Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[Chelle DB]

Wow, minigeek! It was so worth being on page 2 for that one!

I'll second that...if it hasn't been already...that is...WOW!!!! Good one Mini!!

[Chelle DB]

Thanks.
That's a really old one.
I thought everyone had already seen it!
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Hey Mini...if you make another card for Amanda for AT3...that would be an awesome pic to use!!

Night all...happy posting...take care, be safe and be happy!

[ShimmeringStar]

a shipper (gategirl422) said that at at2 or avalon, amanda asked her "if I think Sam should move to Atlantis permanently". without going into the answer from gategirl422, it was amanda asking that question that...

do you guys think that amanda knows how appreciated and loved she is? i mean REALLY how much?

i'm 100 percent sure that part of the reason the show's been canceled is the lack of sam carter/amanda tapping in it.

i just wonder if amanda wonders if no one would really care is she wasn't on stargate anymore...

sally

IMOHO, after attending Shore Leave and especially AT2, I would say yes to your bolded question. Amanda was *the* big draw for both. (IMOHO of course.)

But giving you my AT2 experience... methinks she started off many of the cocktail party conversations greeting the table and then, before inquiring about each of our wine glass charms, asking if we'd heard about the cancellation of SG-1 and asking what our thoughts were on it or asking about Sam going to Atlantis. It was a good conversation starter that put tables at ease (and you see how talkative we all are, so yeah, most of us were eager to put our 2 cents/pence in and assure her we were angry, what we thought of SciFi and TPTB, and that we were 100% supportive of her whereever she went/whatever she did.) and it gave her the opportunity too to share privately with her fans what she thought. So Amanda asking a question to learn more about her fandom, whether it was about Sam/McKay/SGA or the cancellation, or whatever... it wasn't unusual and it was very much how Amanda is.

And then of course... you've got the fact close to 300 of us were willing/eager to come to a con soley dedicated to her, that most of us at least once during that weekend thanked her for what she's given us as fans and viewers, that we as a small group were able to raise 25K pounds for her designated charity, heartfelt gifts like minigeek's poster...... etc., etc., etc.! I think she's got a really good idea now and the G4 undoubtedly share our support with her. (How else would you convince someone there will be enough support for a very small, intimate con? Especially a 2nd time in a row. Or now.... for a planned 3rd time in a row?)

[L.A. Doyle]

Ah, yes. I used to worked at McDonalds and I've caught myself answering the phone like that. Recently, and luckily it was only my brother calling me both times I did this, I've answered my phone with "Hi welcome to Roy Rogers, can I help you?" And when I'm at work, multi-tasking and trying to run both drive-thru and counter, I'll answer one with "Can I help you?" and the other with "Will that be all for you?"



Oh, I like this idea of Amanda's new project being the new series. I would love to see that.

I work at a credit union in the summers, and one day I had been running a lot of credit reports. I came so close to answering the phone 'Credit Report' rather than 'Credit Union'. And when I hear phones ringing at other businesses, I want to jump over the counter and answer them.

Oh..third series being Amanda's new thing? That'd be cool... We know it'd be great!

Or now.... for a planned 3rd time in a row?)

*wants to go*

[Deejay435]

I'm wondering who never did this actually! LOL

... says she who replied several times to home calls in the same way she replies at work!

I used to answer my home phone "This is Denise" all the time-because that's how I answered at work. Then I noticed my boss just says "Hello" when she answers. Since I switched to just saying "Hello" at work, it's been much easier not to screw up at home!

[Skydiver]

Oh sure the youth market. Cuz that's who makes up the largest part of their fan base. I mean those 18-25 year olds are who I see at the conventions don't you?

yeah, and they have such big allowances to spend too. not to mention all that HUGE salaries they get from flipping burgers at McD's

THat's what makes no sense about this obsession with catering to the young. They don't have money.

You want to cater to a part of the market that has discretionary income? single, ADULT males and females, ones that are late 20's to thier 30's....the ones that have worked thier way to the middle management jobs and don't have families, thus have all tehir own salaries to spend on themselves

that's where the money is.

not in the kid that just graduated from college with 35K in loans to pay back and an entry level position

[abydosorphan]

I'm wondering who never did this actually! LOL

... says she who replied several times to home calls in the same way she replies at work!

*dusts off forum*

Well, I seem to have been AWOL for ages, but in catching up this morning I saw this and thought I'd share a funny story of my own.

I work at a medical office. We often leave messages for people giving vague descriptions on whatever they need to talk to us about and request that they call us back at... and leave the main office number.

I got home from work one night and had a massive migraine (so you know the brain wasn't working to full capacity) and called my brother to talk to him about something. Leave my message and told him to give me a call back at *my number* if he had any questions.

Now, this might not be hysterical EXCEPT:
I live in my parents house... which is at the same number that HE lived in my parents house for 30+ years.

