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Originally posted by djay View PostDid you girls catch the latest news on Claudia Black?
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...-New/800018083
There is a preview on YouTube but she is using an American accent. (Why!??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPFiKY-MkC0
DJAY
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Hi, just a 'post and run' while I got a minute.
Everyone read the latest chapter(that would be chapter 11) of this:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3557630/1/Being_Found
THE BEST 'issues disclosure/confrontation' I have ever read...followed by some lovely 'snuggly' stuff.
Wish I could pull it off as well
LC
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Originally posted by Stef View PostITA! I love Tomin/Vala...there's a kind of "classic" aspect about them. This tragic relationship between two people who fall in love despite all of the obstacles between them. Tomin really helped her mature, and she kind of reawakened Tomin after years of isolation and loneliness. And I have to imagine that his role as Adria's stepfather helped him secure a position in the army. All of their scenes are just so great....and heartbreaking. I'm kind of looking forward to and dreading AoT at the same time.
Spoiler:I'm afraid that Tomin will die, will sacrifice himself for Vala. Which is good because then Vala can move on, but also sad because I don't want him to die!
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Originally posted by Stef View PostSee, those are valid points. In my head, I know that they were great episodes....but for some reason I just don't connect to them in the same way that I do to all of the other ones. Hence, why I like "Uninvited" more than PP or "Counterstrike" (BLASPHEMY!!!!!). There are definite moments in each that I like though....in PP: the balcony, Daniel going off on Morgan, explosions, SGA meets SG-1, Rodney/Cam...in Counterstrike: Sha're discussion and Adria's entrance. I'm a freak, aren't I? I'm probably the only person on this board who didn't love PP Maybe I should see a doctor. And I can't even blame it on a lack of D/V.....because there was some. But I also love episodes that have NO DV, so I know it's not just me being narrow-minded. Bleh. Doesn't someone out there somewhere share my confusion?!
This is why I would be chatting up a storm in this theoretical thread for confused opinions.
Can't wait to see what you have to say, DJgirl!
I feel like I should be doing something...oh, that's right, packing up for my big move on Saturday. Eh, I'll just do that tomorrow-Saturday. Besides, I have no boxes anyway. Time to go to the liquor store.....for boxes
-Stef
Firstly, In the firt five minutes of New Order Part1 (the first episdoe of season 8), even before the credits, Daniel and Elizabeth exchnaged permission to call each other by their first names. So what the frak is this "Dr. Jackson" and "Dr. Weir" business? Did they have a fight? Did they become a couple and brake up because he missed the Daedalus? Elizabeth particularly is inclined to call people by their first names. Yes when she is talking to Zalenka and Chuck about Daniel "Dr. Jackson" is appropriate but to address Daniel as "Dr. Jackson"? Not really in character.
The other thing that bugs me is the obvious Canadianism that MS perpetrates in the otherwise American Daniel Jackson. Every American I have ever heard refer to grades in grade school as First Grade or in the case of the grade refered to in PP Fifth Grade. The only other time I've heard the phrasing of "Grade Five" was by a Canadian Character on the show Due South. I don't know why but this drives me bonkers.
But I do love how touchy feelly Daniel is with Vala in PP. Daniel doesn't do much touching of people in general but Vala he can't keep his hands off. Yes some of it is to steer her in the right direction but if you watch closely you'll see that practically every time they are standing next to each other he takes the oportunity to touch her.
I love the way that at first Vala annoys Daniel with the way she wants to search the Ancient library but after a while it seems like they work to geather well.sigpic
thanks StefSpoiler:
Thanks Wendy
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Originally posted by djay View PostJust saw the cover art for Stargate Atlantis season 3:
WTF?? They can fit five characters on Atlantis but not on SG1 with Vala included?!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Not happy.
DJAY
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Ok. Longggg catch-up post.
Originally posted by Stef View PostSo out of curiosity (and hope that I am not really as obsessive as I think I am), I went and checked out the "Who Posted?" stats. What did I discover? Yup, I am that obsessive. I'm at an impressive top-posting spot with exactly 1200 posts in this thread alone (1201 now). Second is our dear Kales who I saw lurking here earlier. DJgirl, you and gioia are making impressing numbers as well considering you joined later than I did. 797 and 534 respectively.
