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Ok for everyone who wanted to know Amanda's exact words regarding the 200th episode and S/J:
Spoiler:
AT: We answer all the fan questions like are Sam & Jack ever going to get together and we answer it for both sides. Both sides of the argument are going to be happy. Kinda.
Audience: No. Impossible.
AT: *shrugs* Least you'll have a good laugh. And we had the most fun any of us have ever had filming an episode...filming the 200th. It was very cool. So. (jokingly with an accent) I've said too much. Next question. I'm going to get fired now.
I see there has been a lot of discussion on the leadership issue and season 9 and 10. A lot of great comment and interesting discussion!
There is no doubt about it the people who brought on board CB and BB in their current character guise have made a bit of a howler (IMO). I sort of think that Cooper was thinking about creating his new show when he signed them both.
The signing of both these stars together to me smacks of relying on the actors to make a show rather than creative writing and great acting. It would have made more sense to have one or the other, but 2 direct from Farscape smacks of grabbing in a desperate plea to make something a success.
Anyway grab for BB got BB now write a character for him – the lead character as well. It seems that was probably decided way back in season 8 – (that Sam wouldn’t lead when RDA finally left).
That was the big mistake. Grab and actor then quickly write a character – for an ongoing SG1 series. They have failed to create a lead character that fits the actor or fits the show (IMO) they had to make him a super hero – to account for the fact that he would lead the team above Sam. But BB is not RDA – How do you follow the character of O’Neill – make him the same (the best leader in SGC worthy of leading SG1), but different enough to make it interesting – that is what they have struggled with and where they have failed. It would have been far easier to write a new part – such as a new member of SG1 – the character could then have been so many things – a clown, brave, snarky, a renegade, a loner, an expert – he could have had so many edges to shape into the show and to round over time – and to jazz the audience. Oh but that would have left a female in charge – couldn’t have that now could we!!
The character Mitchell is a huge disappointment to me. He is just a nothing – So far.
To add to the “hero” status he suddenly in one episode acquired specialist fighting skills, skills which took Teal’c the best part of his long life to acquire – a bit too convenient if you ask me and a bit too teenage boyish for me to take an interest. The one liners on the whole are also going down a more immature route.
For me it would have been better for Mitchell to be totally the other way. Very serious, very precise, very focused and very strict. (But not unlikable). That way they could have shown him easing up over time – and Sam being surprised that there was someone in the SGC more serious about the job than her.
The same is true of Claudia. I think they rushed into the Vala character eyes wide shut. They will struggle getting her to fit into the team how she was portrayed in season 9 - unless they want to make a complete ass out of Stargate Command – and the US Air Force for that matter. But if they change her too much, perhaps the new fanboys who like to turn on the telly and see sci fi mixed with cleavage will turn to another show – they really have captured the fickle market with Mitchell and Vala.
They have also thus backed themselves into a corner with Sam. They knew how to write an SG1 ep with the big 3 and a strong Carter. But now there is Mitchell – who is the lead, plus Beau B and other characters to bring into the mix. I just don’t think they know how to write Sam into the shows anymore. Maybe that is what they meant when they said we don’t know what to do with Sam. How do you write for her not being a big part of the show? They have really upset the apple cart!!
It is sad, but it is done. Maybe they will make a better job of things in season 10. But hearing that there is not too much “team” in the new series already leaves me totally disinterested and even more unwilling to pick up my season 9 eps and finish watching them!
The writers should have sat down and thought about potential characters for a long time before they made any changes and introduced new lead characters. Then cast for the appropriate actor. You never know – they may have got a bigger name than BB interested.
For me SG1 is ruined – totally ruined and I haven’t enjoyed the season 9 eps I have watched. Others will like it – and that is fine by me. It just isn’t the sort of show I’m interested in.
A great post, Coley! I think many of us feel the same way but probably to no avail. Now that I'm moving, I probably won't have cable sci-fi telly and I won't be missing anything. Really. Quite sad.
amanda calls them boyfriends. every one of them.
sally
She may, but I still don't agree with her either. We obviously just have very different views of a boyfriend. I hugged Carmen this past weekend and I really think he's cute. Guess that makes him my boyfriend now.
Ok for everyone who wanted to know Amanda's exact words regarding the 200th episode and S/J:
Spoiler:
AT: We answer all the fan questions like are Sam & Jack ever going to get together and we answer it for both sides. Both sides of the argument are going to be happy. Kinda.
Audience: No. Impossible.
