Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[astrogeologist]

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You're probably right.

SG-1 never needed a new leader-ever. TPTB just wanted to bring in a new leading man because they thought they needed one. What's wrong with a leading woman? They needed a new team member-someone who would benefit the existing team, not an inexperienced, hot-head guy who just gets them into trouble.

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They could have had the new male actor be the New Male Lead without making him the CO of SG-1. They could have had their cake and eaten it to if they'd simply brought him in as Major Mitchell and written him well and solid and heroic. He didn't have to take over the leadership of the team to be the Male Lead Hero. Carter could have stayed in command without being the show's Main Lead.

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Maybe we Samandans should write TPTB. We've got some pretty deep people around here(you know who you are!). We all feel essentially the same way about it. Maybe it's too late for season 10, but if there's more in store, we need to protect SC/AT's place on the team. TPTB need to know what they're doing is NOT acceptable.

Writing is a fine idea, but it can't change much of Season 10 at this point. Most, if not all, of Season 10 is either already filmed, already written and/or already decided.

Spoiler:

whatever they are going to do with the leadership of SG-1, Mitchell's role and Carter's role... it's already done, shot, filmed and 'in the can'.

That said, we can still send in our thoughts and comments to TPTB.

[L.A. Doyle]

Spoiler:

whatever they are going to do with the leadership of SG-1, Mitchell's role and Carter's role... it's already done, shot, filmed and 'in the can'.

Spoiler:

That's true. Too late for this season. *headdesk* I just hate that they don't have a clue what they're doing is just...wrong...

[ReganX]

My guess is

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that Carter is going to 'moved to the side' somehow - they'll write something that puts her in a 'different' position than simply a member of SG-1. Then, whether he gets promoted or not, Mitchell will be in command of SG-1. Landry will point out to Mitchell that he is now in clear command of SG-1 and Mitchell will shrug it off with the comment that Daniel is a civilian and Teal'c is a Jaffa... don't know if he'll mention Vala, but she's not Air Force either.

I think the scene will establish Mitchell as the official CO of SG-1, but it will be tempered a bit by Mitchell acting like it's no big deal, not something he was after, and not something that means much anyway.

What they are going to do with Carter... I haven't got a clue!

Spoiler:

I'd kill to be in charge of writing that episode (and the one after it). Basically, Landry sees that the team dynamics are dysfunctional and decides that the problem is the confusion over leadership, no ship can have two captains, after all. He tells Mitchell that he is going to be moving Sam to head her own team. When Daniel and Teal'c hear this, they immediately ask to be transferred to Sam's new team and Landry agrees.

SG-1 now consists of Mitchell, Vala and two eager newcomers*. SG-Pick-A-Number consists of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c and an empty slot that everyone in the SGC wants to fill.

Mitchell makes a huge mess of "SG-1's" first mission together, charging off into battle and leaving the two newcomers to charge after him. They get shot and mortally wounded as a result. As soon as Mitchell, Vala and the deceased newcomers return to the SGC, a terrified Vala races off to find Sam and begs to be allowed transfer to her team, swearing on her mother's grave that she will refrain from harassing Daniel and making suggestive comments. Sam, being a sweet, compassionate individual, agrees.

Despite the disaster of his last mission, Mitchell is eager to get back to work with a new team... only to find that nobody wants to join and that Landry isn't cruel enough to force them to. He decides to cut his losses and ask if he can join Sam's team. Sam agrees to put him on probation and see if it works out.

As there is no longer anybody on SG-1, SG-Pick-A-Number are renamed SG-1.



*Note: Newcomers will not live long enough to need names.

[L.A. Doyle]

Spoiler:

I'd kill to be in charge of writing that episode (and the one after it). Basically, Landry sees that the team dynamics are dysfunctional and decides that the problem is the confusion over leadership, no ship can have two captains, after all. He tells Mitchell that he is going to be moving Sam to head her own team. When Daniel and Teal'c hear this, they immediately ask to be transferred to Sam's new team and Landry agrees.

SG-1 now consists of Mitchell, Vala and two eager newcomers*. SG-Pick-A-Number consists of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c and an empty slot that everyone in the SGC wants to fill.

Mitchell makes a huge mess of "SG-1's" first mission together, charging off into battle and leaving the two newcomers to charge after him. They get shot and mortally wounded as a result. As soon as Mitchell, Vala and the deceased newcomers return to the SGC, a terrified Vala races off to find Sam and begs to be allowed transfer to her team, swearing on her mother's grave that she will refrain from harassing Daniel and making suggestive comments. Sam, being a sweet, compassionate individual, agrees.

Despite the disaster of his last mission, Mitchell is eager to get back to work with a new team... only to find that nobody wants to join and that Landry isn't cruel enough to force them to. He decides to cut his losses and ask if he can join Sam's team. Sam agrees to put him on probation and see if it works out.

As there is no longer anybody on SG-1, SG-Pick-A-Number are renamed SG-1.



*Note: Newcomers will not live long enough to need names.

So, Regan...heading to Vancouver anytime soon?