Originally posted by Kath Pup View PostTo reply to random things I can remember from my scanning:
It seems they make D/V more antagonistic after the really emotional ones. I think it's because it's Daniel and Vala are pulling away slightly, as if they're scared to admit that they are getting closer.
Family Ties: I liked it, but I was disappointed becase of the potential of it! So much that could of been done that wasn't... *le sigh*
Family Ties was a good example of wasting of a good oppurtunity/potential for having a good episode. I think all writers should examine it.
Originally posted by isabelqc View Post*running in*
Hey everybody, just coming in to drop off a drabble that came to me in response to all the I love you talk that we had going on before
Spoiler:
Two Words
When Vala said the words, they were whispered. A murmured secret infused with the cherry of her gum. She leaned behind; her arms wrapped loosely around his waist and rested her chin on his shoulder.
The words were soft and invisible but they covered him, a warm blanket a mother uses to soothe her child.
She then did nothing. No kiss. No tease. She just moved away, her warmth remaining, and did nothing. His eyes followed her and smiled. He knew the words were whispered for a reason. Secret words for him to keep, not to act on. Just knowledge. Only for him. To keep until they were ready.
And for the rest of my fics, cuz LC asked, well I have stuff written I´m just waiting for my internet craziness to end, then you guys will be sooo fraking spoil with fic, that you just might OD. All I´m saying is Noir is finished, Chains has been a going good, and Unending, fluff, team ficness, and comedy galore. *cue evil laughter*
Nice little ficlet. Can't wait to see your goodies
Originally posted by DJgirl View PostI loved MM. Everything about it was perfection. I have said many times, I was a shipper from the second she took off that mask in PU, and I had waited quite a while for an ep like this. It is obvious that there are feelings on both ends( I still stand by my previous post in that Vala didn't really know the extent of her feelings until TQ2), and it just made my heart all a flutter!! The date was great, the hug, Daniel acting truly concerned. Just a great ep all around!!
I dunno, it's Vala, of course, hiding herself behind a cheerful facade but I think I assumed that things should have been different with Daniel.
The Shroud....Their talk was amazing!!! Every aspect of it spoke volumes for their relationship. Him being comfortable with her sitting on his lap(not that he had a choice, but it didn't look like he minded), her sitting on his lap, even though he was a Prior. The trust is just so completely there in those few minutes. One of my favorite scenes of the season!!
Originally posted by iheartvala View PostI gotta say, even though I thought Daniel's behavior in this episode sucked, it made perfect sense to me. I mean D/V was a hard ship to sell right up until Unending so did you really expect TPTB to give us what we wanted? Here's what Company of Thieves said to me, as far as D/V...Daniel had just spent two weeks on the edge, constantly worrying about Vala and as Michael Shanks said in the AOL preview for MM, Daniel came to realize some things about his deep connection to Vala, and hello...this is Daniel we're talking about so NATURALLY he would back off and become colder to protect himself. Not to mention the fact that in COT, Vala employed some of her less than reputable contacts to get the SGC what they needed, which clearly upsets Daniel.
I mean when you think about it, doesn't COT actually speak volumes about his feelings for her, and the ship in general? Daniel cares about her so much that he goes completely irrational, doubting her intentions (where earlier he had begun to trust her), and actually getting angry at her for being able to help in the way that she did. I mean if you remember the short convo in the cargo ship where Daniel accuses Vala of pocketing some of the naquada the SGC gave her, she really did seem shocked and hurt at his accusation because it was so out of place for them at the time. As much as we don't want it to be the case, Daniel is probably going to continue to protect himself for a while with Vala because he seems to be that afraid of being hurt. No one has said much about the way he treated her in 200 or Bad Guys either, but those both pop out in my head as other circumstances when he was needlessly impatient with her.
COT for me makes the Unending rant completely reasonable (although still mean ).
LC_, I agree with you too. Nice analysis.
Originally posted by djay View PostDid you girls catch the latest news on Claudia Black?
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...-New/800018083
There is a preview on YouTube but she is using an American accent. (Why!??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPFiKY-MkC0
DJAY
Originally posted by LC_ View PostHi, just a 'post and run' while I got a minute.
Everyone read the latest chapter(that would be chapter 11) of this:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3557630/1/Being_Found
THE BEST 'issues disclosure/confrontation' I have ever read...followed by some lovely 'snuggly' stuff.
