Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[Skydiver]

*grins* Hmmmmm..... So which SG character gets to play which in SG: The Brady Bunch Revisited?

vala has to be, what was the middle daughter??? Jan, that's it Jan. and sam can be marcia because jan was always jealous of marsha

course with her pigtails, vala might better fit cindy...nah, that dialoge just won't work for a cindy, no matter how hard a try

[golfbooy]

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Well, I for one wouldn't mind it at all if Barrett died in Insiders. First and foremost, I think TPTB have gone a little too far in declawing Ba'al, in making him a Maybourne-type baddie. Right now he's too close to that realm of bad, but not really bad. It's also added to the general impression that the Goa'uld weren't all that tough of an opponent for all those years and that the fight against the Ori is all the more difficult than anything that's come before. With Ba'al as the only Goa'uld left in the story, as the face of the "old enemy", he needs to have more teeth. I don't like that marginaliziation of past struggles by SG-1. Barrett reaching the pearly gates thanks to Ba'al would go a long way towards restoring him (and the Goa'uld) to the more dynamic villain that embodied both his (the Goa'uld's) earlier work.

Also, there's no great love loss between me and the Barrett character. He's been a badly drawn one trick pony, continually pulled and stretched to fill whatever hole needed to be filled in his episodes. In Wormhole X-treme he's merely the NID putz who ties up Carter and Daniel. But in Smoke and Mirrors (grrr!), he's suddenly a friend of Sam's who can help clear O'neill and the single trustworthy soul at the NID and on a secret one-man mission to excise the rouge agents. Yeah, that worked. Then, in Resurrection, TPTB don't even bother to rewrite the script. They just give Jack's part to Barrett to play, running the story through him as they would Jack. Finally, Ex Deus Machina has Barrett back to simple NID stooge, sitting in a truck for no other purpose than to ask Sam Carter about her personal life.

Yup, Barrett's death would be good--good for Ba'al, good for the Goa'uld, and good for Stargate. I think death is the most useful thing the character can contribute to the story at this point.

[Gate gal]

vala has to be, what was the middle daughter??? Jan, that's it Jan. and sam can be marcia because jan was always jealous of marsha

course with her pigtails, vala might better fit cindy...nah, that dialoge just won't work for a cindy, no matter how hard a try

Daniel can be Pete, Teal'c for Greg, and Cameron for Bobby. Jack can play the football player from the rival high school who has a crush on Marcia.

[Gate gal]

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Well, I for one wouldn't mind it at all if Barrett died in Insiders. First and foremost, I think TPTB have gone a little too far in declawing Ba'al, in making him a Maybourne-type baddie. Right now he's too close to that realm of bad, but not really bad. It's also added to the general impression that the Goa'uld weren't all that tough of an opponent for all those years and that the fight against the Ori is all the more difficult than anything that's come before. With Ba'al as the only Goa'uld left in the story, as the face of the "old enemy", he needs to have more teeth. I don't like that marginaliziation of past struggles by SG-1. Barrett reaching the pearly gates thanks to Ba'al would go a long way towards restoring him (and the Goa'uld) to the more dynamic villain that embodied both his (the Goa'uld's) earlier work.

Also, there's no great love loss between me and the Barrett character. He's been a badly drawn one trick pony, continually pulled and stretched to fill whatever hole needed to be filled in his episodes. In Wormhole X-treme he's merely the NID putz who ties up Carter and Daniel. But in Smoke and Mirrors (grrr!), he's suddenly a friend of Sam's who can help clear O'neill and the single trustworthy soul at the NID and on a secret one-man mission to excise the rouge agents. Yeah, that worked. Then, in Resurrection, TPTB don't even bother to rewrite the script. They just give Jack's part to Barrett to play, running the story through him as they would Jack. Finally, Ex Deus Machina has Barrett back to simple NID stooge, sitting in a truck for no other purpose than to ask Sam Carter about her personal life.

Yup, Barrett's death would be good--good for Ba'al, good for the Goa'uld, and good for Stargate. I think death is the most useful thing the character can contribute to the story at this point.

I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one.
(spoiler from Insiders)

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Ba'al needs to be very bad. I never understood the friendship between Sam and Barrett any way. It seems a little forced. They've killed off too many guest stars latey, but they killed off the wrong ones. Killing Barrett at least makes a little sense. He isn't as well loved as some of the ones we've lost lately.

edit: sorry, I hope no one was spoiled before I fixed my spoiler tab.

[DEM]

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Then, in Resurrection, TPTB don't even bother to rewrite the script. They just give Jack's part to Barrett to play, running the story through him as they would Jack.

