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  • jelgate
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    Damn you FH. The last thing I needed to get involved was another rewatch. I think for my own sanity I will follow the order you go in that when you post I will know its time for another episode. I think I couldn't do more than 3 episodes a week. So just keep me appraised of your order and what episodes for each week.

    Lets be honest. FH is obsessed with Heightmeyer. Wait that is not it. Well it is but its not what I wanted to be honest about it. I honestly don't care for the original movie. Its starts off good with Daniel uncovering the mystery of the Stargate. But once you get to Abydos it slows to a grinding halt that leaves me bored. Their are some highlights with the mastadige and Jack connecting with Skarra but overall its flat until Ra arrives to explain what he is. Even with Ra and the uprising on Abydos the progress is lacking. Its not always clear how one event leads to another as we battle Ra. Its just feels rushed with lack of explanations.

    Now for shameless showboating. I got 9 out of 10 on FH's quiz. I thought one was a trick question as they weren't technically Jaffa under the cartoche since Jaffa weren't created until Children of the Gods so I was overthinking. I did know about Jaye Davidson but that is an advantage to me being a long time member so we fans have talked about the strange things that have happened and him running naked was one of the stranger ones. I got 9 minutes and 15 seconds on the puzzle so aretood. Once again curse you FH

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  • Falcon Horus
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    Originally posted by mooseman View Post
    The quiz works(missed 3), but question 2 has a typo.
    -- oh dear, please tell me where I wrote a mistake so i may fix it asap.

    Originally posted by mooseman View Post
    When the movie first came out, I really wasn't impressed. In fact, I avoided watching the show because of that. Fortunately, my now wife got me into the series around season 7 or so and I caught up with DVDs. The movie has grown on me, but much prefer the show. I now put it in the GOOD category.
    I agree that the movie didn't impress me either, yet according to IMDB it was a fall success in 1994.

    Originally posted by aretood2 View Post
    Did the puzzle in fifteen Minutes and 31 Seconds
    Noted!

    Originally posted by garhkal View Post
    For me that quiz i get 8 of 10.. Never knew that the actor playing ra
    Spoiler:
    stripped naked and walked off set cause he hated the outfit
    , or that there
    Spoiler:
    was only 1 cat that appeared in the whole movie
    Tricky questions just for the heck of it.

    You should have seen my score on the SG1 Anniversary quiz on Stargate Command, I scored 4 out of 10 and could have gotten 5 if my screen hadn't been so damn sensative to touch. I missed the correct answer by a millimeter.

    I thought the trivia was hilarious.

    There's another one that I first wanted to use. He also has or had nipple rings which he refused to take off so the costume department had to work around those.

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  • garhkal
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    Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Promised some fun stuff...

    I sincerely hope it works: Stargate (1994) Quiz & Jigsaw

    How would you rate Stargate (1994)?

    Excellent
    Good
    Fair
    Poor
    Terrible
    For me that quiz i get 8 of 10.. Never knew that the actor playing ra
    Spoiler:
    stripped naked and walked off set cause he hated the outfit
    , or that there
    Spoiler:
    was only 1 cat that appeared in the whole movie


    As for rating it, i give it between good and excellent!

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  • aretood2
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    Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Promised some fun stuff...

    I sincerely hope it works: Stargate (1994) Quiz & Jigsaw

    How would you rate Stargate (1994)?

    Excellent
    Good
    Fair
    Poor
    Terrible
    Did the puzzle in fifteen Minutes and 31 Seconds

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  • mooseman
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    The quiz works(missed 3), but question 2 has a typo.

    When the movie first came out, I really wasn't impressed. In fact, I avoided watching the show because of that. Fortunately, my now wife got me into the series around season 7 or so and I caught up with DVDs. The movie has grown on me, but much prefer the show. I now put it in the GOOD category.

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  • Falcon Horus
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    Promised some fun stuff...

    I sincerely hope it works: Stargate (1994) Quiz & Jigsaw

    How would you rate Stargate (1994)?