Wish I could pull it off as well
LC
Her stories are amazing.
I strongly reccomend them to those who interested with fan fictions. Especially her Qetesh/Vala/Daniel one. It is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.
http://milena-d.livejournal.com/9713.html#cutid1Last edited by gioia; 12 July 2007, 02:20 AM.sigpic
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Ok. Longggg catch-up post.
Originally posted by Stef View PostSo out of curiosity (and hope that I am not really as obsessive as I think I am), I went and checked out the "Who Posted?" stats. What did I discover? Yup, I am that obsessive. I'm at an impressive top-posting spot with exactly 1200 posts in this thread alone (1201 now). Second is our dear Kales who I saw lurking here earlier. DJgirl, you and gioia are making impressing numbers as well considering you joined later than I did. 797 and 534 respectively.
Originally posted by Kath Pup View PostTo reply to random things I can remember from my scanning:
It seems they make D/V more antagonistic after the really emotional ones. I think it's because it's Daniel and Vala are pulling away slightly, as if they're scared to admit that they are getting closer.
Family Ties: I liked it, but I was disappointed becase of the potential of it! So much that could of been done that wasn't... *le sigh*
Family Ties was a good example of wasting of a good oppurtunity/potential for having a good episode. I think all writers should examine it.
Originally posted by isabelqc View Post*running in*
Hey everybody, just coming in to drop off a drabble that came to me in response to all the I love you talk that we had going on before
Spoiler:
Two Words
When Vala said the words, they were whispered. A murmured secret infused with the cherry of her gum. She leaned behind; her arms wrapped loosely around his waist and rested her chin on his shoulder.
The words were soft and invisible but they covered him, a warm blanket a mother uses to soothe her child.
She then did nothing. No kiss. No tease. She just moved away, her warmth remaining, and did nothing. His eyes followed her and smiled. He knew the words were whispered for a reason. Secret words for him to keep, not to act on. Just knowledge. Only for him. To keep until they were ready.
And for the rest of my fics, cuz LC asked, well I have stuff written I´m just waiting for my internet craziness to end, then you guys will be sooo fraking spoil with fic, that you just might OD. All I´m saying is Noir is finished, Chains has been a going good, and Unending, fluff, team ficness, and comedy galore. *cue evil laughter*
Nice little ficlet. Can't wait to see your goodies
Originally posted by DJgirl View PostI loved MM. Everything about it was perfection. I have said many times, I was a shipper from the second she took off that mask in PU, and I had waited quite a while for an ep like this. It is obvious that there are feelings on both ends( I still stand by my previous post in that Vala didn't really know the extent of her feelings until TQ2), and it just made my heart all a flutter!! The date was great, the hug, Daniel acting truly concerned. Just a great ep all around!!
I dunno, it's Vala, of course, hiding herself behind a cheerful facade but I think I assumed that things should have been different with Daniel.
The Shroud....Their talk was amazing!!! Every aspect of it spoke volumes for their relationship. Him being comfortable with her sitting on his lap(not that he had a choice, but it didn't look like he minded), her sitting on his lap, even though he was a Prior. The trust is just so completely there in those few minutes. One of my favorite scenes of the season!!
Originally posted by iheartvala View PostI gotta say, even though I thought Daniel's behavior in this episode sucked, it made perfect sense to me. I mean D/V was a hard ship to sell right up until Unending so did you really expect TPTB to give us what we wanted? Here's what Company of Thieves said to me, as far as D/V...Daniel had just spent two weeks on the edge, constantly worrying about Vala and as Michael Shanks said in the AOL preview for MM, Daniel came to realize some things about his deep connection to Vala, and hello...this is Daniel we're talking about so NATURALLY he would back off and become colder to protect himself. Not to mention the fact that in COT, Vala employed some of her less than reputable contacts to get the SGC what they needed, which clearly upsets Daniel.
I mean when you think about it, doesn't COT actually speak volumes about his feelings for her, and the ship in general? Daniel cares about her so much that he goes completely irrational, doubting her intentions (where earlier he had begun to trust her), and actually getting angry at her for being able to help in the way that she did. I mean if you remember the short convo in the cargo ship where Daniel accuses Vala of pocketing some of the naquada the SGC gave her, she really did seem shocked and hurt at his accusation because it was so out of place for them at the time. As much as we don't want it to be the case, Daniel is probably going to continue to protect himself for a while with Vala because he seems to be that afraid of being hurt. No one has said much about the way he treated her in 200 or Bad Guys either, but those both pop out in my head as other circumstances when he was needlessly impatient with her.
