Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[scarimor]

Dani



happy birthday

[ChopinGal]

Since some folks have groused that Sam is too perfect, that she always knows the answer... and that they want to see more of situations where Sam *doesn't* know the answer and doesn't figure things out... I set about to make a list of the times that Sam *didn't* know the answer -- because I think they've done a good job (sometimes too good) of showing Sam as not-perfect and not always having the ansewr (much more so than most scifi lead science-types) - and they started this in Season 1. (Frankly, I think they've gone too far to the 'don't know' side over the past couple of years...)

At any rate, here's the list that I have so far, and I'd like help adding to it

Not Super!Sam – she has her human sides, she has her vulnerabilities, she doesn’t always have the answer, she doesn’t always save the day

Season 1: The First Commandment – she can’t pull the trigger on Jonas (she isn’t the perfect soldier – she’s human)

Season 1: Solitudes – she didn’t think of dialing another gate. She didn’t save the day and rescue herself and Jack. (not Super!Sam who always comes up with the answer)

Season 5: Red Sky – they screwed up that sun!

Season 5: Desperate Measures – she doesn’t get herself out of this one. Jack swoops in and saves her.

Season 6: Forsaken – she got cold-cocked and tied up, then got put on the sidelines because of wooziness.

Season 7: Avenger 2.0 – she definitely didn’t save the day here. Felger had to reprogram the ‘Gate and Jack swooped in and saved both Carter and Felger.

Season 7: Fallen – she can’t run the ‘digger’ well enough – Kianna must operate/drive the machine

Season 7: Death Knell – she outruns the SuperSoldier for awhile, but it ultimately outlasts her and Teal’c and Jack swoop in and save her.

Season 8: New Order – Jack and the guys and the Asgard save the day. Fifth lets Sam go

Season 8: Gemini – RepliCarter fools her and gets the frequency/code to the Ancient Replicator gun.

Season 9: Beachhead - Carter isn’t needed to go with the bomb after all.

Season 9: Camelot – Sam can’t deal with the SuperGate fast enough

Ship – the whole Pete saga, Jonas, Jack – she definitely doesn’t have the relationship thing down.

And, then for contrast, here's a list of episodes where I think that Carter was a main hero, or *the* main hero, or did something decisive towards victory for that episode.

Episodes where Sam *did* save the day, where she was figuring things out, where she could see ‘the answer’, where Sam was the hero

Singularity – heroically going back down to Cassie
Hathor – taking on the Goa’uld, saving the base, saving Jack from being a Jaffa
Seth – using the hand device against Seth
1969 – figuring out the time travel/sunspots
Fair Game - where she uses the healing device on the Goa’uld
A Matter of Time – great Science!Sam
2010 – Science!Sam, Ship!Sam, Heroic!Sam
2001 – falling through the horizontal ‘Gate
Small Victories dumb ideas – blowing up the O’Neill to save the Asgard
A Hundred Days -creating and building that particle accelerator
Foothold – saving the SGC, and Earth
Grace – saving the Prometheus, it’s crew, and the aliens

Astro, you are a true Keeper of the Flame! Thanks so much for reminding us of these great Sam moments.

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I think the hand-to-hand combat scene in Emancipation reflected early Sam's spunk and determination to take the Man down after his mistreatment of women. Oh, how I wish they would have written more gritty combat scenes like that for Sam in future episodes in addition to all her brilliant moments as scientist.

[ShimmeringStar]

S10 preview/promo spoilers

Spoiler:

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but I find it kinda funny/weird/interesting/ironic that the past three episode promos, starting from Morpheus and ending with Insiders, showed a whole heckuvalot of Sam - Sam in peril, Sam in the line of fire, Sam + explosions, etc.

I don't know what to make of THAT little tidbit either, considering TPTB totally pimped "Morpheus" as a Vala+Humor ep (nothing against that) and "The Pegasus Project" as a Daniel+Atlantis ep (nothing against that either... really).

I mention it, because I'd kinda accepted the fact that Sam would be a loyal and true anchor of the show (alongside Daniel and Teal'c), who helped remind us of the Stargate of Old, but who really didn't have much to do for the rest of the season. And, considering how much Sci Fi just lurves to pimp SG-1's new characters as well, I honestly did not expect to see promos that featured much of Sam at all. I've gotta say I'm surprised - either it's a bit of ignorance on someone's part, or someone, somewhere thinks that viewers actually care about what happens to Carter, of all people. We'll see, I guess.

AT *is* now their RDA, (IMOHO)

Spoiler:

MS is out for -what is it- at least two eps? And they're still severely underutilizing CJ (although, no offense to CJ, SG isn't really 'Tales from the Jaffa' either, so it wouldn't make sense to focus on strictly Jaffian arcs either....). So just in case the Two New Guys can't carry the show ratings wise.... it probably is best to go ahead market the show to the pre-'TNG' fanbase. *giggles* Guess it is pimping.

