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    Originally posted by majorsal
    majorsam! that pic you sent me for greening is BIG and cute!







    sally
    I KNOW! It's like ... a giant fifty foot plackard of Amanda (which is super gorgeous!), but my gateworld control panel stretches into the next timezone every time I go into it now! LOL

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      Originally posted by majorsal
      majorsam! that pic you sent me for greening is BIG and cute!



      sally
      Lol, i'm glad you liked it...

      Originally posted by minigeek
      I KNOW! It's like ... a giant fifty foot plackard of Amanda (which is super gorgeous!), but my gateworld control panel stretches into the next timezone every time I go into it now! LOL
      haha, sry... kind of

      I actually had no idea how BIG the thing was, just that it was purty and that any Samandan would (hopefully!) like it...
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        Originally posted by astrogeologist
        Here are some Foothold pics to go with everyone's great episode comments
        Astro, I'm so glad you have graced us with your presence again. I can't tell you how much I've missed your wonderful comments and photo story boards.

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          Originally posted by Skydiver
          what i'm waiting for...ok, in an eps of atlantis, the one with the Hoffans, they said that this one person had a protein marker and was immune to the culling...and that was the basis of their work in making an anti-goauld vaccine

          well, wouldn't it be cool if that protein marker was a 'i once was a host' marker and that the goauld came into existence because the ancients were messing with them, to see if htey could be an antidote to the wraith?

          which COULD make sam's little visit all the more important if that's the case. that jolinar's legacy is a way to make people immune to and thus defeat the wraith?
          I love that idea.

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            Originally posted by Lys
            I'm not sure Jack has the protein marker. As far as I remember, Sam has it because Jolinar died within her. Kanan left Jack. I don't think he left anything but bad memories to Jack.
            And what would Janet, Teal'c and Jack do with only the protein marker ? Isn't it the naquadah in Sam's blood that's supposed to make Goa'uld stuff work ?
            As Sam able to use Ancient technology because she has the Ancient gene, I'm not sure I'd love it. It has a bad taste of "Super Sam" for me. I'd like better if she was frustrated because she couldn't make it work at first but try to find a way to bypass the gene switching on Merlin's devices or others. Of course, it works, but I like it better when Sam has to explore a device, put it apart, try something and then something else to make it work. I don't want to see her find a device, put her hand on it, see it glow and then only have to say "Cool!".
            You are correct in that Sam recieved the protein marker when Jolinar died and was absorbed by Sam's body, and you are also correct in that Kanan did not die within Jack's body, so Jack never obtained a protein marker like Sam.

            However, if you remember in the episode Legacy, Daniel was infested by several of Machello's organism which caused him to go a bit looney. At the beginning of the episode Fraiser explained why the bodies they found in the tomb didn't have symbiotes in them.

            FRAISER: The Goa'uld died before their hosts. We know this due to a unique protein marker left in Goa'uld bodies or host bodies after a Goa'uld dies.

            CARTER: The same protein marker that was left in my body after Jolinar was killed?

            FRAISER: Yes.

            Everyone assumes that Daniel has gone crazy until the organism leaves his body and enters Teal'c, but because the devices were created as a means to kill a gou'ald, it began to kill Teal'c as well. Daniel finally recovers from the affects of the organism and is capable of telling them about hearing Machello's voice and they make the connection between the device they found on the planet and another one they found in Machello's labratory.

            Upon testing the device, ten new organisms are released and they infect Sam, Janet and Jack. Within minutes, Sam's organisms die because they detect the protein marker.

            CARTER: Whoa! Oh, I think I spoke too soon.

            DANIEL: What's wrong?

            CARTER: Oh, God, something's happening.

            The organisms come out of her ear and drop to the floor. She bends down and pokes them to check they are dead.

            CARTER: I think they're dead. Daniel, I could have sworn I heard.

            DANIEL: Machello?

            CARTER: Yes. He said my Goa'uld captor is dead, but I don't have a Goa'uld.

            DANIEL: You did.

            CARTER: That has to be it. Janet said that when a Goa'uld dies, it dissolves into a host and leaves a unique protein marker.

            DANIEL: So these Goa'uld killing inventions die because they detect the protein marker? That doesn't make any sense. Why isn't Jack immune? He should have some sort of protein marker left over from Hathor's Goa'uld.

            CARTER: No. No. That Goa'uld left Colonel O'Neill's body and died before it had a chance to take over. Janet, can you hear me? Can we extract my blood and inject it into everyone that's infected.

            So they extract the protein marker from Sam's blood and inject it into Janet, Jack and Teal'c hoping it will do the same thing for them, and just before Fraiser gives Teal'c the serum she says:

            FRAISER: Okay. Well, I don't know if this is going to work. He'll have the marker but he'll still have a Goa'uld larva. Depends on how smart Machello made the little beggars.

            So therefore, I would assume that Teal'c, Janet and Jack all have the same unique protein marker as Sam.

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              Originally posted by ForeverSg1
              So therefore, I would assume that Teal'c, Janet and Jack all have the same unique protein marker as Sam.[/FONT]
              Perhaps, but maybe the fact that they would only have had a minisicule trace of it meant that Machello's little slug thingys absorbed it and it left their bodies when they did or else that their bodies excreted it.

