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Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran Ship/Discussion/Appreciation Thread
Welcome, Iawen! The one thing I loved the most about Unending was that it was our Daniel and Vala. It wasn't an alternate reality, it was just our timeline sped up (and with, granted, a little push from odd circumstances). Unending was a promise that we'd get there, that Daniel and Vala were for all extents and purposes an inevitability. So barring deaths, TPTB cannot change that fact.
I agree with 100%! I mean....it's like that Unending was like a premonition of what things could lead to. I mean....cmon....we (Fruitcakes) all know they were meant for each other.
And what we got in Unending is exactly why we won't see any further relationship development....because as far as TPTB are concerned the relationship was resolved in Unending....it answered the question being asked since Prometheus...are they in love with each other? The question was answered in that lovely 'window' scene. TPTB don't see any further need to do anything else with the relationship.
On this topic I'm glad we got Unending instead of another season(bite my tongue,lol)...I suspect that if there had been an 11th season, TPTB still wouldn't have resolved it....sorta like they've still got J/S up in the air.
Maybe IF, J/S gets unquestioningly resolved...no timeline screws up, no alien possession, no alternate universes. in the third movie....we might get something else in a later movie but I won't hold my breath.
I'm really tempted to drop a note to someone...maybe JM or RCC, that if they really want to resolve DV once and for all and never have to revisit the relationship again, all they have to do is have MS wear his wedding ring. It'll satisfy everyone...all who believe in DV will swoon everytime they see it....those that don't want any 'ship' at all will be happy because it'll mean that the topic will never be brought up again and those that can't stand the thought of DV can ignore it, knowing that they'll never have to hear about DV again either because the ring will make any references to their relationship unneccessary.
LC
(I would, however, love to be proven wrong.)
And what we got in Unending is exactly why we won't see any further relationship development....because as far as TPTB are concerned the relationship was resolved in Unending....it answered the question being asked since Prometheus...are they in love with each other? The question was answered in that lovely 'window' scene. TPTB don't see any further need to do anything else with the relationship.
On this topic I'm glad we got Unending instead of another season(bite my tongue,lol)...I suspect that if there had been an 11th season, TPTB still wouldn't have resolved it....sorta like they've still got J/S up in the air.
Maybe IF, J/S gets unquestioningly resolved...no timeline screws up, no alien possession, no alternate universes. in the third movie....we might get something else in a later movie but I won't hold my breath.
I'm really tempted to drop a note to someone...maybe JM or RCC, that if they really want to resolve DV once and for all and never have to revisit the relationship again, all they have to do is have MS wear his wedding ring. It'll satisfy everyone...all who believe in DV will swoon everytime they see it....those that don't want any 'ship' at all will be happy because it'll mean that the topic will never be brought up again and those that can't stand the thought of DV can ignore it, knowing that they'll never have to hear about DV again either because the ring will make any references to their relationship unneccessary.
I think that using Unending as a reason to not develop the relationship any further is stupid. They took back everything that happened! So yes, the audience knows without a doubt that Daniel and Vala are in love with each other, but they still don't know how each other feels. Ugh.
The wedding ring solution would work fine, but I would rather see it happen on my screen personally. Especially since all we've gotten about J/S is a bunch of implication through dialogue. If they can give us a canon SGA couple *I know some people love McKellar, some people hate them, but they're officially a canon couple, and the only canon couple we've seen get together* then they can show us one SG-1 couple finally make it. That's how I feel about it.
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I think that using Unending as a reason to not develop the relationship any further is stupid. They took back everything that happened! So yes, the audience knows without a doubt that Daniel and Vala are in love with each other, but they still don't know how each other feels. Ugh.
The wedding ring solution would work fine, but I would rather see it happen on my screen personally. Especially since all we've gotten about J/S is a bunch of implication through dialogue. If they can give us a canon SGA couple *I know some people love McKellar, some people hate them, but they're officially a canon couple, and the only canon couple we've seen get together* then they can show us one SG-1 couple finally make it. That's how I feel about it.
I'm the opposite...I think. I just want a line or very short scene that confirms Daniel/Vala's relationship. Mostly, at this point I don't want an Unending-type scene because I think it's already happened. And it would mess up my personal canon to have it happen in canon years later. But something small, but not too small—a wedding ring could be taken to heart by many Daniel shippers—that just confirms their togetherness.
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I think that using Unending as a reason to not develop the relationship any further is stupid. They took back everything that happened! So yes, the audience knows without a doubt that Daniel and Vala are in love with each other, but they still don't know how each other feels. Ugh.
The wedding ring solution would work fine, but I would rather see it happen on my screen personally. Especially since all we've gotten about J/S is a bunch of implication through dialogue. If they can give us a canon SGA couple *I know some people love McKellar, some people hate them, but they're officially a canon couple, and the only canon couple we've seen get together* then they can show us one SG-1 couple finally make it. That's how I feel about it.
I too like the wedding ring solution ! I want more vala though, she is important to sg1 today.
As for the "canon ship", it happens to be one I refuse to recognize (it's all an AU anyway ) so I still want my s/j and d/v!