And methinks it's very much planned, these promos. Watch for the upcoming RDA guesting promos. Bet you'd think Jack was actually *really* back instead of just showing up for eh... 45 seconds of the 45 minute ep.

Oh well.... let me get off here for now... things to do, places to go.... and the lure of the PC is too strong if I keep reading here!

[ChopinGal]

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"Okay, so nothing's really all that black-and-white in life but I think this is pretty straightforward: it's Dani's birthday!!"

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DANI! CHILL OUT AND ENJOY YOUR DAY!

[ChopinGal]

I have my SG music videos going tonight, and I came across a good Sam one. Go here and scroll down to 'One Girl Revolution'. There's also a good Jacob/Sam one as well.

These are all terrific - great music videos! In My Daughter's Eyes just blew me away. And Dare Me was delightful!

Thanks, LAD!

[AmberLM]

Spoiler:

Sam whumping? Where? Poor Sam. Why do we want to whump her? I don't mind some whumping as long as she gets to whoop up on someone sometime.

Preferably Mitchell! *evil cackle* Sorry, I'm being mean. No, I don't like Sam whumpage either, she's had way more than her fair share IMO!

[NearlyCircular]

NC

[AmberLM]

Happy Birthday Dani!

[RepliCartertje]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DANI

[Mandysg1]

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"Okay, so nothing's really all that black-and-white in life but I think this is pretty straightforward: it's Dani's birthday!!"

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DANI! CHILL OUT AND ENJOY YOUR DAY!

Oh yes a very Happy Birthday Dani 76

Ah CG which one it Dani

[minigeek]

D'oh, sorry I missed sayin' this last night...

Happy Birthday Dani !!!!

mg

[L.A. Doyle]

Everybody must be at Dani's Birthday celebration, because this place is crawling this morning! Hope you're having a great day, Dani!

[jckfan55]

ETA: To prevent triple posting, I thought I'd add this...

S10 preview/promo spoilers

Spoiler:

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but I find it kinda funny/weird/interesting/ironic that the past three episode promos, starting from Morpheus and ending with Insiders, showed a whole heckuvalot of Sam - Sam in peril, Sam in the line of fire, Sam + explosions, etc.

I don't know what to make of THAT little tidbit either, considering TPTB totally pimped "Morpheus" as a Vala+Humor ep (nothing against that) and "The Pegasus Project" as a Daniel+Atlantis ep (nothing against that either... really).

I mention it, because I'd kinda accepted the fact that Sam would be a loyal and true anchor of the show (alongside Daniel and Teal'c), who helped remind us of the Stargate of Old, but who really didn't have much to do for the rest of the season. And, considering how much Sci Fi just lurves to pimp SG-1's new characters as well, I honestly did not expect to see promos that featured much of Sam at all. I've gotta say I'm surprised - either it's a bit of ignorance on someone's part, or someone, somewhere thinks that viewers actually care about what happens to Carter, of all people. We'll see, I guess.

Maybe it's finally dawned on PTB that the fans love Sam. BW seemed kind of taken aback by the question in the GW interview about "is Sam being replaced?" Perhaps it could be dawning on them that the incessant promos for the "new kids" was backfiring.

I'm actually looking forward to Friday's episode. I'm feeling pretty optimistic about this season. It may not be up to early season standards, but it seems to be a bit more on track to me.

Also I was just wondering--how many posts do you think Samanda will have by the time of Gabit? I bet we surpass 50,000 & wouldn't that be great for someone to report that count to Amanda. If I remember right, someone did at one of the conventions when we were at around 20,000 and she was stunned. My guess is about 90% of posts are in some way support for AT & Sam. (Especially since the "Sky Patrol" keeps us on topic).

[Mandysg1]

Maybe it's finally dawned on PTB that the fans love Sam. BW seemed kind of taken aback by the question in the GW interview about "is Sam being replaced?" Perhaps it could be dawning on them that the incessant promos for the "new kids" was backfiring.
I'm actually looking forward to Friday's episode. I'm feeling pretty optimistic about this season. It may not be up to early season standards, but it seems to be a bit more on track to me.

Also I was just wondering--how many posts do you think Samanda will have by the time of Gabit? I bet we surpass 50,000 & wouldn't that be great for someone to report that count to Amanda. If I remember right, someone did at one of the conventions when we were at around 20,000 and she was stunned. My guess is about 90% of posts are in some way support for AT & Sam. (Especially since the "Sky Patrol" keeps us on topic).

I'm just sad, because I don't see BW's name as writer of any of the other epissodes for S10, what a shame

[jckfan55]

I'm just sad, because I don't see BW's name as writer of any of the other epissodes for S10, what a shame

Way to take the wind out of my sails, Mandy.