Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[RealmOfX]

Thanks for the link. I'm really looking forward to this. Maybe I'm missing something but did it actually give us a day for the podcast or did it just say next week. I don't want to miss it.

It's on next Wednesday (I think USA time)

[KatG]

Thank you.

[jckfan55]

Sam and Jack totally meant to be together. I don't find RDA attractive either

well, more RDA for me then

but that's cuz he's way too old for me,

He's a bit too old for me but still dreamy. Hmm, Season 1 Jack/RDA would be a perfect age for me...where's that time machine?

On topic: I love that Sam is one of the team & the guys don't feel the need to protect her any more than they would each other. In fact, she's often the one protecting others--in the early seasons especially Daniel. I always think "Bloodlines" and the hand grenade scene. Very cool.

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[binkpmmc]

snip, snip

Above all, Just Plain Sam Carter works for me, too. The writers aren't all that good at portraying healthy, adult, romantic relationships between any of their characters, and Carter's been the biggest victim of their shortcomings. So... meh. You win.[/spoilers]

Okay this won't be as brevit as earlier but here goes:

Yeah I agree and I just wish TPTKSG-1 would get over thier own pre-pubescent school boy lusty crushes of AT so they could then leave Carter alone - she's a great character and does not need all the idiotic baggage they foist upon her (especially since, IMO, they are so incompetent at writing it).

[Frostfox]

Okay this won't be as brevit as earlier but here goes:

Yeah I agree and I just wish TPTKSG-1 would get over thier own pre-pubescent school boy lusty crushes of AT so they could then leave Carter alone - she's a great character and does not need all the idiotic baggage they foist upon her (especially since, IMO, they are so incompetent at writing it).

I'm so with you and the Dancer on this one. Oh yeah. Sam, plain and unadulterated, is a great character.

FF

[Skydiver]

kinda new fic. i finally got around to putting up my Women of Stargate entry

http://www.jackfic.com/emeraldcity/a...ddlejumper.htm

A Sam and Teyla friendship fic

[Skydiver]

and a brand new sam in atlantis fic
http://www.jackfic.com/emeraldcity/a...s/mailcall.htm

a season four speculation fic

[ReganX]

and a brand new sam in atlantis fic
http://www.jackfic.com/emeraldcity/a...s/mailcall.htm

a season four speculation fic

Fabulous story,

Spoiler:

I could see Sam feeling like that if she took over from Weir and wasn't made entirely welcome. Mitchell's care package was so sweet.

And Atlantis would look great in green... or she could save time and make green glasses part of the uniform.

[Uber]

I agree with the comments about Sam and ship.

See...as as shipper, I'm immensely frustrated with the notion of some that, without ship, Sam is nothing. I am also equally as put out by the idea that because she's a strong, brilliant and fantastic character, she doesn't need ship to complete her or worse, that ship somehow lessens her.

See, she is strong, brilliant and fantastic and this is true whether she's paired with someone or not. Further, if Sam got married next week to Jack or Pete or the mailman, it would not make her any less strong, brilliant and fantastic.

In other words, her romantic entanglements have no bearing on how great she is.

I for one appreciate seeing her struggle with her feelings. It adds a layer of depth and reality to a person who's almost too good to be true...a loyal Air Force officer, a skilled soldier, a genius scientist, a loving mother and friend...etc. Seeing her not be perfect or not deal with a situation with the level of efficiency and proficiency we're used to seeing in her professional life makes it easier to connect with her.

That being said...they started a specific story arc and I think it hurts her character to not at least hint at the decisions she's made, either pro or con. Instead, they've simply ignored it. Granted they're kind of forced to do so given logistical constraints; that is, if they had intended any kind of meaningful resolve. But they could have done something, for crying out loud. A comment. A line. 5 seconds of dialog. Something...anything...to give a glimpse into what happened after Moebius.

So while she continues to be a fantastic character all on her own...as some of the second half Season 10 episodes will attest, I still hope that TPTB tell us what happened and what her decisions were. Frankly, after going through the emotional rollercoaster with her, I feel kinda cheated that they haven't even made an effort.

But then, ambiguity is so much better than actually taking a stand...isn't it?

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[Skydiver]

my feelings are, i don't mind ship IN the story, just not AS the story.

It can be like special effects...there to augment and 'season' the story, but it shouldn't be the sole sum of anything in the story.

I see nothing wrong with mentioning that sam is on a date, or that she's here or there or gets called back to the sgc on an emergency and she's all dressed up. adds a bit of realism to it.

but when we get 43 solid minutes of who she's spending time with and where and why, hten it's too much, at least for me

[tsaxlady]

OT in spoilers

Spoiler:

Easier to drop a quick post here than email everyone at the moment - I'm home - sore but things went well - I'll give you details in an email later

[resurgamlaura]

I agree with the comments about Sam and ship.

See...as as shipper, I'm immensely frustrated with the notion of some that, without ship, Sam is nothing. I am also equally as put out by the idea that because she's a strong, brilliant and fantastic character, she doesn't need ship to complete her or worse, that ship somehow lessens her.

See, she is strong, brilliant and fantastic and this is true whether she's paired with someone or not. Further, if Sam got married next week to Jack or Pete or the mailman, it would not make her any less strong, brilliant and fantastic.

In other words, her romantic entanglements have no bearing on how great she is.

I for one appreciate seeing her struggle with her feelings. It adds a layer of depth and reality to a person who's almost too good to be true...a loyal Air Force officer, a skilled soldier, a genius scientist, a loving mother and friend...etc. Seeing her not be perfect or not deal with a situation with the level of efficiency and proficiency we're used to seeing in her professional life makes it easier to connect with her.

That being said...they started a specific story arc and I think it hurts her character to not at least hint at the decisions she's made, either pro or con. Instead, they've simply ignored it. Granted they're kind of forced to do so given logistical constraints; that is, if they had intended any kind of meaningful resolve. But they could have done something, for crying out loud. A comment. A line. 5 seconds of dialog. Something...anything...to give a glimpse into what happened after Moebius.

So while she continues to be a fantastic character all on her own...as some of the second half Season 10 episodes will attest, I still hope that TPTB tell us what happened and what her decisions were. Frankly, after going through the emotional rollercoaster with her, I feel kinda cheated that they haven't even made an effort.

But then, ambiguity is so much better than actually taking a stand...isn't it?

I very much agree with that. I'm not a shipper per se, but I think that when it was done well, the tension between the two of them was interesting and also reflected a genuine issue in the workplace, particularly the military. Part of the problem is two things: Firstly, they give her these 'entanglements' because she's the female on the team'. Secondly, they also do it because I imagine they want to take those kind of storylines away from O'Neill, or otherwise we'd have a Kirk situation which would be cliched and have little emotional impact. And on both counts- whether it be because they're treating her like a minor character defined by romance or a main character who *has* to have romance 'because they're a main character' they haven't always done so well.

[ReganX]

See, she is strong, brilliant and fantastic and this is true whether she's paired with someone or not. Further, if Sam got married next week to Jack or Pete or the mailman, it would not make her any less strong, brilliant and fantastic.

Very, very true.