I would think he of all people would KNOW the number.

I felt like SUCH an idiot after that one.

[Skydiver]

i just have a funny feeling that AT's project is away from Stargate. Just a feeling that i have.

I think that, while she's very grateful for 10 years of steady work, the friendships that she's made, the awards that she's won and the like, she's also aware that, as long as the franchise is run the way it has been lately, she'll never be more than an actor in it.

directing, writing, producing, the boys keep all this for themselves. Yet those skills are where not only the money is but longevity as well. Actors have a finite 'life span' and AT seems to know this. Especially with this sudden fascination with all things youthful, skinny and pretty.

Actors are, in many ways, the lowest peopel on the totem pole. They're eminently replacable, there's no shortage of up adn coming folks to fill in if an actor is a bit too much of a pain. They're subject to the whims of the writers, producers, directors. They can be pressured into doing things they don't want to. (come on honey, just take off your shirt. we have all these people here and you don't want to make thier day any longer now do you???)

Writers, producers, directors, on the other hand, have more of the power. No one cares if you put on 10 pounds, or if you're pregnant (and i doubt there's a 'no pregnancy clause' in a writers' contract)

If you want a future in the entertainment industry, you get out from in front of the camera and get behind it.

I think AT knows this, and i think, as much as she loves Stargate and what it's given her, i think she knows that, if she ever wants to be in a position of control and power, that she gets away from Stargate, because they will never allow her into thier little circle of power. Coop, Brad and the boys have things the way they like it and they dont' seem to really want to help folks under them grow and develop.

thus, staying with Stargate, is a bit of a dead end. And if she wants more, she'll need to step out from that sphere of influence and go elsewhere

Just my feelings and impressions. but i think she's ready to let stargate go and move out and onto bigger and better things

[ChopinGal]

i'll just post gategirl422's quote:

"At the tea Amanda asked me if I think Sam should move to Atlantis permanently, and I was like "Nooooo." I said besides the fact that it'll be putting it'll ruin the chemistry between Mckay and Carter, there would also be 3 strong women in one show that already has an established group of characters. Then I was like "And oh yeah... she'd be WAY to far away from Jack"


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i loved gategirl422's answer, but i was immediately hit with wondering if amanda felt wanted or appreciated, only because she was asking a fan if sam should be moved to atlantis permanently. and considering how sam's been handled in season 9 (not sure about s10)... it just made me sad.


sally

Since Gategirl422 has posted about this and since I was there, yes, Amanda did ask us at the tea how we felt about Sam going over to Atlantis. She seems really concerned about how her fans will be with this change and how her contractual commitment will play out.

I told her that I welcome seeing Sam Carter anywhere ... SGC or the Pegasus Galaxy ... just as long as I get to see Sam! But I also said that I'm hoping they don't overdo a good thing and continue down the Sam/Rodney UST path. That is already getting stale in my book. I told her that I want the writers to give her and the women of Atlantis some really good stuff to play with and suggested an off-world women warriors thing with Sam and Teyla battling to stay alive ... some heroic episode like that.

Amanda, gracious lady that she is, is very aware that she will be cutting into screentime of all the SA regulars and also aware that "the women" have not gotten their share of well-written arcs.

I felt like we were AT's small focus group at tea and so grateful to have had that time with her. She cares a lot about what her fans think.

[abydosorphan]

thus, staying with Stargate, is a bit of a dead end. And if she wants more, she'll need to step out from that sphere of influence and go elsewhere

As an add on to this, I think she also knows (from her interaction with fans, etc) that now is probably one of the best times for her to do this.

It's obvious that she has a decent (if not better) fanbase. There are people out there that will watch things simply because she's involved with it.

Knowing this and 'testing the waters' to see what her fanbase reactions are could help to give her the added push that she needs to feel more confident about moving out.

[Deejay435]

yeah, and they have such big allowances to spend too. not to mention all that HUGE salaries they get from flipping burgers at McD's

THat's what makes no sense about this obsession with catering to the young. They don't have money.

You want to cater to a part of the market that has discretionary income? single, ADULT males and females, ones that are late 20's to thier 30's....the ones that have worked thier way to the middle management jobs and don't have families, thus have all tehir own salaries to spend on themselves

that's where the money is.

not in the kid that just graduated from college with 35K in loans to pay back and an entry level position

I'm glad you made this point-I was going to bring it up earlier myself. The 18-25 market may have a small percentage of kids who do have discretionary income-but not nearly in the amounts that older groups would have. Even younger teens would likely have more cash on hand-those still living with mom and dad, getting allowances, and having no rent, student-loan or tuition payments, or who aren't trying to get by on entry level positions without a degree.

The logic of catering to an audience who doesn't have the money to spend on your advertisers boggles.

