As to Teal'c, Sam/Jack is his only real window of how romantic relationships work here on Earth. It is entirely probable he assumed a)Pete (and whoever Jack might or might not have hooked up with) would only last a short period of time and they'd figure it out. Or b)he was not privy to some reason for one/both of them to give up and move on. He recognizes that both are private people and would not pry.
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Yeah the regulations, I know. But I was trying to look through Teal'cs eyes. He's aware of the regulations too, but also the Jaffa ways are different, more straightforward. He's been their sentinel and quiet observer since they admitted their feelings. All those long years neither of them started anything with anyone else. And now, all of a sudden, Sam is dating Pete, a total stranger, just after she got back with the Prometheus. Wouldn't Teal'c be wondering why has Jack become unworthy?
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Originally posted by Everlovin View PostAs to Teal'c, Sam/Jack is his only real window of how romantic relationships work here on Earth. It is entirely probable he assumed a)Pete (and whoever Jack might or might not have hooked up with) would only last a short period of time and they'd figure it out. Or b)he was not privy to some reason for one/both of them to give up and move on. He recognizes that both are private people and would not pry.
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Originally posted by bluebari View PostThe b) part. I see a contradiction here. The locker room comforting scenes show his interest in his friends' happines, so I would expect that he would be worried that something went wrong when Pete shows up.
Ex, after Grace: Sam asks off. And on some whim she tells him how Jack responded to her calling Jack "Jack". How she thought he was affronted by it. (Maybe how she sees it) and is wondering if she should move on. Teal'c then offers advice and encouragement. But wouldn't until needed.sigpic
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Originally posted by Everlovin View PostCould I talk someone into making me a sig/avi? Something Sam/Jack happy shippy with penguins? I'm in a nostalgic mood and I have no gimp capabilities.sigpic
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Originally posted by ReganX View PostI've been thinking about There But For the Grace of God, ...I'd love to know what others think happened.
I personally believe that after the events of Threads...after watching Sam watch her father die...after almost losing the battle for Earth entirely...Jack took her to the cabin, and before leaving the SGC, he sent a letter to Hammond (his direct commander) that stated his intention to retire. I think he was willing to go that far -let Sam keep fighting the fight and stepping back to make it possible for them to be together.
My personal head canon is that President Hayes had a fit and refused to accept his resignation and asked Hammond what incentives needed to be offered to change Jack's mind. I've always like Hayes, honestly. I believe he would have fast-tracked their transfers to let them keep their honor and have their relationship.
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Hey. I'm new here, but I wanted to thank you all for these threads, discovered while searching for a few images of Sam/Jack on the web. I have only been reading a few (hundred) pages, but I'm so glad I found people as addicted to angst, hands brushing etc. as I am. I'm rewatching SG1 (currently series 5, but I have to stop sometimes, to do things like work...go figure), and love to pick up on everything ship- and fishing-related.
Also, thank you for Sam's hairstyle theory; I had never thought of that and I love it. I've also discovered a few videos and fanfics, and am currently reading...I mean devouring the Campfire stories.
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Originally posted by Elwenn View PostHey. I'm new here, but I wanted to thank you all for these threads, discovered while searching for a few images of Sam/Jack on the web. I have only been reading a few (hundred) pages, but I'm so glad I found people as addicted to angst, hands brushing etc. as I am. I'm rewatching SG1 (currently series 5, but I have to stop sometimes, to do things like work...go figure), and love to pick up on everything ship- and fishing-related.
Also, thank you for Sam's hairstyle theory; I had never thought of that and I love it. I've also discovered a few videos and fanfics, and am currently reading...I mean devouring the Campfire stories.
Here is a post <--click that I made many moons ago, attempting to list links to all threads discussing Sam and Jack. I see that it is very outdated so I will work on a new post ASAP.
Scroll down to my next post which is the updated list. Enjoy.
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This is a list of the threads here at GW about Sam and Jack. These are just the ones I'm keeping track of. There are more out there but they don't have any unique info. In other words, someone started the thread and then was redirected to an existing one.
If you know of a thread that I've missed, by all means add it to this list. But please let me know via PM if you do because I keep this post as a text file offline so I can repost it occasionally and I'll want to add it there.
OPEN THREADS
Note: Some of these threads appear to have been abandoned.
Discussion- Sam Carter /Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread 2.0 (You are here!)
- Sam Carter/Jack O'Neill Ship Discussion Thread (This is for indepth discussions that sometimes include not-so-shippers. Cool, eh?)