    Excellent
    Good
    Fair
    Poor
    Terrible

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  • aretood2
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    This is why that avatar fits you.

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  • garhkal
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    Originally posted by Metallica93 View Post
    I love how garhkal just mass replied to 4-6 year old posts.

    Now that's dedication.
    Well, i first saw this thread 3 days ago, but noticed i had not replied on it before, so was like "i will just give it a look see... ''
    then i decided to go through all the back posts, and saw a lot to reply to.

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  • Falcon Horus
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    Originally posted by aretood2 View Post
    So um...how fast is this rewatch going to be?
    2-3 episodes a week -- may take us a while.

    But hey, if it means keeping Stargate on people's minds a little while longer than why the hell not.

    Originally posted by garhkal View Post
    It was interesting to see that, especially since this came about in the 90s, right during the height of the "smoking bad" fad.
    That had me going, "Oh yeah, that time when they were still allowed to smoke in films."

    Originally posted by garhkal View Post
    I always wondered if that change in how she acted, was CAUSE of the change in actress, or something else.
    Much like the character of O'Neill, they too changed Shau're. O'Neil with 1 L sure didn't have a sense of humor, and Sha're in the series was perhaps in the beginning less feisty, but when chosen to be Amaunet's host she changed into that fighting Abydonian we knew from before.

    Originally posted by Metallica93 View Post
    I love how garhkal just mass replied to 4-6 year old posts.
    Now that's dedication.
    I legit have never seen him talk that much before.

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  • Metallica93
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    I love how garhkal just mass replied to 4-6 year old posts.

    Now that's dedication.

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  • garhkal
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    Originally posted by hermantheowl View Post
    Ra's guards looke impressive (Althoug Ra himself seemed less menacing than the Goa'uld of SG-1) and the finale was good ("Send my regards to King Tut...").
    Maybe cause he was the high foutin tootin supreme system lord, no one had challenged him that way before..

    Originally posted by Flak View Post
    The fight scene between jack and anubis in the movie kick [email protected]@!

    It's grimy and long. it felt like a serious brawl
    It also makes you wonder.. IN the show, we saw several times Teal'c easily beat Jack.. SO was 'anubis' really that bad of a fighter, OR did the show 'dumb down' how good Oneill is in a fist fight?

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  • garhkal
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    Originally posted by CarsonBeckett View Post
    Now I had realized 2 different things: O'Neil son's name (Tyler at the movie, Charlie in the serie),
    For finish, a questions:
    Movie or serie?
    Kurt Rusell or Richard Dean Anderson?
    James Spader or Michael Shanks?
    And following...

    I never noticed the whole name change of Oneill's kid..
    As for me. Series over movie
    Russell for Jack over RDA but Michael hands down for Daniel over spader..

    Originally posted by SoundWaveV View Post
    I think they knew the gate did more then just rotate... (how? is a good question) The line "in-case you succeed" is a dead give away... Also, the Galaxy Map looked quite complex... It would have made less sense if they said they made it in 2 weeks.

    I look at it as... Langford (and some military people) knew a wormhole would open.. The reaction of Langford and some of the people in the room when it happened furthers this assumption... Perhaps, Langford needed someone of Jackson's intellect to convince the government that the risk wasn't too high to give the device a real test.

    Lets try to clean this plot hole!
    If you remember from the series (torment at tantelus) SHE had no idea they had opened it up successfully before..

    Originally posted by hlndncr View Post
    I agree. It's hard to meld the movie and the series together. But ToT was an attempt by TPTB to do just that.

    And if you consider that Catherine knew her dad's team were dialing random symbols to try and get the gate to work, and as far as she knew that caused an explosion that killed her fiancee, I can see why she would be hesitant to just plug in random symbols trying to find the 7th Chevron.
    That is a very valid reason why she and her team were not just randomly trying symbols..

