Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[Tracy Jane]

aahah, innocent my mikta

*snickers behind Sky, pointing at Mandy*

[Mandysg1]

[Simhavaktra]

I thought I'd post this because although it's not entirely Sam related, I remembered a conversation we had a while ago about how tying the King Arthur stuff into the Ancient storyline was just complete randomness and madness.

Anyway, I'm driving over to Glastonbury this week (Still find it funny how they say it on Stargate!) and was just looking up some stuff on what there is to see over there, when I hit upon a whole history of Avalon and everything, and I thought the following was very interesting.

"The Glastonbury Tor of Avalon is thought to be a remnant of Atlantean Civilisation as well as the burial place of King Arthur and Queen Guinevere". I never knew about the Atlantean thing, so the SG1 link there does have some basis in real mythology.

Anyway, I did see talk about Avalon being the home of the faeries. I'd like to see them get that into SG1 Actually... maybe I should stop joking about these things.

Weeellll, I think at least part of the Atlantean thing is the result of Dion Fortune's "Avalon of the Heart" and, having read it, I have to suspect it's... not exactly... historical history.

(Still trying to work out where, if anywhere, in the various legends that bit about Morgan drowning sacrificial victims in Chalice Well to power her water scrying came from. And now experiencing thorough-going terror that TPTB-Continuum will tell me. And that they've been reading Fortune - and taking it seriously enough to use it as a basis for their own mythology. ack! ack! !!!! )

And, frankly, I'd like to see the Daoine Sidhe, not the Victorian fairies, not the Alterans playing folktales, but the People of Peace of the old legends (or Patricia Kennealy Morrison's Keltia novels! :drools in anticipation at the picture of Nia the Golden dealing with the Ori: ) show up and kick some butt in Stargate. If we have to treat incredibly advanced science as magic, we could at least have some magnificently powerful and alien magic and magic workers with no tiresome and cliched religious notions to exercise it? Oh, the Daoine Sidhe would absolutely adore and covet Sam Carter - a brilliant and beautiful mortal who bends the fabric of the very universe and time itself to her hand - and, if I must have retreads and cliches, I'd actually rather watch her and her SG-1 family work through the aftermath of classic literary "Sidhe Plots", namely Sam being abducted by the Sidhe, or gifted with some wild magic by them. Amanda would make a fantastic Carter-Sidhe. She's already tall, lean, graceful, blonde, and possessed of a pair of magical eyes. Add the classic 'light' that surrounds a Sidhe, and she'd be a more-than-spectacular Sidhe, both beautiful and terrible as the sun itself.

Off to plot Samhradh inghean Saoi stories - and maybe sleep.

[LaCroix]

As I was walking upstairs a really crazy thought entered my head. I think the
fandom(s) have heard that BW has been doing alot of interviews for SG-1 and a few for SGA. And many here have heard rumours that he might be a co-showrunner with RCC.

Now here's the crazy part.

What if RDA requested that Brad Wright take over as showrunner when he's there and not RCC. I know that BW has "lived" these characters more than RCC. And maybe, just maybe we might see Jack, Sam, Daniel, and Teal'c shine once more in their former glory.

Gushy, I know. What do you think? not the gushy part.

See you all tomorrow.

[gatenv]

This is my first chance to get on the forum since I got back from Vancouver. Just wanted to say that I've always enjoyed the character of Sam Carter and
not saying I wasn't an Amanda Tapping fan before, I just hadn't really seen her outside of SG-1. Having seen her at the convention, she was a riot on stage and I definitely consider myself a fan now. I could almost squeee! OK, not really, I just can't do that.

Now, I'm going to cruise through about 80 pages of posts from the last week to see what I missed at the con.

and kudos to all the guests who handled the strange questions that some people ask.

[Deejay435]

You and me both. Sam might give up combat, but never the lab for long. Sal and others may dream of them happily settled down, but *I* don't want to see it. It's just not the show I know.

I'm a shipper, and I would hate to see that. Sam settling down? Not the Sam I want to watch.

[RealmOfX]

I was catching up on all the posts here and I was at Dem's post about Avatar when the database went down. So off I went and watched it!!

Yeah I think Sam is kickass and it's nice to see that Teal'c, a 100+ year old warrior thinks so too. Did you also notice that although it was an episode that was centred around Teal'c it still involved the TEAM, something that was sadly lacking in S9. Sigh, I better stop thinking about S9 until I get in a better frame of mind - I can feel a major dummy spit coming on. go to your happy place...... go to your happy place...... go to your happy place......


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YAY my 200th post

[SnoggingPicard]

Never really noticed the lack of "Save the day, Sam!" moments this season, but now that you mention it, that really is different. I kind of miss the uber-genius Carter who would go on long technical spiels about stuff and order all the guys around. I mean, she doesn't need to blow up a sun every ep or anything, but that is definitely on the wish-list for next season. I miss the older episodes where Sam's smarts were responsible for saving the team more often than not. It'd be nice to get a throwback to that once or twice in season ten. It seems that scientists have become more an object of humor or ridicule on the show -- between Rodney over in Atlantis, the silliness of the supporting scientists in the SGC, and the reduced scientific role of Sam, it does seem to have taken a backseat. It'd be great to see more of this next year.