- Skydiver's thoughts about Sam and Jack in the third movie (spec and spoilers)
- Continuum for S/J shippers
Fun and Games
Art and Fic- The secrets on how to make artwork of the Sam/Jack ship family thread
- Jack/Sam Fic Recs
- Master Fanfiction List
- Penguin Fanfic Club
CLOSED THREADS
FYI, you can subscribe to a thread even if it's closed.
Note: If you see something in any of these threads that you would like to discuss, by all means bring it up over here. Or, if you want to get some not-so-shipper feedback, post about it on the Discussion thread. You can always copy the link (upper-right corner of each post) if needed for clarity.
Discussion- Jack and Sam? Season 9 transition?
- Jack and Sam: A question (Spoilers for S7 Fragile Balance)
- Jack/Sam development
- Sam Carter/Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread
- Best Of... Sam'n'Jack shippy eps
- The Sam & Jack Shippers' Archive
- The Sam/Jack Shipper Discussion Thread X
Fun and Games- 500 Touches of Sam and Jack Unfortunately, many of the picture links are gone because of the change Photobucket made.
- 500 Looks Between Jack & Sam Unfortunately, many of the picture links are gone because of the change Photobucket made.
- 500 More Looks Between Jack & Sam Unfortunately, many of the picture links are gone because of the change Photobucket made.
- Favourite Sam/Jack episode
Valenship Sometime around February 14th.- 2006 The O'Neills' First Valentines (celebrated directly in the Ship Appreciation Thread)
- 2007 Valenship 2007 (celebrated directly in the Ship Appreciation Thread)
- 2008 Valenship 2008: A Sam/Jack Holiday Celebration
- 2009 Valenship 2009: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2010 Valenship 2010: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2011 Valenship 2011: A Jack & Sam Celebration
- 2012 Valenship: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2013 Valenship 2013: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2014 Valenship 2014: A Sam/Jack Celebration
- 2015 Valenship 2015 - A Celebration of Sam and Jack!
- 2016 Valenship 2016
Ship Day Always on July 28th.- 2004 2nd ANNUAL CELEBRATION! IT'S SHIP DAY JULY 28TH
- 2005 Third Annual Sam/Jack Ship Day
- 2006 Fourth Annual Sam/Jack Ship Day Thread
- 2007 5th Annual Sam/Jack Ship Day
- 2008 Sam/Jack Annual Ship Day - 2008
- 2009 2009 Sam/Jack Ship Day Celebration
- 2010 2010 Sam/Jack Ship Day Celebration
- 2011 2011 Sam/Jack Ship Day - Ninth Annual Celebration!
- 2012 Ship Day 2012: Tenth Annual Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2013 Ship Day 2013: Eleventh Annual Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2014 Ship Day 2014: Twelfth Annual Sam/Jack Celebration
- 2015 Ship Day 2015: Thirteenth Annual Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2016 Ship Day 2016: Fourteenth Annual Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2017 Ship Day 2017: Fifteenth Annual Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2018 Ship Day 2018: Sixteenth Annual Sam/Jack Celebration!
Shipsgiving Sometime around the fourth Thursday in November.- 2008 S/J Shipsgiving 2008
- 2009 Shipsgiving 2009: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2010 Shipsgiving 2010: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2011 Shipsgiving 2011: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2012 Shipsgiving 2012: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2013 Shipsgiving 2013: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2014 Shipsgiving 2014 : A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2015 Sam/Jack Shipsgiving Thread 2015
Shipmas Sometime around December 25th.- 2007 Shipmas 2007: A Sam/Jack Holiday Celebration
- 2008 Shipmas 2008: A Sam/Jack Holiday Celebration
- 2009 Shipmas 2009: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2010 Shipmas 2010: A Jack/Sam Celebration
- 2011 Shipmas 2011: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2012 Shipmas 2012: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2013 Shipmas 2012: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2014 Shipmas 2014: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2015 Shipmas 2015: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2016 Shipmas 2016: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2017 Shipmas 2017: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
- 2018 Shipmas 2018: A Sam/Jack Celebration!
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And if you want to go WAAAAY back in time, there's this list of discussion threads from before Gateworld.net was created. I posted this list the day after Ship Day 2014.
