S10: Critique & Contemplation

[Silverwings]

It seems like it's all about business & not a love of the product. I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive.

Amen, absolutely and indeed.

Edit: Yay, what a 300th post!

[Arga]

Something is bothering me... about replicators of the "bug type"...

Didn't they use to be immune to regular bullets? I mean, sure, they get scrambled for a few seconds, but they reassemble soon after the shot.
In recent episodes with such replicator spiders, it seems that shooting them with a P90 kills them permanently.
Was the old canon too annoying to keep?

Or am I wrong?

[RealmOfX]

Something is bothering me... about replicators of the "bug type"...

Didn't they use to be immune to regular bullets? I mean, sure, they get scrambled for a few seconds, but they reassemble soon after the shot.
In recent episodes with such replicator spiders, it seems that shooting them with a P90 kills them permanently.
Was the old canon too annoying to keep?

Or am I wrong?

details, shmeetails!! Can't you be a good little sheep and follow the flock and ignore 8 years of canon and just ooh and ahh at the brilliant tripe placed before thee?

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actually that is a common problem with ongoing sci-fi shows they create a super foe and then it becomes too hard to keep up the hopeless fight against them (takes too much thinking to write themselves out of a corner) and so magically they become easier to dispose of.

[AGateFan]

Something is bothering me... about replicators of the "bug type"...

Didn't they use to be immune to regular bullets? I mean, sure, they get scrambled for a few seconds, but they reassemble soon after the shot.
In recent episodes with such replicator spiders, it seems that shooting them with a P90 kills them permanently.
Was the old canon too annoying to keep?

Or am I wrong?

Actually bullets always worked against replicators thats why the Asgard recruited our help. They are too advanced to ever think of the concept of basically hurling tiney rocks at the reps even after they found out how amazingly well it worked. So they needed the primative ("stupid" ) humans to help them out.

TPTB lost their way when they created the human form replicators, and made them immune to actual bullets requiring the first in a long line of "super weapons" to be hunted down and used on them. They still redeemed themselves a bit by having to have a human "stupid" enough to download the ancient database in his head AGAIN and then be able to translate that information to make the first anti replicator gun. But then THAT wasnt good enough so they made the humans (and thor) actually stupid enough to give replicarter full access to the gun so she could come up with a defense and then its been one superweapon hunt after another. They finally put an end to it again in Reckoning...but we saw how long TPTB were able to live without the replicator cruch, and it wasnt long.


Funny, I had a dream last night about watching an Atlantis ep where the characterization (especially of Carter) was so !@#$%^ off and so S9-10 like that I had to come in here to rage about it and actually used !@#$%^.....too bad I cant remember the exact rage, I am sure it was amusing. Odd too since I havent watched any stargate since last weekend. Maybe its a accumulation of all the plotholes and bad characterization for the last 3 years in (what used to be) the stargate universe......GOD now theres a show I hope never gets made. Oh well.

[suse]

I still prefer the Replicators to the Ascended (the Ancients are okay) and especially the (B)Ori.

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[suse]

From Joe M's 2/28 blog:

I’d never sat through a concept meeting that clocked in at less than 45 minutes before! Sadly, we weren’t even close. The record is held by a Robert Cooper SG-1 season 10 script that took less than 1 minutes to get through!

Well, by S10 I'm thinking *they* were thinking, "What's the point??"

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[Mandysg1]

From Joe M's 2/28 blog:

I’d never sat through a concept meeting that clocked in at less than 45 minutes before! Sadly, we weren’t even close. The record is held by a Robert Cooper SG-1 season 10 script that took less than 1 minutes to get through!

Well, by S10 I'm thinking *they* were thinking, "What's the point??"

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See that just shows you how much time they put into the quality of the show

[jckfan55]

From Joe M's 2/28 blog:


Well, by S10 I'm thinking *they* were thinking, "What's the point??"

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Is there hope that a long meeting means some of the plot gaps & dumb "humor" won't be in the script JM speaks of? Or will it be *more* dumb humor?

[AGateFan]

From Joe M's 2/28 blog:


Well, by S10 I'm thinking *they* were thinking, "What's the point??"

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That shows you the high quality of S10.
So what context was that in? Because it actually seems to explain a lot about how things ran. Do it coopers way, no fact checking, no how-come-rooming...nothing but yes sireebob that looks good to me.

[jckfan55]

well when you're the producer who writes & then also directs, what are your underlings going to say to criticize your "brilliant" product?

[suse]

Is there hope that a long meeting means some of the plot gaps & dumb "humor" won't be in the script JM speaks of? Or will it be *more* dumb humor?

Not sure if you mean the Atlantis script. I'm hoping it'll be fine.

I just pointed out the S10 script as this is the Anti-S10 thread... and yes, I'm pretty sure he didn't mean one minute, but more likely 11-19 minutes, I was just having fun with the comment.

Certainly a *very* short meeting like the S10 one likely wouldn't bode well for the episode. It would take longer than that to *read* the script.

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[suse]

well when you're the producer who writes & then also directs, what are your underlings going to say to criticize your "brilliant" product?

That was my point. Ans when you think about stuff the showrunner added to eps (CoT: "Damn you Cam Mitchell, the wave to the vacumed Lucien Alliance guy) it really makes you wonder...

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[Mandysg1]

well when you're the producer who writes & then also directs, what are your underlings going to say to criticize your "brilliant" product?

Underling 1: So what, pizza for lunch today?
Underling 2: How about chinese?
PTB: Pizza it is, meeting over.

[AGateFan]

That was my point. Ans when you think about stuff the showrunner added to eps (CoT: "Damn you Cam Mitchell, the wave to the vacumed Lucien Alliance guy) it really makes you wonder...

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Makes you wonder? Or makes you shudder?

[suse]

Underling 1: So what, pizza for lunch today?
Underling 2: How about chinese?
PTB: Pizza it is, meeting over.

Yup

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