COT for me makes the Unending rant completely reasonable (although still mean ).
LC_, I agree with you too. Nice analysis.
Originally posted by djay View PostDid you girls catch the latest news on Claudia Black?
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...-New/800018083
There is a preview on YouTube but she is using an American accent. (Why!??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPFiKY-MkC0
DJAY
Originally posted by LC_ View PostHi, just a 'post and run' while I got a minute.
Everyone read the latest chapter(that would be chapter 11) of this:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3557630/1/Being_Found
THE BEST 'issues disclosure/confrontation' I have ever read...followed by some lovely 'snuggly' stuff.
Wish I could pull it off as well
LC
Her stories are amazing.
I strongly reccomend them to those who interested with fan fictions. Especially her Qetesh/Vala/Daniel one. It is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.
http://milena-d.livejournal.com/9713.html#cutid1sigpic
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Catch-up time (I'll break it up into a few posts )
Originally posted by LC_ View PostEverytime something happens that makes him see his...what was the line from the from the AOL preview for MM?..."increasing personal connection", he pushes her away big time...sometimes I wonder if the extra snippiness is almost like a test..."if I show you my worst behaviour will you leave?"
So we come to BG and the first thing she does is shoot down his comment about 'being stuck'....almost considered not taking his comment seriously?
Then of course there's whole eye thing going on because of the two people making out in the dark....that's not eye!sex going on people...that's Daniel begin annoyed because she's doing the 'flirty' thing again.
And she's the one to find the way to power the 'gate(albeit with some problems along the way)...there's that resourcefulness again.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my Daniel....but sometimes....
Anyhoo, in response to your comments about BG...I'm still maintaining that it was some sort of eye!sex. No, I don't think it was Daniel thinking "Wish that were us" but I do think it might have been something like "Why did I just think of Vala when I saw those two people kissing? And why is she looking at me like that?" That look between them seemed so unnecessary that I have to believe the reason they only showed their reactions (and their shared look) was to show something more than Vala being flirty and Daniel being annoyed. Now who's being the optimist
Seriously, I may not entirely agree with everyone's explanations, but you guys have raised some very good points that make me question my own interpretations. Thanks
-Stef
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Originally posted by djay View PostDid you girls catch the latest news on Claudia Black?
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...-New/800018083
There is a preview on YouTube but she is using an American accent. (Why!??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPFiKY-MkC0
Originally posted by ErinB View PostI second Wendy; you gotta make this vid, Stef!!
Originally posted by MaeveBran View PostOk you are not alone in your confusion about PP. Ilove it to bits but no other episode in the entire series sets me ranting like PP. Yes I do mena this one out of all 214 episodes. You know the two things that tip me over the edge are so small as to be almost insignificant but they drive me up the wall.
But I do love how touchy feelly Daniel is with Vala in PP. Daniel doesn't do much touching of people in general but Vala he can't keep his hands off. Yes some of it is to steer her in the right direction but if you watch closely you'll see that practically every time they are standing next to each other he takes the oportunity to touch her.
I love the way that at first Vala annoys Daniel with the way she wants to search the Ancient library but after a while it seems like they work to geather well.
Yeah, I liked Daniel and Vala working as a team. I especially liked how he was curbing some of her less than savory instincts to steal (the cute little scene where they're walking, talking to Weir, and Vala tries to steal something...Daniel doesn't even stop walking, he just grabs her arm and drags her along. He doesn't even have to look at her, he just knows what she's doing ). They also did seem to be working nicely as a team when they were in the holo room....and of course, the lovely balcony scene. I still want to see the Vala/Sheppard flirting....and Daniel reacting to it. If Daniel reacted in any way similar to how MS & BB did when they were filming it, I think it would be pretty funny.
-Stef
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Originally posted by djay View PostJust saw the cover art for Stargate Atlantis season 3:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...tl_s3set_l.jpg
WTF?? They can fit five characters on Atlantis but not on SG1 with Vala included?!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Not happy.
-Stef
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