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**ReganX** · 04 May 2006, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by scifi_girl

awwwwww, why not?????

i think she should. ah well a girl can dream cant she

but i guess your right seeing as he is the hewo. im suprised, seeing that we didnt have him around, that the goauld didnt manage to take over the world

One look at Mitchell and they'd have had to abandon the idea of using humans as hosts and then destroy Earth on principle.

**scifi_girl** · 04 May 2006, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by ReganX

One look at Mitchell and they'd have had to abandon the idea of using humans as hosts and then destroy Earth on principle.

roflmao

first part would have been good-getting them to abandon idea of using human hosts, then he would be useful for something

**ReganX** · 04 May 2006, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by scifi_girl

roflmao

first part would have been good-getting them to abandon idea of using human hosts, then he would be useful for something

A refreshing change, to say the least.

**scifi_girl** · 04 May 2006, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by ReganX

A refreshing change, to say the least.

yeah it would have been. but the goauld are gone, and with him the way he is

.

thank goodness we have sam to see us through. well what little screen time she gets, but u know what i mean right? or have i confused everyone else along with confusing myself

i think i need some coffee

scifi_girl

**ReganX** · 04 May 2006, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by scifi_girl

thank goodness we have sam to see us through. well what little screen time she gets, but u know what i mean right?

I know that I'd rather have one Sam episode than twenty Mitchell or Vala episodes

**scifi_girl** · 04 May 2006, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by ReganX

I know that I'd rather have one Sam episode than twenty Mitchell or Vala episodes

same here. maybe we'll get a sam episode in season 10

**ReganX** · 04 May 2006, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by scifi_girl

same here. maybe we'll get a sam episode in season 10

Hopefully. Don't bet the farm on it, though.

**Mickey23** · 04 May 2006, 11:26 AM

Hey all.
I know I posted before I officially said Hello.
Anyway, hello. Just checking out this thread and have to say I love it. I'm trying to read all the back posts, but as of now, I'm about 8% done. Lots of reading ahead of me!

Thanks for this great place to talk about Sam and Amanda!

**Skydiver** · 04 May 2006, 12:43 PM

welcome mickey

**1speed4Sam** · 04 May 2006, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Skydiver

they should be. sexism very much exists. so does the glass ceiling. i had a boss that would deliberately pay his male employees more because 'they were supporting families' and since i was a single female i deserved to be paid less, since i was only supporting me

i watch incompetant males with the right friends rise in the ranks while the females - and other males to be truthful - get left behind or are put in the position to support said incompetant male, doing all his work while he gets the glory...and nice paycheck

the boys at bridge deliberatly or unconsciously support sexism by how they've written sam the past few years, by how they've written vala and by how they promote cam

chauvenism is rife at bridge studios, and what's even worse is that so few can or will see it and just accept it as 'normal'

attitudes like that are why the girls growing up today will still be paid less to work harder and held to sexist double standards

Sam, as she was written seasons 1-6, was the opposite of the male sexist dieal. she was independant, intelligent and smart. she didn't trade her body or get wehre she was through trickery or friends or favors. she EARNED her position and the respect she had.

but sam is just what the chauvenists are afraid of showing, that women can and are equals to men in many ways. they dont' want that idea to get out there...more competition for them. Rather it's easier - and funner - to degrade women and show them as liars and tricksters and manipulators...because those images make it easier to discount any and all women and their accomplishments.

Sky, I've just read this post out to Coley over a rather dodgy cellphone link, and she agrees with you 100% (as do I for that matter.

)

She has experienced sexism at work herself, and it is both insulting and frustrating. She didn't just turn the other cheek, she got herself a new job (hence her now residing on a Hebridean island where the thunderstorms are, well, storming.

)

On edit: Coley's just had her first Hebridean power cut!!! And the river's rising!!!

**Uber** · 04 May 2006, 01:25 PM

Oooooh. I see a dark cloud of doom and gloom has descended upon our fair kingdom. Perhaps it's time to brighten things up again, eh?

**Skydiver** · 04 May 2006, 01:29 PM

and the sad part is...as long as the public accepts it, it'll continue.

as long as there are females that think it's ok for sam to be demoted to keep cam happy or that think it's ok that, at least recently, the only reason to have a female on the show is to be a foil for the males, that think that vala is great and fantastic (as her characertizations, not necessarily her), that think it's ok to glorify a woman using sex as a weapon...it'll continue.

and for the younger fans that are distracted by fun...they don't realize the damage that is being done until they get out in the world and experience sexism for their own...and by then it's too late and another generation will experience the very same things we have

no one character will change the world...but every little bit helps to change perceptions and knowledge and works towards a change

i mean, look at it this way. let's say taht sam was a black man. and he got promoted, sent away, came back and was demoted to be under the new white character

would that be accepted????

and eek, coley be careful!!!!!!!!!!

**Myrth** · 04 May 2006, 02:08 PM

You know I just feel the need to point something out here. We have no idea what's going to happen yet and there seems to be some wild conclusion leaping going on.

I agree with many of the frustrations surrounding the leadership issue, but the comments are starting to bear a familiar ring to another fan group who's favourite character.. well.. died. If all we can do is sit back and ***** about it and paint everything with negativity becasue of it, what good is going to come of anything? The issue has been raised, analysed and expounded on to death. Can we not just agree that yeah the command situation sucked in season 9 and wait and see...?

We have no idea what's coming outside of a few spoilers (and spoilers like that at this stage of the game are usually the non-critical story elements). We know that people have heard our protests (regardless of the "spin" from the boys at the press parties), let's wait and see what they do with it all now.

Amanda seems to be happy doing what she's doing, let's not kill everyone's joy in watching her do it. The danger of the current mood of the thread is that people will start to feel forced to uphold a political position on the issue, and is that what this thread is really about? Just a thought...

**scarimor** · 04 May 2006, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Myrth

Amanda seems to be happy doing what she's doing, let's not kill everyone's joy in watching her do it. The danger of the current mood of the thread is that people will start to feel forced to uphold a political position on the issue, and is that what this thread is really about? Just a thought...

Thanks, Myrth, I was starting to feel a teeny weeny bit depressed! Better now

**ForeverSg1** · 04 May 2006, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by astrogeologist

Spoilers and speculation for Season 10:
(not for those who want to stay on the 'glass half full side of things today'... so open the spoiler with caution)

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