Beta so all input is welcome. This should already be finished by now but I got distracted by Crayon Physics
Challenge was to make Vala vid with few restrictions
*clips from single episode (Memento Mori)
*clips can't contain any other member of SG-1
*use effect created yourself (Cel-shading)
Cel-shading function for Avisynth
It's not real cel-shading but it tries to do something similar
Applied to this video with CelShade(threshold=3.25, sigma=2.25, denoise1=false, denoise2=false, iterations=6, tStep=0.2)
First encode with 64bit version of x264 which also meant some workarounds (piping with avs2yuv) had to be used to get 32bit Avisynth to feed the frames to 64bit x264
additionally I had to force the correct framerate
Lyrics:
Spoiler:
Sia - Breath Me
Help, I have done it again
I have been here many times before
Hurt myself again today
And, the worst part is there's no-one else to blame
Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me
Ouch I have lost myself again
Lost myself and I am nowhere to be found,
Yeah I think that I might break
I've lost myself again and I feel unsafe
Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me
Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me
I have no idea what this video is about
Also beta, after 2:00 it's pretty much random clips thrown together to make it as long as the song
This was also episodic challenge
*clips from Avalon part2
Lyrics:
Spoiler:
Charon - Rain
Dying rose in a vase of gold
For someone who rains
And brings her to life again
Blood on your defeated leaves
And a tear for your arm
No soul to weep for her
Rain above her eyes never reached to make her blind
And the fire colored night
Tragedy by trust, lost her world to the pyre
And the fire wrote these lines
Seized to a world that's built on lust
The dream has begun
To share its silent touch
Her loving turned to dust
Frail in my hands, soul twisted out, crawling to the end...
Rain above her eyes never reached to make her blind
And the fire colored night
Tragedy by trust, lost her world to the pyre
And the fire wrote these lines
Rain above her eyes never reached to make her blind
And the fire colored night
Tragedy by trust, lost her world to the pyre
And the fire wrote these lines
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Inside soft clouds we have drowned so deep in slumber our feet have lost the ground...
Help, I have done it again
I have been here many times before
Hurt myself again today
And, the worst part is there's no-one else to blame
Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me
Ouch I have lost myself again
Lost myself and I am nowhere to be found,
Yeah I think that I might break
I've lost myself again and I feel unsafe
Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me
Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me
Lyrics:
Spoiler:
Charon - Rain
Dying rose in a vase of gold
For someone who rains
And brings her to life again
Blood on your defeated leaves
And a tear for your arm
No soul to weep for her
Rain above her eyes never reached to make her blind
And the fire colored night
Tragedy by trust, lost her world to the pyre
And the fire wrote these lines
Seized to a world that's built on lust
The dream has begun
To share its silent touch
Her loving turned to dust
Frail in my hands, soul twisted out, crawling to the end...
Rain above her eyes never reached to make her blind
And the fire colored night
Tragedy by trust, lost her world to the pyre
And the fire wrote these lines
Rain above her eyes never reached to make her blind
And the fire colored night
Tragedy by trust, lost her world to the pyre
And the fire wrote these lines
I think that using Unending as a reason to not develop the relationship any further is stupid. They took back everything that happened! So yes, the audience knows without a doubt that Daniel and Vala are in love with each other, but they still don't know how each other feels. Ugh.
The wedding ring solution would work fine, but I would rather see it happen on my screen personally. Especially since all we've gotten about J/S is a bunch of implication through dialogue. If they can give us a canon SGA couple *I know some people love McKellar, some people hate them, but they're officially a canon couple, and the only canon couple we've seen get together* then they can show us one SG-1 couple finally make it. That's how I feel about it.
I think I'm in agreement with you, I would rather see it on screen, wouldn't have to be much but something that I would be able to visualise. Although the wedding ring solution would work if we couldn't have that. However I do believe that Mckeller becoming canon has paved the way for them to go down that path, whether they will or not well that's a different story
Interesting installment to the story LC, left a review. Wow I've only just noticed I hadn't added you to my favourites. I've remedied that now
Am still waiting for the videos to download, could be a while!
Of course I loved the chapter! Everything you write is gold! Remembering that scene from Unending, I almost saw Daniel's reaction coming. I wasn't surprised. Loved how you did it. I agree with you that Daniel has his b****** moments. They usually come out when he feels too much.
hey cakes!
finally i am back again!
have been sick all week lying in bed, was soo not funny. i was nauseaus, dizzy, had fever and couldnt do anything other then sleep
today i'm finally better and can use my laptop still have a cough and sneezing, but thats just the rest that will go away too.
Oh was that my first post in this thread? LOL. I didn't mean for my first post here to be a rant, LOL. I've visited this thread before, because Daniel and Vala are my favorite Stargate couple ever. I thought I'd said hello and all that! Sowwies. *cue shame face*
You guys are right, Unending was stating D/V as an inevitability! Sigh.
Fave D/V moments, everyone?
Hmmm... I will have to think hard about what mine is. LOL.
welcome Iawen!!
fav dv moments mhhh....they are in no particular order
1. morpheus, first when daniel talks to landry about letting vala go with them and then vala and daniel walk through the floor and talk, when vala says she needs to work on daniels pc and daniel says she needs his password and vala yells running off "already got it thanks!". i love that!
2. the few moments in flesh and blood they had, i love them
especially you know "leave me, grab her" - "yeah, like thats gonna happen".
3. not to forget their "not a date"-date i'm so in love with that episode
apart from the warehouse-scene i especially like the end-scene, where vala gets the sg1 batch and vala says "we still have to complete our date daniel" and daniel all in denial, "it wasnt a date" and everyone "yes yes, we 'believe' you" *giggles*
4. ohh and quest 1 & 2 are 2 of my alltime favourite episodes, i love them so much
i remember when quest 1 was first shown, and we had to wait half a year for quest 2, and all we had was this picture of vala holding unconcious daniel.
5. daniels rant in unending will also always have a place in my heart
okay girls you're right, i definitely need more points
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