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    Originally posted by Deejay435

    I was a little worried about the team being so fragmented through the episode. But then, thought that it would play out nicely showing the team coming back together. And I did like that aspect of it-
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    especially Sam's firm commitment to going with Bray'tac because she knows Daniel is still alive. (Guess she learned not to doubt Daniel's ability to survive in Threads, eh?) I loved her reaction when she realized he was okay. I liked her focus when she was floating in space-worried as she might have been for herself, she was able to assess the Lucien Alliance ship, and give intel to the Oddysey. (And, someone tell me please, what's the Colonel of the Oddysey's name? I thought it was Emerson, but then I thought that was the Helmsman's name. Who is who?)

    I liked the little "Is Daniel dead?" bit, a nice little nod to his numerous revivials. And I liked that none of the chracters were willing to believe he was dead.

    Vala was toned down considerably, and didn't irk me at all-and I enjoyed Daniel's reactions to her explainations about Adria. And I liked Vala's explaination about the name she gave her. I liked that, and other scenes, that showed that Vala feels torn about her; that she has that maternal instinct to protect her kid, but also sees Adria for what she is, and the danger that she represents. It makes me believe she isn't going to go all Rosemary protecting her perfact baby here. And I WISH I had known the correct pronunciation months ago-I'll never get AY-dria out of my head now.

    Adria fell flat to me. Maybe it was just that the storyline is too predictable, or maybe because there were too many little actresses playing her in too few shots, but it just didn't work. But I'm withholding any real opinion of her until the permanent actress (whom I did like in Firefly) takes over the role. It could be good.

    Mitchell, on the other hand, annoyed me more than last season. He has run out of any and all chances I was willing to give him, I guess. Or maybe he bothered me more because I expected them to fix him, whereas I had written Vala off as a lost cause. Why on Earth, or off it, was Mitchell piloting the Oddysey when rescuing Sam? I know why he was written as piloting it, so he could be the 'hero'-but seriously why was he piloting it? Are we expected to believe that in the last year he's had time to learn to fly a battlecruiser, in addition to learning the ins and outs of gate travel, ostensibly 'leading' the flagship SG team during the early days of a brand new war, settling into a new team, new assignment, new General, AND spending days or weeks off world? And not just learn the basics of flying it, but become so adept at it that he can manuver it adroitly enough to pick up a tiny little person in the vastness of space? Manuver it better, in fact, than the actual pilot, or the ship's commander, who were standing right there?

    Please. And Brad Wright whines that he doesn't receine smart crit? Dude, you get what you give, and that? No way would a smart person buy that for one second.
    It is Col. Emerson. Don't know the other guy's name.

    As much as I wished we had more Sam, she was *in character.* I especially thought so in the parts you mention. I think we are also seeing AT continuing to give her all (as always) even if she doesn't get big scenes. Often with AT it's not just the Big Dramatic Scenes (TM) but in the small moments that I see how great Sam is. AT never "phones it in."

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      Originally posted by kes
      Sorry CMOH?
      Yeh...him already having field expirience would have been great.
      cmoh

      cameron was given the congressional medal of honor - this nation's highest and most respected military honor - for doing his job and crashing his plane

      imho, the writers just pulled the name of a medal out of thin air and didn't research it properly. the cmoh is not handed out like it's candy. in fact. out of hte over 3000 recipients of it, only 1-200 of them are alive.

      it''s quite normal for it to be awarded posthumously. in other words, to earn it, a member of the miltary usually sacrifices his life to accomplish something
      Where in the World is George Hammond?


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        Originally posted by ReganX
        I think that she'd have had to have spent at least two, possibly three years as a major before being eligible for promotion again.

        Think about it, though - if Sam had been promoted to Lieutenant Colonel in Season Five or Six, she would have been addressed as Colonel, just like Jack even though he would actually have been a grade higher.

        To the casual viewer who wasn't aware that Sam was a lieutenant colonel and Jack a full colonel or wasn't sure about the distinction between the two, it'd look as though they were the same rank, raising the question of who was in charge.
        Ya. Probably why they didnt touch it before.

