Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[Mandysg1]

Hey kids, new to the forum and still feeling my way round. Just thought I would start by saying hi and i think carter/amanda are both awesome in a multiple personality kind of way.

Welcome mpto the thread, hope you have fun, there are good links on pg 1 of the thread th help you. But don't feel you have to read from pg1 on or we'll never see you again.

a little help from your RFA (royal fertilizer agitator) and newly appointed Royal Bookie)

[WhatFateAlmondRoca]

So do I! She was so much more fleshed out and real than most secondary characters are. She was written and played so consistantly. She had such a unique relationship with all four of SG1. I still find infirmary scenes rather dull, without her.

Yup - I think her true concern for others was played out not only at the bedside but went with her wherever she went. Its just who she was - warm - and that's what made her such a great addition to the mix. Speaking of Janet's character in context with the rest of SG-1 - I would have liked to see more of her and Sam's relationship. What they showed was great, I think the two really had a rapport.

[Formerhost]

I loved the old SG1 - 8 seasons. I want the old style show. For me season 9 isn't great, the show is a shadow of it's former self and everything that made it a unique show. I don't need big names or a large cast. I want the small nucleus of SG1 working together as a team.

Have you watched the first 8 seasons formerhost?

To be perfectly honest, I tried. Really. I watched perhaps about 10 random episodes from various seasons and I can't say they kneeled me. I found them slightly boring actually. I've started really watching this season because of Claudia, who is my favourite actress from the first day I discovered her on Farscape about 6 years ago

[RealmOfX]

I thought it was about time I popped over to this thread and said hi to everyone. I seem to be living in the Who Should Lead thread at the moment, definitely time for a change of pace!

Why am I here? Because Sam is such a great character of course However she is not my favourite character as I don't have one. Since day 1 of the series I have been a team fan more than anything, boy has S9 been a let down in that area for me

I'm a fan of both Stargate and Farscape and I was cautiously looking forward to S9. Funnily enough I was more worried about Vala than I was about Mitchell fitting in. Now at the end of the season I can see Vala fitting in if they keep her toned down but I still cannot see Mitchell ggrrrrrrrrrr

I guess I better take that to another thread huh?

Actually I'm really wanting to see some Sam and Vala scenes as I think AT & CB are both great actresses. Let's hope the writers give them something good to work with (but I won't hold my breath)

[Formerhost]

On Edit: Without going too far OT, what did he say?

I'll transcribe this commentary asap, Sony did really wonderful job subtitling EVERYTHING including commentaries and another features, so it's really great facitliation, especially that English is not my language and quite often I have problems with spoken word

[Deejay435]

On Edit: Without going too far OT, what did he say?

That's good to hear, it helps me be a bit more positive; although prior to the S9 premier we did keep hearing about how it was a new show, etc. And now we've seen S9. Part of me has misgivings - I mean, its hard for me to have faith if it needs explanation. (That's my bias from being in the ad industry - we used to always say if you need to explain the ad its not going to have the desired effect no matter how great we think it is.)

I've been watching since COTG and constantly watch the whole series in order in its entirety and in my eyes the very framework has changed so much you can hardly call it 'the same great framework'. I just don't see it, but that's just one little miniscule viewpoint - I'll watch and see and look forward to doing so along with all of you in Samanda.

I agree.

Taking a show in a new direction is fine-could even be great in the right hands. However, I don't see the 'right hands' as those that see a new season as an entirely different show. Because that takes all that has been great about the show and ignores it. What's that old saying about throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

Change just for the sake of change is never good. Change that is built upon what has come before-that's where you get success. And that is not what I have seen in Season 9-so yours isn't the only miniscule viewpoint. I have seen very little of the 'same framework' in season 9. The framework was a great team of four people who worked together, who had strong relationships with one another, who actually spent most of their time going through the actual Stargate, whose reliance on one another and their own ingenuity saved the galaxy so many times that only Teal'c is still counting. Those are things we've seen very little of this season.

Honestly, FH's quote makes it sound as if what they are really doing, in their minds, is a spinoff. But that they had to keep the old 'bits' around for some reason. (Likely, in order to get that coveted 'longest running Sci-Fi show'.)

I have a very hard time mustering hope for season 10, especially if Cooper remains the sole showrunner. I look forward to what might be an increased presense for Sam-if the spoilers are correct-but other than that I can't find myself looking forward to the season.

[WhatFateAlmondRoca]

I'm generally the optimistic type, so I'll try to help you along. I have great hopes for lots of team stuff in season 10. I thought season 9 had some great team moments, just not enough. Maybe the writers can settle in this year now that they've introduced the new characters [for good or for bad] and realize that they have a great cast all around and that they use them better as a team.

I've been thinking about this since you posted....I think one of the challenges for the 'TEAM' concept in S9 was along the lines of what Skydiver has been saying and with which I agree: characters have begun to serve the plot and the plot has become splintered. One of the 'frameworks' of the show IMHO has been 'TEAM' but we saw very little of our protagonists together this season - at least compared to other seasons. So much of screen time this season was with the members of SG-1 being APART - its now a challenge to have 'team' when the plot necessitates that said team not share the screen much.

There's ways around that, its just a matter of them writing it rather than missing the opportunities.

[DEM]

I thought it was about time I popped over to this thread and said hi to everyone. I seem to be living in the Who Should Lead thread at the moment, definitely time for a change of pace!