I'd say it's part of the ancient sterotyping of sci-fi in general if it wern't for the fact that other genres do the same things. Instead I'd have to say it's part of the whole "Cult of Youth". Man, maybe Logan's Run wasn't so far out after all.

[Skydiver]

and it's a good stopping point. STargate is over, she has one year with atlantis that she has to do, which could give her enough time to get her next project rolling and be ready to hit the ground running next nov or so or whenever she's done with atlantis.

If there's a s5 of atlantis and she's asked to be in it, that's specuation for the future and nothing we really need to go into. but i think career wise, and even emotionally, she's ready to try something else and start a new chapter in her career.

I do nothing but wish her the best. I look forward to whatever her new project is. Her tastes are close enough to mine that if she's excited about it, i think there's a good chance that i'll enjoy it as well.

I know that, whatever her project is, i'll check it out simply because she's involved in it.

which is, you know, how a lot of macgyver fans got into stargate

[Deejay435]

and it's a good stopping point. STargate is over, she has one year with atlantis that she has to do, which could give her enough time to get her next project rolling and be ready to hit the ground running next nov or so or whenever she's done with atlantis.

If there's a s5 of atlantis and she's asked to be in it, that's specuation for the future and nothing we really need to go into. but i think career wise, and even emotionally, she's ready to try something else and start a new chapter in her career.

I do nothing but wish her the best. I look forward to whatever her new project is. Her tastes are close enough to mine that if she's excited about it, i think there's a good chance that i'll enjoy it as well.

I know that, whatever her project is, i'll check it out simply because she's involved in it.

which is, you know, how a lot of macgyver fans got into stargate

I agree with you that Amanda's new project is not the third series.

If it weren't being developed by Bridge Studios I might think differently.

To piggy-back on what you were saying earlier even if Amanda was interested in having the third series be her next project, it's not just that Amanda is smart enough to know she'd never be able to have the kind of input she needs at the Bridge, I seriously doubt the B@B would allow it-not as anything but an actor.

She's already said, hasn't she, that her next project she's going to be EP-I don't think the B@B will ever give another actor that kind of status-they gave it to RDA in the beginning because they needed him. Without him, I believe, the project would have had no backing. But now they don't believe they need anyone (hence their complete refusal to accept any kind of crit on their work). Their hubris knows no bounds.

You're 100% right, imo, that the B@B wouldn't share their control-especially not with someone who would be more interested in **gasp** quality than the oh-so-revered fun.

Your posts are just completely reading my mind today!

[ChopinGal]

and it's a good stopping point. STargate is over, she has one year with atlantis that she has to do, which could give her enough time to get her next project rolling and be ready to hit the ground running next nov or so or whenever she's done with atlantis.

If there's a s5 of atlantis and she's asked to be in it, that's specuation for the future and nothing we really need to go into. but i think career wise, and even emotionally, she's ready to try something else and start a new chapter in her career.

I do nothing but wish her the best. I look forward to whatever her new project is. Her tastes are close enough to mine that if she's excited about it, i think there's a good chance that i'll enjoy it as well.

I know that, whatever her project is, i'll check it out simply because she's involved in it.

which is, you know, how a lot of macgyver fans got into stargate

Exactly. She's had two years of very special moments with her loyal fans and really has these memories and support to fall back on and also to encourage her to go forward in new directions.

Can't wait to see her spread her wings!

Years into the future, when Amanda writes her memoirs, I picture a large chapter called "the Post-Carter Years" and then "Eleanor of Aquitaine".

[ChopinGal]

I agree with you that Amanda's new project is not the third series.

If it weren't being developed by Bridge Studios I might think differently.

To piggy-back on what you were saying earlier even if Amanda was interested in having the third series be her next project, it's not just that Amanda is smart enough to know she'd never be able to have the kind of input she needs at the Bridge, I seriously doubt the B@B would allow it-not as anything but an actor.

She's already said, hasn't she, that her next project she's going to be EP-I don't think the B@B will ever give another actor that kind of status-they gave it to RDA in the beginning because they needed him. But now they don't believe they need anyone (hence their complete refusal to accept any kind of crit on their work). You're 100% right, imo, that the B@B wouldn't share their control-especially not with someone who would be more interested in **gasp** quality than the oh-so-revered fun.

Your posts are just completely reading my mind today!

You are SO on the money with this! Let's face it, she had to wait SEVEN YEARS to get to direct! Yet, she came to Stargate as a theatre professional and had already been involved in the art of directing. She's a quick study and bright woman. She could have easily made the transition from theatrical directing to film if "the boys" let her in the door. 'Nuff said.

Becoming an EP is another feather in her cap. I think that this could lead to starting her own production company in the future if all goes well, another goal she has mentioned on occasion.

Amanda is a winner. She doesn't need the male establishment to validate her credentials. Unfortunate that she's had to play that game for so long. I am so hoping that she now has more freedom and power to follow her own professional star. Star without stargate. It's a tough business though.