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*falls off chair*......you're really enjoying this aren't you?......
Oh and just to be on-topic....Sam'n'Jack - nope still not won over....and won't ever be!....
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*falls off chair*......you're really enjoying this aren't you?......
Oh and just to be on-topic....Sam'n'Jack - nope still not won over....and won't ever be!....
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You know me and LOL cats!Originally posted by discodiva View Post*falls off chair*......you're really enjoying this aren't you?......
Oh and just to be on-topic....Sam'n'Jack - nope still not won over....and won't ever be!....
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Working my way through the disc Crystal Skull is on. Watched New Ground--absolutely no ship. Happy sigh.Comment
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I love that disc. It's a nice ship-free set of episodes. *echoes jckfan's happy sigh* I've always liked New Ground. I'm not quite sure why, it's just a nice, interesting episode for me. Oh, how I love season 3.Originally posted by jckfan55 View PostChief of the GGP (Gateworld Grammar Police). Punctuation is your friend. Use it!
Great happy armies shall be gathered and trained to oppose all who embrace doubt. In the name of Hope, ships shall be built to carry our disciples out amongst the stars, and we will spread Optimism to all the doubters. The power of the Optimi will be felt far and wide, and the pessimists shall become positive-thinkers.
Hallowed are the Optimi.
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Originally posted by jckfan55 View PostI so need to do a re-watch, I started one last year, got part way through season two and stopped.Originally posted by Khentkawes View Post
I watch more when I'm making stock; I do pyrography and sell it at conventions and can spend a happy afternoon on the sofa burning dragons into wood and watching DVD's. But I've stopped taking stock to Eastercon/Novacon, the two big SF cons in the UK year; I can make as much, if not more, in the art show without the hassle of being stuck behind a table.
I always liked New Ground, another stormingly good team episode (and I adored Nyan, who never showed up again on the show, despite being displaced to Earth, but turns up in fanfic all the time).
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Oh, you know I'd never really noticed before but you are SO right. That's a great run of eps, with the bonus of no ship. Yay!Originally posted by Khentkawes View Post
A Hundred Days: Love stranded stories; Jack/Laira was OK; team (TEAM!!!!) working hard to bring him home. Had to squint at the Janet and Sam scene in the lab, but I could easily read that as concern for a missing friend rather than, you know, pining.
Shades of Grey: Lots of Jack, fantastic Jack and Daniel, friendship, drawing straws, solid foundation, a damn good story and premise ...
New Ground: Love this one, for reasons I can't quite articulate. And there's Nyan. I wish he'd been allowed out of his cupboard at the SGC. He could have been a great recurring character.
Maternal Instinct: DAAAAAAANIEL! Oma, Jack and Daniel, Daniel, Oma, the baby, the baby clinging to Daniel, ascension, monks, candlelight and cooking. Did I mention Daniel???
Lovely viewing.
I might just re-watch this little bundle of ship-free joy.
NO SHIP!!! (that makes me capslock a lot).
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And Crystal Skull......"Don't be an ass Jack!"......*giggles*...
Ah Season 3.......FIAD and THAT hug!!......oh how they all supported one another then...
......and how, or more importantly why, did it all change for the worse?......
Don't answer that last one - we all know why.......
NO SHIP - yeah you're right....instant capslock!.....
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Doesn't Jack carry Sam in Crystal Skull?
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He does, but he doesn't stand there for 20 minutes looking like he's swallowed a wasp, sorry I meant to say - angsting over how it's his twu wuv who's lying there, her face white as porcelain, her hair a golden aura... Excuse me, I've made myself quite ill!Originally posted by silly sally View PostDoesn't Jack carry Sam in Crystal Skull?
He just gets on and does it, as he would for any soldier under his command.
And therein lies the difference.
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Been thinking (while buttering bread for tea).
Thinking about the juvenile behaviour of both Jack and Sam.
They don't seem to derive much joy from each others company. Jack, in particular, only seems to be hurt by it, remember I asked if he ever looked at Sam open and happy? If he ever really smiled at her (as opposed to smirking)?
More accurately, they are fine when it's just friendship, it's whenever the dreadful attempts at pushing that friendship into something it wasn't meant to be, the happiness evaporates and it's all Drama with a capital 'D'.
Love is supposed to bring you joy, not make you look like you have indigestion. When other people are about, when they are just acting like teammates, it's natural and friendly and everything you would expect. It's when 'feeling feeeeeeelings' comes to the fore that it all goes so horribly wrong.
I've seen this sort of behaviour before, when I was about 18 and in a painful, angst filled love triangle at collage. But I grew out of it and I would have hoped that a colonel/general in his fifties and a captain/colonel in her 40's would have grown out of that stage too? Sigh, it's not the characters, it's the writers I should be asking this of.
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I'll try and get back to you when I'm not such a quivering heap, having just watched "Abyss".....now there's raw emotion for ya!.....
Stunning stuff......RDA and MS at their very, very best......not a dry eye in the house!....I can't really think about ship after having seen that amazing episode.....*sighs contentedly*
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Oh yeah, RDA acting up a storm.Originally posted by discodiva View PostI'll try and get back to you when I'm not such a quivering heap, having just watched "Abyss".....now there's raw emotion for ya!.....
Stunning stuff......RDA and MS at their very, very best......not a dry eye in the house!....I can't really think about ship after having seen that amazing episode.....*sighs contentedly*
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So why do we never see even a fraction of this when he's doing the 'Romancing Sam' thing? I've heard of 'pent up emotions' but pent up to the point where you look like you'd rather be shot at dawn rather than show any real emotion? Bizarre.
I could understand it as an acting choice sometimes, but it seems to be the default whenever they are supposed to be focusing on the 'relationship', there's no joy, no gentle smiles or pleasure in her company to balance it out. We sometimes got it in friendship scenes, but when the relationship reared it's ugly head, nope, it's all cow eyes acting from Amanda and swallowed something bad from RDA
You can't base a relationship on making cow eyes or being all manly and stoic, it's why some fans can complain that it's all in Sam's head. Not what the writers intended but I can see where they are coming from, even if I don't think they are correct.
Sometimes I think that the writers need to go back and study Relationships for Beginners, such simple concepts as mutual attraction, equality and, er, love. We shouldn't be able to have such conversations about Sam and Jack, the fact we all find it so unconvincing says a lot.
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LOL. Right. he's the closest to her so he carries her out. If Teal'c had been standing there, he would have.Originally posted by Frostfox View PostHe does, but he doesn't stand there for 20 minutes looking like he's swallowed a wasp, sorry I meant to say - angsting over how it's his twu wuv who's lying there, her face white as porcelain, her hair a golden aura... Excuse me, I've made myself quite ill!
He just gets on and does it, as he would for any soldier under his command.
And therein lies the difference.
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Ah, but if Teal'c had carried her, it would have been one comrade helping another, when Jack does it it must Mean Something, according to TPTB.Originally posted by jckfan55 View Post
Though, in Crystal Skull, it doesn't. It's one comrade helping another. Teal'c or Daniel would have carried her, she would have helped any of the boys. Which is why it doesn't put our teeth on edge.
Remember, Replicarter can shoot her dear friend Daniel without a hesitation but hesitates when it comes to Sir because of The Love Which Eclipses All. Including TEAM.
And they wonder why we don't like it!
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