Oh mang. That is incredibly harsh. SG-1, never even approached the depths of idiocy, racism and sheer... blandness of Voyager or Enterprise. It may have been trying hard to go in that direction but it never came close to being modern Star Trek.
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Originally posted by Gregorius View PostYou have more faith in TPTB than I have. Isn't this new show supposed to have a genius that eclipses even McKay and Carter?
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Originally posted by Crazedwraith View Postso Alan, Greg, Evenstar, what do you think of SG-1 Season 10?
- Mitchell
- Vala
- Landry
- SG-1
- The Ori storyline
- The writing
- The humour
There were just some decisions made by TPTB across Seasons 9 and 10 that I feel could have been handled in a far, far better, more realistic, and more respectful way than what I saw on-screen.
I've said this before and I'll say it again...I am above and beyond ecstatic that there's only a minor 40 episodes of what I've listed to put up with whilst the far more superior first 8 seasons constitute a fantastic 170-odd episodes of enjoyment.
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Regarding the third movie and Stargate: Continuum -
Spoiler:I am so happy that Movie III will mainly feature the original 4 cast members of Stargate SG-1. I know that Claudia Black hasn't been asked back and Ben Browder, last I heard, wasn't sure what was happening and he was concentrating in other areas of his career (I'll take those as hopeful signs of his non-involvement) because, as much as Stargate: Continuum felt like a return to the days of Seasons 1 - 8, it still suffered from problems...the main one for me being that Mitchell's life in the altered time-line was explored and, once more, HE saved the day. Again. "SG-ME" indeed.
Hopefully TPTB won't make the same mistakes with Movie III. Brad Wright sounds like he's realised what a gift he has with Richard Dean Anderson as Jack O'Neill. And Rick himself has said that he's always happy to come back and play so I've got high hopes for the next Stargate SG-1 movie.Last edited by Alan; 04 August 2009, 03:38 PM.
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Originally posted by Alan View Post[*]The humour[/LIST]
- the *definitive* Stargate SG-1!
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Originally posted by Alan View Post<snippety snip>
[*]The humour
(On that note, even Jack of late S8 became a bit ridiculous. But it's Jack. I dunno. I'll borrow his line from 2010 and just say it's the war. Bottom line, I can't be held objective since I'm of the school of thought that says The Jack can't not be quality.)
- the *definitive* Stargate SG-1!
Regarding the third movie and Stargate: Continuum -
Spoiler:I am so happy that Movie III will mainly feature the original 4 cast members of Stargate SG-1. I know that Claudia Black hasn't been asked back and Ben Browder, last I heard, wasn't sure what was happening and he was concentrating in other areas of his career (I'll take those as hopeful signs of his non-involvement) because, as much as Stargate: Continuum felt like a return to the days of Seasons 1 - 8, it still suffered from problems...the main one for me being that Mitchell's life in the altered time-line was explored and, once more, HE saved the day. Again. "SG-ME" indeed.
Hopefully TPTB won't make the same mistakes with Movie III. Brad Wright sounds like he's realised what a gift he has with Richard Dean Anderson as Jack O'Neill. And Rick himself has said that he's always happy to come back and play so I've got high hopes for the next Stargate SG-1 movie.you're so cute when you're slurring your speech but they're closing the bar and they want us to leave
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"Religion is far more of a choice than homosexuality. And the protections that we have, for religion --we protect religion-- and talk about a lifestyle choice! That is absolutely a choice. Gay people don't choose to be gay. At what age did you choose not to be gay?" (Jon Stewart, The King of Common Sense)
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Originally posted by Crazedwraith View Postso Alan, Greg, Evenstar, what do you think of SG-1 Season 10?
However, none of the episodes really captured my interest like the ones I watched in reruns from seasons 1-8. I wasn't too concerned about getting home in time for the Friday first runs, but made sure to catch the Monday mini-marathons. At the time I just shrugged it off as a show that I just lost interest in, but finding this forum and fandom made me interested in trying to figuring why I had lost interest.
I think the main reasons why season 10 (and 9) were disappointing to me were the poorly written enemies in the Ori and Lucian Alliance, the poorly or unevenly written characters in Mitchell, Vala, Lam, and Daniel to an extent, and the shift in tone towards more silly or bawdry humor. There are still things about season 10 that I enjoyed, the Sam/Vala/Teal'c stuff in Uninvited, Sam in Company of Thieves and Road Not Taken, and Sam/Teal'c in Unending to name a few. But aside from LITS, I have little desire to rewatch any of the episodes, while season 1-8 I tend to catch every chance I get.
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Originally posted by Crazedwraith View PostI'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Are you referring to Sam and Tea'c getting marginalised in favour of Daniel and Vala?
While true. Its not really relevant to the actual budget. You have to pay your main cast the same amount not matter how little they appear in an episode or even if they don't appear at all.
When S10 contracts were being made TPTB contacted everyone - including new cast member Claudia - except Amanda with contract offers. She finally called either Coop or Brad, not sure which to see if she needed to look for another job. This is the reference in 200 where the panicked female actress calls Marty to see if she is in the movie.Funny. NOT! Seems they weren't sure what they wanted to do with Sam. They were thinking of moving her over to SGA for an unspecified number of episodes. Might have worked storywise, might not have, but in the end they couldn't work out the contract to do that. as to my opinions about why they would have that idea.
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Originally posted by slurredspeech View PostEven though I agree with the list in its entirety, I must single out 'humour' as it often made my ears bleed. The playfulness of earlier seasons was spot on 99% of the time. And then somewhere along the way the writers forgot they weren't writing for a sitcom (which, btw, thank god for that, 'cause that sitcom would tank after the first season.) Even if the jokes/gags were good (and I cannot stress enough how flat and cringe-worthy and just plain BAD they were; you know when you feel embarrassed for other people -- yeah that), it's not what SG-1 was about. Everything in moderation.sigpic
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Originally posted by scifithinker View PostNot only were the joke just plain bad, many were also offensive. The biggie that comes immediately to mind is Landry's comment about Sam and Orlin having an intimate relationship, but Vala's sexual harassment of Daniel was just awful... and ongoing. *cringes*
*clutches first eight seasons*you're so cute when you're slurring your speech but they're closing the bar and they want us to leave
'What is it, Sebastian? I'm arranging matches.'
"Religion is far more of a choice than homosexuality. And the protections that we have, for religion --we protect religion-- and talk about a lifestyle choice! That is absolutely a choice. Gay people don't choose to be gay. At what age did you choose not to be gay?" (Jon Stewart, The King of Common Sense)
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Ori - the most ill-conceived and poorly executed bad guys ever. I don't even know, mate. I don't even know. *shakes head*you're so cute when you're slurring your speech but they're closing the bar and they want us to leave
'What is it, Sebastian? I'm arranging matches.'
"Religion is far more of a choice than homosexuality. And the protections that we have, for religion --we protect religion-- and talk about a lifestyle choice! That is absolutely a choice. Gay people don't choose to be gay. At what age did you choose not to be gay?" (Jon Stewart, The King of Common Sense)
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