Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[Skydiver]

Spoiler:

who said that sam was still in the military? or ever in the military for that matter?

sally

exactly.

given the deliberate ambiguity there are very few conclusions that can be drawn

Spoiler:

i've heard speculation about au sam's pregnancy ranging from it being jack's, teal'c's, cam's or even a donor with Janet as the 'daddy' ie: sam's partner

so people can make of it what they will, just like they're having fun speculating who was next in sam's life after marty

[Historian]

Well, I just rewatched RE, to try and see what was all that with Daniel rolling his eyes, I it wasn't the impression that I got. What I saw was a Daniel, in the briefing room, very discouraged at yet another alternate reality, which confused him just a little, but with which he could have go without. And in the control room, I saw a Landry asking if Daniel understood something and might explain things simpler, and a Daniel who was saying "no, forget it, I'm barely understanding it myself, please don't even ask me to try and translate it for you, I'm really not in the mood". Or something like that.

But you're all right. Friendships between Sam, Daniel and Teal'c is barely mentioned, completely superficious, while they try and show us a big friendship and camaradery between them and Cam. TPTB is trying to push the new guy into the gang.

As for Sam and Landry. With Hammond, she had known him for years and had respected him for a long time. With O'Neill, he was the hero of the first Stargate mission which she had read many times, and she was younger, so more respectful of authority, and in time, had come to respect him. Now, she's older, a colonel, and has been around O'Neill too much. So this new guy, Landry, ok, he's her boss, show respect, but he is a complete stranger to her who hasn't earned her respect yet. And she doesn't have to prove herself anymore either. They all know, by now, what she's worth.

Yes, he was being rude to her, telling her, indirectly to shut up. At least, with Jack, it was "Don't waste your time and brain and saliva trying to explain things to me, it's not worth it, I won't understand, and I'm not sure I want to. I trust you, you're the expert, do what you have to do".

[Historian]

The charged, rotating black hole variety? Multiple event horizons, with directionality and temporality alternately determinate and free, cool relativistic and gravitic effects, possible passage through the singularity to alternate universes/locations via conjectural wormhole? That kind of wormhole physics?

Thor, you got aspirin ?

[Historian]

Spoiler:

who said that sam was still in the military? or ever in the military for that matter?

sally

Or that Jack is still in the military, or still in her chain of command or...

Time I went to sleep I think ;-)

[Historian]

true. and they've never been clear on it, but there are also differences between jaffa and hosts.

jaffa can have pregnancies while being hosts (seeing as how we have female jaffa with primtas) while hosts can't have babies without the symbiote being dormant.

hosts can survive without their snake, if the snake consciously separates while the same isn't true of jaffa - or teal'c wouldn't have almost died several times

with jaffa it seems to be an exchange, healing powers, greater strength and longer life for being an incubator with little to no contact with the snake but with hosts they also get the healing powers, greater strength and longer life but also they have a symbiotic 'melding of the minds' that jaffa don't have

the difference between serving as an incubator vs a host means that what applies to one race doesn't apply to another

Honestly, I try not to dig too much in all that stuff, because I'm sure we would find lots and lots of inconsistensies. I try to stay at the surface and enjoy the show. And frankly, I'm not sure my brain is capable of analyzing all that stuff. So I leave it to all of you talented fanfic writers who give me so much pleasure with your stories. You have my admiration.

Goodnight everyone

[Mandysg1]

Honestly, I try not to dig too much in all that stuff, because I'm sure we would find lots and lots of inconsistensies. I try to stay at the surface and enjoy the show. And frankly, I'm not sure my brain is capable of analyzing all that stuff. So I leave it to all of you talentuous fanfic writers who give me so much pleasure with your stories. You have my admiration.

Goodnight everyone

Sorry for giving you a headache, but it's my fault. I asked a question for the fanfic I'm writing, and I got a lot of answers. But I do thank everyone for their input.

[Historian]

Sorry for giving you a headache, but it's my fault. I asked a question for the fanfic I'm writing, and I got a lot of answers. But I do thank everyone for their input.