[Chelle DB]

Well I think it is normal that he first thought it was a joke actually... I do get the reaction of Pete. I mean it is a big secret the SGC. And when Sam tells it he might of thought it was a joke because they joked around quite a lot. Think about the scene when they are drinking coffee togheter. they were also joking around a bit...So maybe he thought she was doing the same again. And well if they tell you something that big, you are shocked and surprised of it, so maybe it is a normal reaction to joke than. I think if they would tell me that big, I also would have a hard time believing it and I would also make a joke of it.
that isn't to hurt sam's feeling, or to undermine(mocked) her work it is just a normal reaction to something really big he just know.

Yeah...I know what you mean in that regard but even when he met her dad he just seemed to ditzy for me. To me Sam isn't the kind of person who would joke like that...maybe I'm just a wee bit biased..I prefer Jack over any day! Am I being unfair to him? Sorry!

[Chelle DB]

i think, and maybe i'm being too romantic and sappy....jack's a man. he'll take the sex release if he can get it...but i don't see him marrying anyone other than sam. sleep with someone? sure. casual thing? sure. someone to escort to official functions? sure. a committed relationship? no.

he's had the wife and family and i dont' think he wants to start over with anyone but sam.

but i also think that he's not going to 'force himself' on her. she's gotta say 'ok, let's go' before he'll do anything. his ultimate goal is that she be happy. if not with him, then with someone.

he will be there for her, he will do what he can to take care of her, but he lets her set the boundaries

i dont' think he's doing this as some super sort of self sacrifice, i think he's rather insecure about himself. he blames himself for sara and charlie and i think he lacks the confidence to be assertive in that way. i think he'd rather be friends foreverr than lose it. and as long a sam settles for status quo, he will too.

which is why i dont' think he fought for kerry. she offerred, he accepted and they had fun.

Well said...I agree!

[Chelle DB]

I don't think Jack's really got over Sara. I can see him getting back together with her.

What?!! Are you nuts??? No way!!! That's over with...done...finished and gone!!!
You're funny scarimor!!! LOL!!!

[Gate gal]

The whole

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Mitchell in command thing is still bothering me. And the possibility that Mitchell will get promoted... wasn't there talk about a cabin scene with Landry where Mitchell makes a comment about the makeup of SG-1 being such that there aren't (or weren't) military subordinates for him to order around... something about Daniel being a civilian and Teal'c being a Jaffa...? If Mitchell got promoted then Sam would have to call him 'Sir'... gack!

When asked if the leadership issue was going to be resolved in Season 10, didn't AT respond 'yes, there will be a scene with Landry and Mitchell' (or something along those lines)? So if the leadership issue is going to be resolved, and Carter isn't even in the scene...

That's what I'm not looking forward to. Season 9 left me expecting much less than the best. I feel like I'm watching a car wreck on the freeway. Someone might pull their steering wheel over and stomp on the brakes and everyone might be fine... but it sure doesn't look like that's what's going to happen...

I've read everything you guys wrote, and I think you have valid concerns. However, I refuse to think anything but positive thoughts for s10. I am going to try really hard to like the whole team this year. I like all of the actors already, and I think I can make myself suck up that point if it isn't resolved my way. If s 10 isn't as good as I hope, I will move to an AU where Reganx is head writer and I am going to Gammit!

[the dancer of spaz]

So... we're all pretty much in agreement that some sort of "command/leadership" question needs to be asked at SL this weekend, right? OK.

Who's going to be the brave soul?

[Gate gal]

What?!! Are you nuts??? No way!!! That's over with...done...finished and gone!!!
You're funny scarimor!!! LOL!!!

I'm with you. If we were going to see Sarah again it would have already happened. He has moved on, and she probably has a husband and a couple more kids by now.

[Gate gal]

So... we're all pretty much in agreement that some sort of "command/leadership" question needs to be asked at SL this weekend, right? OK.

Who's going to be the brave soul?

That would be nice, and we need one of our own with a lap top sending us spoilers during the conference.

[ReganX]

So... we're all pretty much in agreement that some sort of "command/leadership" question needs to be asked at SL this weekend, right? OK.

Who's going to be the brave soul?

Who's going to be there from the show? I'd be interested in hearing what the official excuse for bringing Mitchell in as leader and for keeping him as leader after Sam returned is.

[L.A. Doyle]

Who's going to be there from the show? I'd be interested in hearing what the official excuse for bringing Mitchell in as leader and for keeping him as leader after Sam returned is.

What I really wish is that a PTB would be at a con and have someone directly ask them what exactly they were thinking.

[ReganX]

What I really wish is that a PTB would be at a con and have someone directly ask them what exactly they were thinking.

Or to ask one, off the record, if they would have done the same with hindsight.

[the dancer of spaz]

Who's going to be there from the show? I'd be interested in hearing what the official excuse for bringing Mitchell in as leader and for keeping him as leader after Sam returned is.

Amanda Tapping will be the only current cast member present, and Carmen Argenziano and Corin Nemec will be there as well. If someone has the guts to do it (and I have no doubt in my mind that someone will), it should be pretty interesting...