Why am I here? Because Sam is such a great character of course

RealmOfX! Good to see ya.

You've been doing a great job Over There. This is a good place to rest your arm and decompress.

[Tracy Jane]

Drinks on the house to mudpuddle! Welcome to the Samandan fold.




Btw, a friend just reminded me of a pic of the RB after one too many butterbeers (I do seasonal work at the Three Broomsticks) off to BJC...!

[Mandysg1]

Welcome welcome and welcome. I haven't been on ALL the threads on GW but I enjoy this thread immensely. I'm sure you will as well.

Oh, and I DEARLY miss Janet! I don't understand why they felt the need to remove her from the mix - she is wonderful and I really really hope they bring her back!

I know how you feel, I never watch Heroes in reruns I read somewhere that initially they weren't going to kill Janet off, but that it was soo moving they had to kill her off??? Goes to show they weren't thinking ahead of what it would mean to the show.

[Coley]

To be perfectly honest, I tried. Really. I watched perhaps about 10 random episodes from various seasons and I can't say they kneeled me. I found them slightly boring actually. I've started really watching this season because of Claudia, who is my favourite actress from the first day I discovered her on Farscape about 6 years ago

I think the trick is to try to watch all the eps from the start. Some are not good especially the first few seasons. The hook is mainly with starting to care about SG1 as a team.

That said I can imagine your frustration at the oldies lamenting the current show. And your frustration at your fave actor's character taking a beating by the likes of me.
However I hope you understand where we are coming from too. Imagine the same thing happened to Farscape. How would you have felt if that series was not cancelled but changed beyond all recognition with CB and BB characters sidelined in favour of new actors and characters being added to the mix with their fans coming on board waxing lyrical about how wonderful the new show was.

Hopefully with that in mind you may understand why a lot of us are quite negative and I admit I'm quite resentful of the events and changes which have been made. My venting is not aimed at anyone in particular - it is venting about something I have lost.

Not quite sure what I am saying apart from asking you to understand where I may be coming from when I'm being negative about seaon 9. Oh and it will never be personal - just honest!

On the subject of Rob Coop - he lost a lot of credibilty with Amanda fans in the way he has handled the new cast changes in magazine articles and in the way season 10 contracts were handled.

[WhatFateAlmondRoca]

Honestly, FH's quote makes it sound as if what they are really doing, in their minds, is a spinoff. But that they had to keep the old 'bits' around for some reason. (Likely, in order to get that coveted 'longest running Sci-Fi show'.)

I agree, it really seems largely like a spinoff for all intents and purposes. I participate on the anti S9 and S10 threads solely because I think they should have ended it at S8 once they knew they were being renewed for another season and knew they wanted to do something 'new'. End it already if you're going start something new. IIRC, they didn't make an actual spinoff with a new name for fear that fans would be confused and not realize its still Stargate???? Among the reasons you cite as well...

Honestly the premier of S9 was so different - and not in a way that seemed good to me - from what I'd seen previously I had tears in my eyes. The parts of the show that I loved and the reasons I watched it were not evident to me at the premier of S9 and indeed I haven't seen them back in S9 much at all.

But with the spoilers that have come out I'm still trying to have faith, remain hopeful, yadda. They did really try to do a LOT of new stuff and had new characters, new baddies, AT out, RDA gone, etc. I'm hoping hoping hoping they find their legs....

[jckfan55]

Has anyone seen the photo of our very own lovely MajorSam on the Gateword Dinner report (main page)?

Yes--what a nice picture!

[ChillinTheMost]

I've been thinking about this since you posted....I think one of the challenges for the 'TEAM' concept in S9 was along the lines of what Skydiver has been saying and with which I agree: characters have begun to serve the plot and the plot has become splintered. One of the 'frameworks' of the show IMHO has been 'TEAM' but we saw very little of our protagonists together this season - at least compared to other seasons. So much of screen time this season was with the members of SG-1 being APART - its now a challenge to have 'team' when the plot necessitates that said team not share the screen much.

There's ways around that, its just a matter of them writing it rather than missing the opportunities.

Do you mean because of the Jaffa storyline vs the SGC one? Stuff like that or that even when they were working for the same objective, they were separated. Either way, I agree that it didn't help the team aspect of the show. I kind of thought the Jaffa storyline was mostly to use Lou Gossett, Jr. and now the he's gone and Teal'c decided the best help he could be is with SGC, we might not see as much splintering because of that. I don't mind as much when they are working the same storyline, but in different places, because the illusion of teamwork is still there, but, it still is better when we get to see them all interact directly.

I don't know that it would now be a challenge to go back to the team driving the plot, they just have to decide to do it and then do it. I don't think one season drove them so far from that that they couldn't find their way back on track somewhat easily. If, like I said, they just decide to do it and then do it.

[WhatFateAlmondRoca]

I'll transcribe this commentary asap, Sony did really wonderful job subtitling EVERYTHING including commentaries and another features, so it's really great facitliation, especially that English is not my language and quite often I have problems with spoken word

Wow, THANKS! I would LOVE to read it. I looked (between briefings, er, I mean, diaper changes) to see if one was posted anywhere on the net but didn't find one. BTW I think your written English is terrific - keep up the good work and its great to share a thread with you.