    Originally posted by Krisz View Post
    It was like watching it for the first time again. It was such a difference from the theatrical version. There were a few bits I'd never seen before that added a whole lot to the overall story. Also it was cleaned up nicely, giving lovely clear crisp images compared to the dark grainy VHS version I'd first bought the movie in!!!
    You're not alone there. My first copy of this was on VHS and i played it twice before the DVD came out.. I shelved buying it for a while, until i heard about the special edition with the added in scenes..

    Originally posted by Krisz View Post
    It was a joy to sit and watch the foundation for the fantastic Stargate franchise being laid. It was the sheer mystery of what they were faced with that I loved as a concept of the Stargate story. How ancient history was mixed with the idea of an alien creating the human civilisation. Daniel finding out about this unknown history of Earth from people who were taken at the time from Earth and who continued to live in that way unchanged while civilisation continued to advance on Earth.
    And what made it all fun for me and many of my friends, was the whole fact it was set in the HERE and NOW... Compared to so many other sci-fi films with travel to other planets..

    Originally posted by Krisz View Post
    The costumes and sets are wonderful, great attention to detail. Ra's ship I thought always looked so cool, the way it landed and then opened up to bring in natural light and air making it more of a palace rather than a spaceship on the ground.
    I always wondered. WAS His ship the only one that did that? And was his the only one tha didn't have that funky framework around it?

    Originally posted by Krisz View Post
    I think this movie was unfairly treated by the critics at the time and it wasn't a movie that attracted much attention. It's a shame because I thought it was well paced with action and filled with the awe and mystery of discovering that there was more to Earth history than anyone thought!! This is the sort of thing I like, shame the critics dididn't, they certainly missed the point of the whole thing that makes good Sci Fi, believable worlds out there and civilisations with amazing technology.
    IMO it was far better than many other sci-fi films in that year..

    Originally posted by muziqaz View Post
    regarding bold: There is a thing in a movie creation: make your viewer interested and pleasantly shocked. You know if they made Stargate take us to say Moon, or other part of this planet, it would meh to viewer. No sensationalism there. Even if you say that it takes to alpha centauri system, it still would be not as sensational as going to the edge of known universe. With such idea you can keep a viewer interested, and most of them(sci fi fans) would say: Wooow, cool, they are going to other side of the universe.
    That is why you have computers make those cheesy noises in action/sci fi movies, or that fancy software interface on those computers, even though they are just repainted Dell XPS laptops. I think it is waist of time to nit pick such things, especially when Stargate movie was created when noone had any thoughts to make a TV series out of it.
    So true. I remember in my watching of it in the theater, the # of gasps i heard when they heard "That's right dr jackson, the otherside of the known universe" from Dr Langford, sure showed it had the desired effect. Making people go OOH, and AHH...

    Originally posted by muziqaz View Post
    I never paid any attention to any critics. For me it looked that they always look at movies from some weird perspective. Never seemed to look at it from different angles.
    Like saying that say, sci fi movie does not have a good story or plot(not talking about Stargate here, just in general as an example), even though that movie might have fantastic sound/visual effects and idea, for which a movie might be great. Some movies are not meant to have great stories and stuff like that, sometimes they are created for us to enjoy it from different perspective.
    IMO its just the standard critics/holly weird elites general dislike of accepting/rewading sci-fi movies..

    Originally posted by LeftHandedGuitarist View Post
    I often think it's a shame that some more of the movie actors did not return for the series, notably French Stewart as Feretti (although Feretti was barely used in SG-1 anyway).
    Both Feretti and Kawalski i always preferred the movie version of them, and like you, wished they could have reprises their role in the show..


    Originally posted by LeftHandedGuitarist View Post
    A big point that doesn't get addressed is how Daniel dials the gate from the planet - obviously the DHD does not exist in the movie universe and it's not really made clear. The same point can also be made about just using trial and error to find the 7th symbol, but in this case they really had too much going on.
    I've never even given that a thought before..

    Originally posted by juggernaut975 View Post
    Had a chance to listen to Darren and David's review of the film on the podcast, never knew that Spader thought that the script was 'awful'.