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          Hmm I see. The Medal thing. Did Sam and O'Neill have recive one of those?I mean they saved the planet so many times. One thing I thought was wierd...I didnt see Mitchell do all that much during the battle I couldnt understand what all the fuss was about lol
          But I think his character aint that bad.

          EDIT: Sorry about the double posts but I cant keep up with whom writes what lol
          Y'all pretty much have the same ICON and I dont know you "guys" yet

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            Originally posted by kes
            Hmm I see. The Medal thing. Did Sam and O«Neill have recive one of those?I mean they saved the planet so many times. One thing I thought was wierd...I didnt see Mitchell do all that much during the battle I couldnt understand what all the fuss was about lol
            But I think his character aint that bad.
            No, to the best of my knowledge, neither Sam nor Jack have received the CMOH - even though Jack risked his life to fly a soon to explode stargate away from Earth and Sam has "saved the whole galaxy" on her resume.

            Technically, Mitchell did less to protect SG-1 than the other F-302 pilots and the crew of the Prometheus as he was shot down partway through the battle while they would have considered fighting but for some bizarre reason he is the one who was singled out for honours.

            I blame General Magwitch.

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              Originally posted by ReganX
              No, to the best of my knowledge, neither Sam nor Jack have received the CMOH - even though Jack risked his life to fly a soon to explode stargate away from Earth and Sam has "saved the whole galaxy" on her resume.

              Technically, Mitchell did less to protect SG-1 than the other F-302 pilots and the crew of the Prometheus as he was shot down partway through the battle while they would have considered fighting but for some bizarre reason he is the one who was singled out for honours.

              I blame General Magwitch.
              LOL ya he could have done something a bit more heroic like beam aboard one of the alien ships and kicked butt.

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                Originally posted by jckfan55
                Ok my view of last night's episode. Maybe it was lowered expectations, but I thought it was pretty decent.
                Yeah, I'm liking this lowered expectation thing myself. Works pretty good since I have nowhere to go but up.

                Originally posted by jckfan55
                Some problems of course
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                The rescue of Sam was pretty cool, but since when does Mitchell know how to pilot one of those huge ships.
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                I'm thinking Mitchell learned at the same time the Russian colonel, General Hammond and Walter did.
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                  Originally posted by KatG
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                  I'm thinking Mitchell learned at the same time the Russian colonel, General Hammond and Walter did.
                  Well if you think about it
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                  They dont really fly it, they just give orders.
                  I mean the Rus and Hammond.Because l havent seen the ep so I dont really know what Mitchell is doing.

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                    Originally posted by Skydiver
                    major mitchell would have worked. and IMHO, it would have 'saved' his character from most if not all of the crit.

                    a major can have fun adn lark about and be a goof

                    majors don't quite have to have the leadership competance that a boss does

                    but by chickening out, falling into the sexist trap of 'male lead must be boss' TPTB have irreperably damaged the character.

                    and no amount of complaining that we can't take change will alter the fact that the writers have mucked up cam beyond most if not all repair
                    I have to agree. If Mitchell was a Major, he didn't have to lead the team, Sam would be in charge, and she would do a great job. Mitchell would be a great asset to the team cause he is a really good pilot and if he wants he can shoot as a good soldier. But it is not because you can do that, that you are a good leader. I mean you have to have more to it than just be a good soldier. You have to know the people who you work with, and you have to trust them. You also have to show them that you believe in you. But most of all you have to be able to give commands and the other team members have to listen to you. So you have to be someone with the strength to do it. And I don't think that Mitchell is such a person. And that is why I don't believe as him to be a leader. He looks more like a friend to everyone who makes stupid and silly jokes. And that you just can't have in some situations, I find it innopropriate from time to time. IMO he makes these jokes cause he feels intimitaded by Sam or just doesn't feel at ease. So to me that shows that he isn't a good leader if you don't feel good in being the leader.

                    And granted that O'neill also made some jokes but they were totally different, and he made them after working years together and being good friends to eachother,almost family. And he knew when to make them and when not. Ok maybe I am a little biased, but I think O'neill was a good leader, he had the capabilities to be a good and fair leader who has an eye on his team and his team-members. he knew what had happened to them and he knew what they had been through. I don't have that feeling with Mitchell, to me he is just a little bit the type who doesn't care that much.