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                Originally posted by Deevil
                I am not sure the protein marker would be persistant... I have the feeling that it would be much like a virus, once it's run its course it would no longer exist in the blood stream. There is nothing to suggest it was something that should exist persistantly in anyone that was injected.

                Well at least that's my take on the issue. I didn't feel it needed to be revisited for that reason.
                I guess I can see your point, but wouldn't Sam's original protein marker eventually leave her body as well if this were the case? I guess I always looked at it more like a vaccination. Once you have been given the polio vaccination it leaves a type of marker within your body to prevent you from ever obtaining the disease.

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                  Originally posted by Skydiver
                  what i'm waiting for...ok, in an eps of atlantis, the one with the Hoffans, they said that this one person had a protein marker and was immune to the culling...and that was the basis of their work in making an anti-goauld vaccine

                  well, wouldn't it be cool if that protein marker was a 'i once was a host' marker and that the goauld came into existence because the ancients were messing with them, to see if htey could be an antidote to the wraith?

                  which COULD make sam's little visit all the more important if that's the case. that jolinar's legacy is a way to make people immune to and thus defeat the wraith?
                  I really like this idea. It would definitely be a nice way of blending the storylines between the two shows and it would also give Sam a true reason for being a part of the Atlantis storyline.

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                    Originally posted by ForeverSg1
                    I guess I can see your point, but wouldn't Sam's original protein marker eventually leave her body as well if this were the case? I guess I always looked at it more like a vaccination. Once you have been given the polio vaccination it leaves a type of marker within your body to prevent you from ever obtaining the disease.
                    But there are other vaccinations, like tetanus and MMR, that you need to get boosters for to keep your immunity. Maybe the protein marker could be like that.

                    Sam had a whole symbiote dissolve inside her. Jack, Janet and Teal'c would only have got a few cells worth apiece.

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                      Originally posted by ForeverSg1
                      So therefore, I would assume that Teal'c, Janet and Jack all have the same unique protein marker as Sam.
                      I'm not saying that they don't have the protein marker, but that they don't have naquadah in their blood and so can't make Goa'uld technology such as the healing device work.
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                        Originally posted by ReganX
                        But there are other vaccinations, like tetanus and MMR, that you need to get boosters for to keep your immunity. Maybe the protein marker could be like that.

                        Sam had a whole symbiote dissolve inside her. Jack, Janet and Teal'c would only have got a few cells worth apiece.
                        I think you're correct. At first, you'll find high levels of the protein marquer and then when time passes, the levels decrease. If we assume the protein marker and the naquadah left by Jolinar in Sam's blood work this way, it could be the reason why she couldn't make the healing device work on Daniel almost 4 years after Jolinar and why she could make it work on Cronus only 1 year after Jolinar.
                        If this is the explanation and if for once there's consistent writing, we should expect Vala's abilities to use Goa'uld technology to also wear off sometime in the future.
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                          I think it may be different with Sam. The Goa'uld bonded with her, had a chance to mess with her immune system then died. When your immune system is tweaked by things, sometimes they never actually go. I don't see her ever loosing it.

                          As for why it didn't work with Daniel. I don't think she ever found out how to use it, and being really close to the situation wouldn't have helped her ability to concentrate.
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                            Originally posted by Lys
                            I think you're correct. At first, you'll find high levels of the protein marquer and then when time passes, the levels decrease. If we assume the protein marker and the naquadah left by Jolinar in Sam's blood work this way, it could be the reason why she couldn't make the healing device work on Daniel almost 4 years after Jolinar and why she could make it work on Cronus only 1 year after Jolinar.
                            If this is the explanation and if for once there's consistent writing, we should expect Vala's abilities to use Goa'uld technology to also wear off sometime in the future.
                            Of course, Sam has had a second symbiote die inside her so that should give her a protein marker boost.

                            Is it naquadah or the protein marker or both that allows somebody to use Goa'uld technology?

                            If it's naquadah, then it would make sense that Jack, Janet and Teal'c wouldn't be able to use Goa'uld technology since that would probably be heavy enough to have been separated along with the red blood cells.

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                              Originally posted by minigeek
                              LOL - Ooober, we always knew you were one of THOSE!


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                              PS-> Oober, that animated Sam/Jack pic you repped me with earlier is ... very distracting!

                              *fans self*
                              Hmmm? sounds very interesting, hey miniisithotinheregeekmaybe you could pm the pic to me
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                                Originally posted by ReganX
                                Of course, Sam has had a second symbiote die inside her so that should give her a protein marker boost.

                                Is it naquadah or the protein marker or both that allows somebody to use Goa'uld technology?

                                If it's naquadah, then it would make sense that Jack, Janet and Teal'c wouldn't be able to use Goa'uld technology since that would probably be heavy enough to have been separated along with the red blood cells.
                                It's the naquadah that allows to use the Goa'uld tech. Specifically, naquadah in your blood. The protein marquer is only left when the symbiote dies within the host.
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