AT: *shrugs* Least you'll have a good laugh. And we had the most fun any of us have ever had filming an episode...filming the 200th. It was very cool. So. (jokingly with an accent) I've said too much. Next question. I'm going to get fired now.
hhhmmm,
Spoiler:
trying to please both sides never works out.
does anyone else think they're going to go with "well we tried but now we're just friends"? and would the non shippers out there be happy with that? (i think we all know the shippers wouldn't be happy)
i find that generally when TPTB think they've pleased everyone, often they've pleased no one.
She may, but I still don't agree with her either. We obviously just have very different views of a boyfriend. I hugged Carmen this past weekend and I really think he's cute. Guess that makes him my boyfriend now.
ok i think that makes me a tramp. i was going to go with a more severe word.
people hug me all the time, and i think lots of people are cute.
She may, but I still don't agree with her either. We obviously just have very different views of a boyfriend. I hugged Carmen this past weekend and I really think he's cute. Guess that makes him my boyfriend now.
Wow...so does the hubster know about your new man?
*quirks eyebrow suspiciously*
...You're ALWAYS Welcome in Samanda: Amanda's Community of New Fans and Old Friends...
She may, but I still don't agree with her either. We obviously just have very different views of a boyfriend. I hugged Carmen this past weekend and I really think he's cute. Guess that makes him my boyfriend now.
i've never agreed with it either. sam has -in this reality- had only one boyfriend (that was seen in present time), and that was pete.
a friend of mine asked me if amanda was going to be at any other cons, besides gabit2 and avalon. does anyone know?
i'm looking forward to seeing amanda tomorrow night. not so much stargate sg1, but sam/amanda. shore leave (and amanda's answers) have put a damper on what was some real excitement for s10. i had three things i was looking forward to (sam/command issue being nice to sam, s/j ship <actually going somewhere>, and sam-daniel-teal'c being highlighted)... i think amanda pretty much let us know how those things are going to go.
Wow...so does the hubster know about your new man?
*quirks eyebrow suspiciously*
My husband realized he was second fiddle the moment he saw me swoon over RDA. I'm sure it wouldn't bother him much to know he's actually 3rd on my list now...at least I come home to him after a weekend of drooling at the cons.
My husband realized he was second fiddle the moment he saw me swoon over RDA. I'm sure it wouldn't bother him much to know he's actually 3rd on my list now...at least I come home to him after a weekend of drooling at the cons.
a friend of mine asked me if amanda was going to be at any other cons, besides gabit2 and avalon. does anyone know?
I don't know of any others besides probably Vancouver. She said she hadn't been doing very many cons since Olivia's birth and it sounded like she would continue to limit doing them.
ugh, i need a drink.
Originally posted by stargate barbie
ok, i'm trying to think up new topics so that i stop ranting and then maybe my blood pressure will go down.
It sounds like Cousin SB and Auntie Sallie need to go look at some pretty piccies. Here's some pictures from the Shore Leave convention this past weekend now that I've actually learned how to make a gallery in LJ: http://pics.livejournal.com/shimmeringstar1/
Right now there’s just one gallery – the one pic of a truly gorgeous and generous woman who was gracious enough to let me take a pic of her before she signed my second pic. (And I'd expected just to get a snapshot of her signing it, not a posed pic out of it!!!) ((((Amanda))))
I won't repeat my convo with her while she was signing, but all I can say is Shore Leave was an out of this world experience and I honestly can't wait until GABIT in November.
I hope to size down some of the other pix that I took of her signing autos after mine. There’s one where she’s laughing and imitating a Sam bobblehead doll. Hopefully can get some of the panel pics up there soon too.
NOTE: For those unfamiliar with LiveJournal galleries - after opening a gallery and clicking on a thumbnail, the picture probably still won’t be full-sized, so if you click once on the bigger pic you’ll get the regular sized picture.
*runs away to try to shrink some more pix before bedtime*
Convention Pix Shore Leave ('06 to '09), AT2, AT3, & AT4 ('06, '08, & '09), and Vancouver ('07)
My SG fanfic! ..Click Here.
I just wanted to thank you and all of the other Gateworlders I met at Shore Leave for such a wonderful weekend. As much as I loved seeing Amanda, Carmen and Corin, it was all of you that helped to make my weekend such a blast. Last night while I was unpacking my bags, my daughter walked into the room and shouted "Oh Momma, where did you get that blue Jell-o!!" I have no idea how she even saw the box, but it instantly reminded me of our late nights in the lobby freezing our bums off together.
I've spent the better part of the morning trying to upload Shore Leave photos. I'm about half done, but I'm not sure if I'll have time to do any more this week. Unfortunately some of Amanda's look a bit odd because I was having a difficult time correcting the red-eyes in some of them. Oh well.
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