Sam Carter /Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread 2.0

[Sparky She-Demon]

I was denied as well. My eyes are in as good of shape as they ever were.

[RamonaThePest]

I can't stand knowing this alone!

Are you guys outside of the U.S maybe? Can USAers let me know if you can see this atrocity assaulting my eyes masquerading as S/J?

[hedwig]

I can't stand knowing this alone!

Are you guys outside of the U.S maybe? Can USAers let me know if you can see this atrocity assaulting my eyes masquerading as S/J?

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...a2a64e3949.jpg

Looks like Sean Penn and an actress whose name I know, but can't think of right now?

What is this from? Doesn't look anything like Sam or Jack.

[Sparky She-Demon]

I'm in the US. Yeah that's a sight to see, *shudders*, but where did you find that Ramona?

[RamonaThePest]

Looks like Sean Penn and an actress whose name I know, but can't think of right now?

What is this from? Doesn't look anything like Sam or Jack.

I didn't recognize Sean Penn but that is the actress from Fargo and Burn After Reading. I love her. The image caught my eye because of the ivory robes and the position in which they're standing. Other than that - no, they don't look anything like them but it was an assault on my eyes when, after the ivory catching my eye, it turned out to be THIS! (It's a joke cause I think i'm funny even if nobody else laughs. lol)

[RamonaThePest]

I'm in the US. Yeah that's a sight to see, *shudders*, but where did you find that Ramona?

It was on IMDB.com but I don't recall what movie. Sorry.

[iiradned]

I can't stand knowing this alone!

Are you guys outside of the U.S maybe? Can USAers let me know if you can see this atrocity assaulting my eyes masquerading as S/J?

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...a2a64e3949.jpg

Looks like Sean Penn and an actress whose name I know, but can't think of right now?

What is this from? Doesn't look anything like Sam or Jack.

I didn't recognize Sean Penn but that is the actress from Fargo and Burn After Reading. I love her. The image caught my eye because of the ivory robes and the position in which they're standing. Other than that - no, they don't look anything like them but it was an assault on my eyes when, after the ivory catching my eye, it turned out to be THIS! (It's a joke cause I think i'm funny even if nobody else laughs. lol)

The lady is Frances McDormand who won the Oscar for Lead Actress for Fargo which was directed by her husband Joel, one-half of the writing-producing-directing team the Coen Brothers.

[majorsal]

i've started 'city of the gods' novel today.

[Sparky She-Demon]

Are the novels any good?

[neverendingimagination]

The lady is Frances McDormand who won the Oscar for Lead Actress for Fargo which was directed by her husband Joel, one-half of the writing-producing-directing team the Coen Brothers.

I recognized her as the nun from Madeline - thanks for telling us her name

[Sparky She-Demon]

I loved her in that!

[Jacquelyn]

Hey guys. Long time no see!
Just wanting to know what S/J discussions were in here.

Oh and I was thinking.. Since I haven't made anything of them in awhile, I was gonna try and make some graphic or some gifs or something.

[majorsal]

Are the novels any good?

i've read 8 so far (just started the 9th), and so far, i love them!!

they're not shippy to the level i want (like what our great shippy authors do), but at the level of an ep. though the sga legacy books were *very* much showing them IN a relationship!!

[Sparky She-Demon]

I haven't heard too many good things about the SGA legacy books. Then again, that's on the Sparky thread, and I do have three of my own.

[Starship Trooper]

Jack & Sam & Stargate musings... My first post on the forum. Go easy on me.

I never caught even a single episode of Stargate when it was on air. I guess I was just distracted by other programmes/things. Not too long ago, MacGyver popped up on Netflix. I remembered being utterly smitten with Richard Dean Anderson as very, very, young child. The whole family would gather around on Friday nights to watch it as it aired in South Africa. My brother and I were so obsessed we had our own MacGyver club. We would create obstacle courses for the kids in the neighbourhood and I'd hand-draw each membership certificate we handed out. I don't know whether it was just nostalgia or curiosity, but I couldn't resist re-watching every single episode and was amazed at how much of it I actually remembered. After watching him ride off into the distance on his motorbike and thank the audience as the final episode of MacGyver drew to a close, I just didn't feel ready to say goodbye to Mr Anderson. So Stargate SG-1 it was.

After consulting with a few reputable sources about whether or not it was worth watching, I was very kindly lent the complete collection – seasons one through ten. I've recently finished season ten and am now re-watching some of the episodes I really loved from earlier seasons. For the last few weeks, I've had these thoughts going round and round in my head as I've been obsessively devouring each episode and really want to find an outlet for them. I think this forum is probably the right place, but I feel a bit cheeky launching into a 'postal' (post all? get it?? nudge, nudge) essay right off the bat. Oh well, feel free to ignore me or move/delete post as required!

So... Jack and Sam... Never, in all my life, have I been SO involved in a television series relationship! I didn't even know what 'shipping' was until last week. But THIS... It's the kind of magic that you can't put down to any one thing. It's this beautiful combination of on-screen chemistry, subtle acting, directing, and clever writing. It's possibly the kind of thing that you can't recreate either. I am loving re-watching episodes and scrutinising each scene for the little signs... the meaningful looks, the body language, the growing familiarity, and the reactions when one of them does or says something to surprise the other – good or bad. It's most likely also the greatest source of FRUSTRATION I've ever had the pleasure, or perhaps pain, of witnessing in a television series! Just... D'OH!

I understand from a writing point of view that it is always a mistake to put your two leads together. The 'are they aren't they' draw makes for excellent television and I can list a number of shows that suffered greatly after the writers finally decided to put the characters together. I definitely think it wouldn't have been realistic to put Jack and Sam together until the series was drawing to an end, but I do think it was a terrible mistake to leave it as open as they did. It feels as though there is no certainty about the future of, or closure for, the characters you've come to know and love. What would've kept these two lovers apart for the rest of their lives? And I say 'lovers' because the deep, emotional, love affair going on between them is unmistakable. They don't seem to take a single action without considering the thoughts or feelings of the other – even if they don't always agree. Will these two exceptional and self-sacrificing individuals part ways, or end up with other people? It seems unthinkable, but we'll never know. It's like having the last page and a half, the final chapter, of The Time Traveler's Wife just ripped out, gone, and that's how it's presented to you. Even though the final chapter doesn't tie the book up in a neat, little, happy, bundle, the book is incomplete without it. Without closure.

Jack and Sam's relationship makes me equally happy and sad. I wonder how they felt continuously being presented with versions of themselves from different universes and timelines – very different versions, but always together. It must've been absolute torture for them! Despite the torture though, I can't help myself. I love these two and I love watching them together.

Anyway, I have loads more to write but that can wait for another evening. Thanks for suffering this lengthy post if you read all the way through.