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[melpomene]

Perhaps it was nice to see a more mature woman like Daniel, but I really would prefer to see a woman introduced in the story that didn't automatically become the love interest for one of the major characters. A woman who is independent and truly loyal to her significant other would have been ideal. It seemed Leda began as that type of character, but I groaned when her husband asked if she had feelings for Daniel.

Sure she had feelings for Daniel, my point was she didn't wallow in them. I'm not saying it's a good thing she had these emotions, which is a form of infidelity I suppose. But she seemed to regret this and I believe had a strong attachment and loyalty to her husband. I think the entire episode was an exploration of human strengths and frailties and the choices they make. Both in the small and larger issues of life.

And while I see your point about the perpetual love-interest thing, I think they've done rather well in that regard. I mean looking back, the characters rarely have more than one real love-interest a season. (Not counting season 8 which I've dubbed "The Year of Infidelity") That's really not a bad record for a TV show I don't think.

[Darkstar]

i do like stand alone episode and the idea was great but something was lacking in it and i cannot think what it was!?

[timdalton007]

I surprised myself by actually liking it. It wasn't a grand and glorious shoot em up, but it was good drama. I thought the religious-fanatic-who-worships-goa'uld is a little overused (reffering to 'New Ground' and other eps where the Goa'uld haven't actually been seen) But one could argue that's what the shows about.
-I found Daniel's use of Goa'uld as code intelligent, I thought tha flashbacks gave it a good energy and didn't find them jarring or confusing at all. It suited the episode.
-I liked the drama of Sam/Jack/Teal'c's search and concern for him, and I liked the scene where Jack snaps at Sam. Because it really showed his frustration at his helplessness in the loss of his friend.
-I found the ending interesting because they have absolutely no qualm's of turning the tide of this civil war. And they didn't re-use the 'moral dillemma' from 'The Other Side' but they left the thought there for anyone to notice. Along with Kane shooting Soren when he didn't really have to. They didn't torture the point to death, but acknowledged it.
-I liked the show of brotherhood in battle between Daniel and Kane and the fact that it didn't revolve around Kane's wife.
-And last but not least...It was worth it just to see a woman attracted to Daniel who wasn't a simpering coniving anoying little twirp. Leda had guts, she was brave -hiding the men in the basement and facing a group of armed and ruthless men on her own- And she didn't make a play for Daniel. She was honest about her feelings but she wasn't all, "Take me with you Daniel! Please, please please!" she let him go very gracefully. She was mature, which I think showed a step in Daniel's growing up.

This says everything I was going to say.

timdalton007

[cafine_us]

-And last but not least...It was worth it just to see a woman attracted to Daniel who wasn't a simpering coniving anoying little twirp. Leda had guts, she was brave -hiding the men in the basement and facing a group of armed and ruthless men on her own- And she didn't make a play for Daniel. She was honest about her feelings but she wasn't all, "Take me with you Daniel! Please, please please!" she let him go very gracefully. She was mature, which I think showed a step in Daniel's growing up.

Perhaps it was nice to see a more mature woman like Daniel, but I really would prefer to see a woman introduced in the story that didn't automatically become the love interest for one of the major characters. A woman who is independent and truly loyal to her significant other would have been ideal. It seemed Leda began as that type of character, but I groaned when her husband asked if she had feelings for Daniel.

[melpomene]

I surprised myself by actually liking it. It wasn't a grand and glorious shoot em up, but it was good drama. I thought the religious-fanatic-who-worships-goa'uld is a little overused (reffering to 'New Ground' and other eps where the Goa'uld haven't actually been seen) But one could argue that's what the shows about.
-I found Daniel's use of Goa'uld as code intelligent, I thought tha flashbacks gave it a good energy and didn't find them jarring or confusing at all. It suited the episode.
-I liked the drama of Sam/Jack/Teal'c's search and concern for him, and I liked the scene where Jack snaps at Sam. Because it really showed his frustration at his helplessness in the loss of his friend.
-I found the ending interesting because they have absolutely no qualm's of turning the tide of this civil war. And they didn't re-use the 'moral dillemma' from 'The Other Side' but they left the thought there for anyone to notice. Along with Kane shooting Soren when he didn't really have to. They didn't torture the point to death, but acknowledged it.
-I liked the show of brotherhood in battle between Daniel and Kane and the fact that it didn't revolve around Kane's wife.
-And last but not least...It was worth it just to see a woman attracted to Daniel who wasn't a simpering coniving anoying little twirp. Leda had guts, she was brave -hiding the men in the basement and facing a group of armed and ruthless men on her own- And she didn't make a play for Daniel. She was honest about her feelings but she wasn't all, "Take me with you Daniel! Please, please please!" she let him go very gracefully. She was mature, which I think showed a step in Daniel's growing up.

[SilverRider]

Bah! This ep had me hooked, I was looking soooooooo forward to a showdown and what I get a lame ending....Kane shoots Soran. Bah! Lame!

[Stricken]

i just saw icon and i have to say it was a bit confusing but it was a cool idea though!

took the words right out of my mouth

[ApophisOfTheStargateRealm]

i just saw icon and i have to say it was a bit confusing but it was a cool idea though!

[jckfan55]

I kept expecting the "resistance" guys to go up to the grannie's bedroom only to have her shout "ze nobs, zey are flashink" (only viewers of 'Allo 'Allo will get that one) and for a girl in a beret and trenchcoat to say "I shall say zis only once"

Ha! Were Soren's guys in leather trench coats? that would have made it perfect. I thought it was only an ok episode.

[david2708]

The ads were more interesting, I'm afraid. I was bored by the whole thing.

[SeaBee]

Actually, the good guys were using M1 Garands. Aside from the flare gun that the head bad guy had, virtually all the weapons fell within a 15 year time range.

M1, PPS, PPsH, AK-47.

Thanks MF, the good guys guns were bugging me no end.

[Major Fischer]

Actually, the good guys were using M1 Garands. Aside from the flare gun that the head bad guy had, virtually all the weapons fell within a 15 year time range.

M1, PPS, PPsH, AK-47.

[SeaBee]

Oh dear, the idea for this ep was ok, but all in all, a nothing episode.

Why such a mix of weapons?

The good guys are using carbines, WW1 from the look of them, the bad guys are using russian AK47s and pump action shotguns and their leader has a pistol that looked like something Buck Rodgers would have carried.

What was the timescale?

Daniel in one scene looks like he used his face to stop a lawnmower blade, a couple of cuts later and his face is unmarked, not even a hint of a scar.

[Matt G]

Eventually getting round to checking this ep out!

Basically, break off a chunk of New Ground and a chunk of 100 days, drizzle in a bit of Meridian(the place looked like it had similar tech to Kelowna) and mix! I've seen worse but this comes from shake n bake school of writing!

It was a laugh seeing the MALP heading towards the tourists. Would have been an even bigger laugh had one of Soren's men just shot him at the end.

[Anubis]

Icon. I didn't think the beginning caught my interest that much, so I didn't pay much detailed attention to this episode as I would have others, but a second-time watching might help.


Daniel was pretty decent in the episode, a lot of focus based around him, which is a good thing sinc we don't see him on the spot that often. The planet seemed fine to begin with, but a civil war? I think that might have been a bit farfetched, but understandable.


Not an amazing episode, but good enough.