Wha huh? That was O'Neill's part? But... huh? Why?

Hmm...

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Your dislike for Barrett, golfbooy, is similar to (though perhaps stronger than) my dislike for "SG-1 does all other agencies' (or ship commanders' ) jobs for no good reason" stories. So, personally, I consider it fortuitous that RDA wasn't available for Resurrection and, thus, that the job of cleaning up an NID mess involved the NID.

[Tracy Jane]

vala has to be, what was the middle daughter??? Jan, that's it Jan. and sam can be marcia because jan was always jealous of marsha

course with her pigtails, vala might better fit cindy...nah, that dialoge just won't work for a cindy, no matter how hard a try

I'm totally lost *Scratches head* Is this some sort of weird American cultural reference?

[KatG]

I just worry that

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given their track record, they will probably kill him off, they seem to like to do with our favourite guest characters

Eeek! No, no, no. Don't even think it.

Speaking of the Pegasus Project, did you notice that Amanda Tapping

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often seemed ready to burst out laughing ? I first noticed it on that image (http://stargate-sg1.hu/photos/index....gmFilters=#pic, or am I wrong ?

She did seem to

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be having a really difficult time holding it in. I'd love to see the outtakes from this one

[KatG]

*grins* Hmmmmm..... So which SG character gets to play which in SG: The Brady Bunch Revisited?

Well Shep is definitely Bobby. No doubt about it.

[golfbooy]

Wha huh? That was O'Neill's part? But... huh? Why?

I believe that when Michael Shanks originally wrote Resurrection (and I could be wrong), he wrote it as an episode for the entire SG-1 team. Only when it became apparent that RDA wouldn't be around for filming did it get changed to include Barrett. If I remember correctly, Resurrection was filmed as the last episode of season seven, and TPTB used all of their "Rick-days" on The Lost City. I also seem to recall that Resurrection was filmed in September of that year, with RDA not working a day past August. Don't quote me on that, though, as I'm not 100% sure.

Hmm...

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Your dislike for Barrett, golfbooy, is similar to (though perhaps stronger than) my dislike for "SG-1 does all other agencies' (or ship commanders' ) jobs for no good reason" stories. So, personally, I consider it fortuitous that RDA wasn't available for Resurrection and, thus, that the job of cleaning up an NID mess involved the NID.

Yes, very similar. I never liked the move away from the militaristic NID. When it was being run as a branch of the Air Force it was plausible to have SG-1 involved in "NID stories". Enigma, Touchstone, and Shades of Grey all work because it's SG-1 dealing with the military. The shift in the NID to an agency-based organization replete with men-in-black has always been a sore spot with me. They walked a fine line there for a while, with "Colonel" Simmons in his suits and D.C. office, but Barrett and his NID is just too far gone for me to be OK with. I don't like that a one-off episode that played stylistically with an X-Files feel (Nightwalkers) ended up becoming wholesale change in one of the show's major throughlines.

ETA: The irony of all this being, of course, that the shift in NID focused has led to many Sam-centered episodes. Though, I'm not completely sure that's been a good thing, either.

[Linwelin]

Pegasus Project...

[...]




She did seem to

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be having a really difficult time holding it in. I'd love to see the outtakes from this one

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Hope they will be on the DVDs.

[the dancer of spaz]

Spoiler:

Well, I for one wouldn't mind it at all if Barrett died in Insiders. First and foremost, I think TPTB have gone a little too far in declawing Ba'al, in making him a Maybourne-type baddie. Right now he's too close to that realm of bad, but not really bad. It's also added to the general impression that the Goa'uld weren't all that tough of an opponent for all those years and that the fight against the Ori is all the more difficult than anything that's come before. With Ba'al as the only Goa'uld left in the story, as the face of the "old enemy", he needs to have more teeth. I don't like that marginaliziation of past struggles by SG-1. Barrett reaching the pearly gates thanks to Ba'al would go a long way towards restoring him (and the Goa'uld) to the more dynamic villain that embodied both his (the Goa'uld's) earlier work.

Also, there's no great love loss between me and the Barrett character. He's been a badly drawn one trick pony, continually pulled and stretched to fill whatever hole needed to be filled in his episodes. In Wormhole X-treme he's merely the NID putz who ties up Carter and Daniel. But in Smoke and Mirrors (grrr!), he's suddenly a friend of Sam's who can help clear O'neill and the single trustworthy soul at the NID and on a secret one-man mission to excise the rouge agents. Yeah, that worked. Then, in Resurrection, TPTB don't even bother to rewrite the script. They just give Jack's part to Barrett to play, running the story through him as they would Jack. Finally, Ex Deus Machina has Barrett back to simple NID stooge, sitting in a truck for no other purpose than to ask Sam Carter about her personal life.