Originally posted by UhSir View PostWhile searching for the 1st Ship Day discussion, which I could not find, I found more S/J threads and added them below, marked with a plus sign (+). This list is not every thread. The search function is useless because it only looks back 3 months. So scrolling was my only option. I looked through the entire General Discussion section and poked around Off Topic Chatter and Season Four. My eyes are currently refusing to uncross. Hopefully I'm posting this into the shipper appreciation thread!
As for the 1st Ship Day discussion... I looked at threads with last posts around July 28, 2003 but did not find any with titles hinting at Ship Day. And if the thread was never closed then *shrugs* it could be anywhere in the stack. Maybe one of the shippers who was at that party can help pinpoint it?
Sam/Jack threads at the GateWorld Forums on DelphiForums
Some of these listed are multi-ship and will indicate such in the first post. The list is in order by create date, oldest first.
WARNING: Many of these threads have a mixing of "positive" and "negative" Shippers, except those indicated as "ship friendly" in the first post.
The Big Question: Sam & Jack
+ Shippers 'Beneath the Surface'?
+ Sam loves Jack...Jack hates Sam???
+ SHIP 'O' METER!
+ Ship Happens: Long Live Ship!
+ Ship Happens: Two (or is that too?)
Sam and Jack - How will it end?
+ Jack and Sam - why they do/don't work
+ Ship Ahoy
+ FIND THE SHIP
+ Does Sam love Jack?.......
+ How much ship at the end would u accept?
+ Jack's feelings for Sam
Sam+Jack = Romance???
need (shippy) feedback =)
Top Ten Jack/Sam ship episodes/scenes
+ Has the "ship" sank?
Jack&Sam Ship Theory
Question about Sam/Jack relationship
What Makes A Relationship Work?
+ Season Seven Kiss?
+ Why Jack Should Forget Sam And Move On
Jack/Sam: some kissing thing
+ another one about S/J ... QUESTIONS!?
Ship o'hoy-thread
Fishing?
One Question for the SJ shippers
The Shipper thread
+ Let's vote on shipperness
Jack & Sam: Love or Lust?
"Ship" arguments
+ Headcount please! Jack/Sam or Sam/Tealc?
+ **Rules** of Ship
jack and sam will they ever get together
Shippy moments and Non shippy
+ Season 7 Commercial Spoilers
The Shipper Thread II
+ Nonship view on questionable S7 spoilers
+ Was there ship in Grace?
+ Jack's Ideal Woman
A S/J Shippy way to end the series
Season Eight Sam and Jack
Sam and Jack Wedding
+ Sam and Agent Barrett
Ship Discussion Thread
Favourite S/J Shippy Episodes
+ Ages of characters, esp. Jack and Sam
+ Best Episode for Ship Each Season
Sam and Jack after marriage...
+ Who do you 'ship' for?!?!
The S/J Shipper Thread III
+ One "shippy" complaint
No men (or women) for Sam
The S/J Shipper Thread IV
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Originally posted by bluebari View PostI've been thinking quite a lot about the role of Teal'c in Sam/Jack relationship recently, in particular regarding the Pete thing. Leaving some of my thoughts here.
There are these two parallel locker room scenes, one where T comforts Sam when Jack is lost in Paradise Lost, and the other one where T sort of tries to comfort Jack when Sam is lost in Grace. Both scenes show T is well aware of the feelings the two of his team mates have for each other. Which brings about an obvious question, how the heck can T ever allow the Pete thing to happen???
I understand that he wouldn't want to interfere, as he has high respect for both Jack and Sam. But still, he must be wondering what happened, specifically, what did Jack do? In the eyes of T they both are formidable warriors who hold each other in highest regard. Which means that Jack must have done something terribly wrong that made Sam lose some of the respect and turn away from Jack?
If T believes that this is what happened, it would certainly unsettle him. He would feel the need to find out what went wrong. Certainly the idea of Sam no more holding their commander in highest regard would be of concern for T. He wouldn't go and ask Sam directly, but he may try to interrogate Jack?
No such thing happens though, and Sam continues to date Pete, gets engaged to him and almost marries him. In my view it means that Teal'c, who has witnessed the long evolution of their relationship, ultimately fails them as their friend. I do not blame him, it just doesn't feel right. Maybe he was distracted too much by his own new relationship with Ishta?
I don't think Teal'c would default to thinking that Jack did something wrong.
As for "letting the Pete thing happen," Sam did a pretty good job of hiding that relationship. Everyone was probably just too shocked by her saying she was serious about him to argue with her.sigpic
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Originally posted by Lady eliza View PostI just had a thought on how to do the Force field scene differently.sigpic
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