                    And he really has an ego problem Mitchell. He thinks as him as the hero and I never like that in people.
                    If TPTB had not made him that way I might have liked him.

                    I really think Sam would make a great leader cause she has the capabilities to lead and she also is a great person to do it and has the experience and she has seen it from the best person (O'neill)
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                      Originally posted by KatG
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                      I'm thinking Mitchell learned at the same time the Russian colonel, General Hammond and Walter did.
                      Hmm...
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                      Although I understand your general point, I'm not certain that Chekov, Harriman, or Hammond ever actually piloted their respective ships. Yeah, Hammond & Harriman stretched my disbelief, but they never claimed nor exhibited specialised technical skills surpassing those whose posts they assumed. Reading an automated computer display ("shields are down") or saying "You do this and you do that!" is a far cry from micromanoeuvring a damaged battle cruiser.

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                        Originally posted by kes
                        Hmm I see. The Medal thing. Did Sam and O'Neill have recive one of those?I mean they saved the planet so many times. One thing I thought was wierd...I didnt see Mitchell do all that much during the battle I couldnt understand what all the fuss was about lol
                        But I think his character aint that bad.

                        EDIT: Sorry about the double posts but I cant keep up with whom writes what lol
                        Y'all pretty much have the same ICON and I dont know you "guys" yet
                        sam and jack got the air medal for saving earth in serpents grasp/lair.

                        they have not ever received the CMOH. despite the fact that, over the years, they're done tons more heroic stuff than taking a shot and crashing their ship.

                        i file the cmoh blunder with the 'there's no zoo in colorado springs' comment from chimera....lack of reasearch on behalf of the writers (the cheyenne mountain zoo is quite famous and located about 10 miles from the SGC)

                        i think someone just pulled the name of a medal out of their heads and didn't bother to google it...or didn't listen to their military advsior who should have educated them on the importance and reverance of the cmoh.
                        Where in the World is George Hammond?


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                          Originally posted by ReganX
                          To the casual viewer who wasn't aware that Sam was a lieutenant colonel and Jack a full colonel or wasn't sure about the distinction between the two, it'd look as though they were the same rank, raising the question of who was in charge.
                          Oh my. We couldn't have that could we? After all the idea that two people could share leadership of a team is ludicrous? Right?
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                            Originally posted by Skydiver
                            i think someone just pulled the name of a medal out of their heads and didn't bother to google it...or didn't listen to their military advsior who should have educated them on the importance and reverance of the cmoh.
                            I wonder if the Air Force advisor ever tried to persuade them not to use the CMOH, maybe suggested that the Air Medal would have been a better choice and was pooh-poohed; after all, Sam has an Air Medal, obviously Mitchell needs something specialler since he's the hewo.

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                              Originally posted by Skydiver
                              sam and jack got the air medal for saving earth in serpents grasp/lair.

                              they have not ever received the CMOH. despite the fact that, over the years, they're done tons more heroic stuff than taking a shot and crashing their ship.

                              i file the cmoh blunder with the 'there's no zoo in colorado springs' comment from chimera....lack of reasearch on behalf of the writers (the cheyenne mountain zoo is quite famous and located about 10 miles from the SGC)

                              i think someone just pulled the name of a medal out of their heads and didn't bother to google it...or didn't listen to their military advsior who should have educated them on the importance and reverance of the cmoh.
                              Honestly, I really don't think they HAVE an air force advisor anymore. I think they probably jumped ship. Do we have any evidence to suggest otherwise?
                              Yepp, it's blank down here.

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                                Originally posted by KatG
                                Oh my. We couldn't have that could we? After all the idea that two people could share leadership of a team is ludicrous? Right?
                                Absolutely ludicrous.

                                Just like somebody being given the CMOH and their choice of posts for crashing a ship.

                                Or a general, when given the choice between a highly experienced officer and one with no experience in the field in question placing the inexperienced officer in command.

                                Or Earth being able to churn out spaceships at a remarkable rate despite having to scrounge funding without the general population being any the wiser and having to hunt the galaxy for naquadah and trinium.

                                Or somebody being given permission to use alien equipment to share highly classified information with somebody who didn't need to know.

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