Yup, Barrett's death would be good--good for Ba'al, good for the Goa'uld, and good for Stargate. I think death is the most useful thing the character can contribute to the story at this point.

As I try desperately not to gasp at your uncharacteristic bluntness, I must wonder now if it's not BOUND to happen.

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And if they decide to give him a stronger backbone and a larger purpose, ONLY to kill him off...

... well, grr.

[minigeek]

As I try desperately not to gasp at your uncharacteristic bluntness, I must wonder now if it's not BOUND to happen.

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And if they decide to give him a stronger backbone and a larger purpose, ONLY to kill him off...

... well, grr.

I dunno...

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Yet another character who's been attracted to Sam and then eventually ends up six feet under? I suppose that would feed the cliche, but even THAT is getting a bit old by now, don't ya think?

[tara3583]

It's official!

Amanda is...

the #1 celebrity in the July Celeeb Poll!!!!!!

Congratulations Amanda!!!!!

We finished with a lead of over 13,000 and more than 67,000 votes. Thanks to everyone who voted, whether it was once or a thousand times. It was all worth it to see Amanda where she deserves to be...#1.

That's great news, i only got to vote for Amanda a few times and then i could'nt any more because my password did'nt come through!
I really hope Amanda gets to hear about this as you so rightly say she indeed does deserve this!

[the dancer of spaz]

I dunno...

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Yet another character who's been attracted to Sam and then eventually ends up six feet under? I suppose that would feed the cliche, but even THAT is getting a bit old by now, don't ya think?

When it comes to Sam...

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They like to pick and choose which details from the past are necessary to dredge up again.

Her relationship with Janet? Meh.

Her relationship with Martouf? Fair game.

Her relationship with Daniel and Teal'c? Double meh.

Her relationship with Barrett? Fair game.

Her past position as CO of SG-1? Not goin' there.

Her relationship with Cameron? She lurves him. Period.

Her past snarkiness with McKay? Perrfect.

Her past will-they-or-won't-they?-non-relationship with Jack? Jack who?

Her past relationship with Orlin? She lurves him. AND she shagged him. Period.

Her blending with Jolinar, and her ability to use Goa'uld tech? See past position as CO.

Her Black Widow Curse from years past? Gold.

ETA: Her Replicator duplicate, and the consequences of her actions within the galaxy? Lame.

So I find myself relatively open to the NEW things they'll be doing with her character, even if they're not all that NEW, and are only disguised as NEW because they're being treaded with NEW characters. I'm not expecting a whole lot of character development or action for Sam, so if it happens, I'll be pleasantly surprised. And if they pull off said character development or action, without shamelessly making one of the new characters look kewl in the process, I'll be amazed.

And I've pretty much accepted the fact that they probably won't bring anything old to the mix, either.

[golfbooy]

I dunno...

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Yet another character who's been attracted to Sam and then eventually ends up six feet under? I suppose that would feed the cliche, but even THAT is getting a bit old by now, don't ya think?

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Well, as much as I like Sam, I'm trying to look at what's best for the show overall, not just Carter. Yes, I suppose that the ridiculous Black Widow Carter thing may be drudged up yet again, but it's not something that ever really bothered me or something that I ever even bought into. No one on SG-1 is lucky in love. That's just the nature of the beast. Daniel and Teal'c have brought just as much death and destruction to their loved ones as Sam ever will. Jack isn't exactly out there knocking'em dead either. So, while my love of Barrett is marginal, my love of the Goa'uld and their deliciously entertaining evilness seems to know no bounds. I think it'd be great if Ba'al could kill someone, and since I know Mitchell makes it past this episode, that leaves Barrett as my next choice.

All joking aside, though, I'd love it if eventually Ba'al was the one who finally was able to kill Adria. Wouldn't it be great if SG-1 had to make a choice of either allowing the Goa'uld to regain power via the destruction of the Ori/Adria or allowing the Ori to continue their holy crusade? Then the Goa'uld could take over as the show's primary villain again, and the Ori could take a backseat a la the Replicators, only coming out once in a while. That way the whole show wouldn't be dependent on the Ancients (an entity that was only meant to be used once in a while), and the multiple personalities of the Goa'uld could once again be used to provide a more varied set of baddies for our heroes. It'd be a cornucopia of evil. The show's cup would runneth over. It's bounty would know no bounds--oh God, pretend I didn't just mention Bounty.