Nah, no headache. And I hope all the answers you got will help you with your story. I'll be sure to read it. And I'll have to read your other ones too. Good luck.

Historian out

[majorsal]

To keep this post somewhat on topic, I'll just comment that the main thing I've been missing this season, humor-wise, is the cynicism that Richard Dean Anderson brought to the show. I liked Ripple Effect so much because I thought there was a bit of a similar underlying cynicism and exasperation with others that Amanda Tapping exhibited here. Sam's been through so many of these types of situations that her comfort in dealing with them seems to be bleeding into a cynical weariness when it comes to dealing with others. She's not being mean per se, but she is behaving as if she knows she's better qualified to deal with it all. And eight years in, that is exactly where the character should be. It's where Jack was when the show started. For me, that's character growth.

interesting take. and one i like. i'm going to think about this one some more, but i definitely like where you're going with this.




sally

[Strix varia]

Hey mate, welcome to the thread. I like your descriptions of Sam Stick around and join in on the Sam fun

Errrrr... that's so weird. For the first time, I just heard you "speaking" with an Aussie accent, AD...

[LadyJeep]

Edit: Just curious but is anyone here going to the Vancouver Con in March?

I'm going

[Lexa Jayde]

Errrrr... that's so weird. For the first time, I just heard you "speaking" with an Aussie accent, AD...

hehe... thats sooo cute!!!!!

[majorsal]

Martouf has always been a troubled character in my mind. It all started when they introduced him opposite Jacob/Selmak. Initially I think he was supposed to provide a stable, recurring link to the Tok'ra, but was shuffled off to the side after seeing how well the Jacob and Sam dynamic worked. His best scene came when Lantash heatedly took over in Serpent's Song, although TPTB never really went off in that vein again. He simply became a rather bland addition, always playing second fiddle to either Jacob (Jolinar's Memories/Devil You Know) or the plot (Divide and Conquer). I've always bristled at the notion that he was killed because of Sam/Jack ship. He was actually killed in favor of Jacob, and it was a good decision.

great observation!

i never thought, myself, that martouf was killed for 'ship' , but i see what you mean about jacob taking over the tok'ra end of things.

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His return in Ripple Effect was given far more prominence than the character warranted. He's played here as if he was more important to the storyline than he actually was. Imagine if Teryl was the only guest character in Ripple Effect, if all of Sam's scenes with Martouf had been with Janet. It would have made for a far more powerful and meaningful reunion, and given the episode more of a bittersweet flavor. At least to me, that is.

i couldn't agree more. besides the bitter taste the

Spoiler:

sam/martouf ship left (and i wish it would have been FRIENDship), the sam-janet relationship was far more interesting to me. i really don't know why they literally ignored this great opportunity to explore the 'i miss you my friend' and 'cassie is doing great. now' scenarios.

sam and janet were best friends, for cryin out loud!

sally

[gatenv]

it may not be as much mocking as it is eye rolls and 'yeah yeah we know it's boring, but it's rude to shut her up, so just keep your mouth shut and let her finish' facial gestures and tones

daniel and cam especially have this little thing going a couple of times in RE.

which, in a grumpy mood, they want and expect sam to find the answers, but don't want her to explain the answers

One day when there's a problem and everyone's looking at Carter for a solution I want the scene to be:

The boys: Carter, do you have a solution?
Carter: Yep
The boys: Care to share?
Carter: Nope - she turns and leaves
The boys give stupid looks to each other

[gatenv]

Okay I have some BIG news here Joe from 2001 is alive and well. I just saw him talking to James Caan on Vegas

Just saw him and thought it was nice to see him doing more than Home Depot commercials.

Nice to see the Aschen left him in Las Vegas, maybe they got lost going to area 51. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[gatenv]

Sam: Finally there's enough of me to go around for all the ship that's written about me

That's a great caption

Can we add 'which one do YOU want Dr. Lee?'

Would't want anyone to miss out on Sam ship