    On one hand I'm kind of mortified because, well, it's Stargate, dammit, a fantastic movie , on the other hand, I have to kind of respect his brutal honesty...how many times will you hear an actor openly admit 'Hey, I thought it was awful but it was a paycheck so I did it...'
    It would have been nice to have heard how he felt AFTER the movie came out..
    Was it still an 'aweful script"?

    Cont' next post.

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  • garhkal
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    Originally posted by Flak View Post
    I love the deleted scenes in the extended cut that show the jaffa helmet and armor. it's also weird seing some of the things that got changed. for instance, the movie says that the gate sent them to the other side of the known universe. when the show has Abbados in our galaxy.

    great movie though, its what sparked my interest for sure. i have always loved egyption/alien theories.
    It always irked me that they had that biggest of guffaws.. Along with Ra's alien looking like the Asgard..

    Originally posted by fwupow View Post
    Watching it right now. I remember seeing this movie title on the marquee at the movie theater nearest to my little Vermont home-town (30 miles away). Of course the title made me think Sci-Fi but the "Kurt Russell" & "James Spader" underneath convinced me that it was a hoax designed to lure Sci-Fi lovers like me into a movie about some talent agency.
    Kurt's been in other Sci-fi movies.. Not sure on Spader..

    Originally posted by fwupow View Post
    All the cigarette smoke rising during Danny's first briefing is so 70s
    It was interesting to see that, especially since this came about in the 90s, right during the height of the "smoking bad" fad.

    Originally posted by LeftHandedGuitarist View Post
    I went to see it at the cinema when it first came out - I remember being dragged to see it by a school friend. Even though I was a sci-fi fan, for some reason nothing about what I'd heard attracted me to the movie. I remember when the opening credits started and the title "S T A R G A T E" spread across the entire cinema screen, I thought that was cool. And then when the words "Creature effects by..." appeared, I suddenly became interested.
    As a sci-fi fan and a fan of Kurt, i had to see it in the theater.. BUT alas only saw it the once there. The rest of the 5 times i've seen it are on tv/dvd..

    Originally posted by Zoser View Post
    The same actors: Skaara and Kasuf - love them both
    Same here. And it was a real pity we had to lose them in the series (end of S6).. Also a pity they couldn't get the actress who played Shar'e back for her roll..

    Originally posted by Zoser View Post
    Did I mention before how much I liked the way Ra's soldiers (Jaffa but no symbiotes) were dressed.
    I always wondered, WHY his guards were not proper Jaffa the way we knew them..

    Originally posted by hlndncr View Post
    The one thing I think the TV show got wrong was changing the character of Shau'ri so much. The actress who played her was so much better (and prettier IMO) than the actress who played Sha're. Also, Shau'ri was smart and fiesty. She inspired and led the rebellion. They dumbed her down so much in the TV show. She was a like a simpering child--an empty headed damsel in distress. It was very insulting.
    I always wondered if that change in how she acted, was CAUSE of the change in actress, or something else.

    Originally posted by Kilgharrah View Post
    Again I'll repeat what I said, the only problem was that they couldn't find the seventh symbol. They already knew there had t be one and that's why they programmed it in the computer, they just didn't know which one. That's where Daniel came. HE re-translated everything and found the seventh symbol.
    One other thing, just because they knew there was a seventh symbol doesn't mean they knew it was meant to be the point of origin. Daniel figured that part out. They thought it was a code. A sequence.
    But HOW did they know they needed 7 symbols?

    Originally posted by LeftHandedGuitarist View Post
    I think the Horus guards and Anubis looked absolutely fantastic in the film (that's what a bigger budget will get you), and the snake-heads in the TV series never worked. They looked pretty cheesy and ridiculous.
    Maybe it was cause the film had a bigger CGI budget for how the helmets worked..

    Cont next post.

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  • garhkal
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    Nice rundown falcon. I especially like the small texts almost like a thought bubble..

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  • aretood2
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    So um...how fast is this rewatch going to be?

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