used air through it may be a bit quicker but it's not going to make much difference.

    For the shuttle to move it needs to have kinetic energy this means that the shuttle will use more energy when travelling as opposed to being stationary. The laws of Thermodynamics tell us that energy is conserved.

    Seriously, have you seen the size of Destiny. He's not going to suffocate from methane poisoning due to inhaling his own waste products any time soon. To be extra safe I'd advise him to go down to Rush's quarters to take a dump and be sure to close the doors afterwards.

    I don't know the power requirements of the stasis pods I'd assume it's not massive though. It might be worth trawling the transcripts to see if it's said anywhere.

    Like I said before Eli would use the stones so he wouldn't be bored at all. He'd probably spend most of the trip on Earth while SGC sent specialists to use his body to fix up Destiny in the meantime.

    The one left out of the stasis pods isn't the one left out to die, he's the one who gets to decide which of the others he'd like to eat first. They wanted a 'darker' more edgy side to the show lol

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  • Brother Freyr
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    Originally posted by garhkal View Post
    BUT what we are saying is that with teal'c, he was stored cause he came Into the SGC gate via a fully connected wormhole, but was kept in the buffer cause the wormhole got disconnected before fully intergrating him.
    How is eli going to duplicate that?
    A stargate, not a wormhole, de-materialized Teal'c on one end, and a stargate (not a wormhole) eventually re-integrated him on the SGC end. The techno-babble in that episode established that the wormhole is only a conveyance. Wormholes are the phone lines, and stargates are the telephones. The gates themselves handle all of the de-materializing and re-integration. Thus, a wormhole (according the stargate mythology) isn't theoretically needed for a stargate to dematerialize matter. Normally, it de-materializes matter and stores the information (energy pattern? whatever) in the buffer until it detects that the entire object is processed, then and only then sending the energy (or whatever) into the wormhole for transportation. (That part was revealed in yet a different episode.) Eli could theoretically store himself in the buffer, without a wormhole, assuming the stargate has sufficent power for that operation.

    Note: I don't really like the way the pseudo-science developed on this one, but we're stuck with what we have.
    Last edited by Brother Freyr; 20 February 2013, 04:36 PM.

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  • Energizer_Vs_ZPM
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    Originally posted by garhkal View Post
    How is eli going to duplicate that?
    *SIGH*

    Again, by reconfiguring the gate via the computer terminals. As I've stated already, Destiny and its gate are not a normal setup. They're both wired into the ships systems and so should be able to reconfigure the gate programmatically instead of crystal swapping.

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