[gatenv]

it's also a bit of an insult to the real men who have won this honor.

It's also an insult to those who have died and been denied the honor.

[Agent_Dark]

I know that BW has "lived" these characters more than RCC. And maybe, just maybe we might see Jack, Sam, Daniel, and Teal'c shine once more in their former glory.

You do know that RCC has actually been there since the beginning? He was the executive story editor for the first two seasons and got promoted to co-executive producer when Jonathon Glassner left to spend more time with his family. He's also the one that wrote some of our favourite episodes - Singularity, In the Line of Duty, Point of View, 48 Hours, Heroes, Lost City.... Threads....

I'm not trying to defend any alleged misdoings on his part, its just that I think its quite unfair to hang all the **** on RCC. I highly doubt he would (or even could) just decide that he doesn't give a rats arse about the original characters and blow them off.
Also I seem to remember something about another group of fans back in season6 who had an intense dislike for one of the producers at that time. For very similiar reasons too - they believed he was responsible for wrongdoings on the part of their favourite character. And it got to the point where they were making 'Wanted: Dead or Alive' postes with his face on them...

[DEM]

I was catching up on all the posts here and I was at Dem's post about Avatar when the database went down. So off I went and watched it!!

Mwahahaha! My insidious plan bears fruit!

YAY my 200th post

Congratulations!

I'm not trying to defend any alleged misdoings on his part, its just that I think its quite unfair to hang all the **** on RCC.

Yeah, my problem with RCC's work this year is that he seems to not be a very good showrunner. :shrug: Not everyone is cut out for that.

well, okay, there was the snoozefest that was Crusade, but everyone has a bad script now and then.

[binkpmmc]

You do know that RCC has actually been there since the beginning? He was the executive story editor for the first two seasons and got promoted to co-executive producer when Jonathon Glassner left to spend more time with his family. He's also the one that wrote some of our favourite episodes - Singularity, In the Line of Duty, Point of View, 48 Hours, Heroes, Lost City.... Threads....

I'm not trying to defend any alleged misdoings on his part, its just that I think its quite unfair to hang all the **** on RCC. I highly doubt he would (or even could) just decide that he doesn't give a rats arse about the original characters and blow them off.
Also I seem to remember something about another group of fans back in season6 who had an intense dislike for one of the producers at that time. For very similiar reasons too - they believed he was responsible for wrongdoings on the part of their favourite character. And it got to the point where they were making 'Wanted: Dead or Alive' postes with his face on them...

I have no doubt cooper can write (as can most of the others but they all seem to have lost that ability since their duties doubled with SGA) - however he is, IMO, a terrible showrunner - as showrunner he is responsible for the direction of the show and the decisionmaking and, IMO, he has made a mess in the two seasons he has been showrunner. He should go back to writing and leave the showrunning to others, hopefully Brad Wright. (The story AT recounts re: the end of affinity - that disaster, among other disasters - solidified for me my opinions of cooper, as did all of his arrogant comments in interviews over the past 2 years. It is also my opinion, especially after that mysoginst clap-trap nonsense, that levine is cooper's mouthpiece.).

[Deejay435]

I have no doubt cooper can write (as can most of the others but they all seem to have lost that ability since their duties doubled with SGA) - however he is, IMO, a terrible showrunner - as showrunner he is responsible for the direction of the show and the decisionmaking and, IMO, he has made a mess in the two seasons he has been showrunner. He should go back to writing and leave the showrunning to others, hopefully Brad Wright. (The story AT recounts re: the end of affinity - that disaster, among other disasters - solidified for me my opinions of cooper, as did all of his arrogant comments in interviews over the past 2 years. It is also my opinion, especially after that mysoginst clap-trap nonsense, that levine is cooper's mouthpiece.).

What mysoginistic claptrap?

[binkpmmc]

What mysoginistic claptrap?

The infamous levine blog from early in S9 that was pulled shortly after he made it. The same blog entry wherein he revealed CB was pregnant. In it he refers to GW fans calling cooper a mysoginist - they apaprently like to make things up with regard to their hurt feelings as I never saw anyone call cooper a mysoginist - I even searched the forum for it and found zip - and I asked mallozzi about it but, as usual with the hard questions (like the one where I asked what mitchell brings to the team that was not already there with the BIG3 and what his purpose was on the team) got no reply on it.

[majorsal]

Welcome to Samanda, Realm. You hit the nail on the head, Amanda is one of the most expressive actors out there and some of those Hollywood flash-in-the-pans should take lessons from her. She can say so much with a look, a glance, a gesture, body movement. I think that she decided to incorporate the clenching of her sleeves as part of her geeky persona for Moebius because it was a mannerism of hers when feeling unsure or nervous. AT always stays in character even when the scene's focus is elsewhere.

I think her fine acting is why many of us have fallen under her spell. It's so refreshing to find and celebrate excellence in this often mediocre world.

i have very fine tastes i think (it's not easy to *really* impress me). i might watch an actor/actress and think they're fine, but to be moved and WOWED by one... it takes that extra IT. and amanda has it in spades.

some of my fave actresses over time have had the perfect combo of great acting ability and that certain spark that's made me want to live through them while watching their movie/show. some of them have been: barbra streisand, marsha mason, gillian anderson, sela ward, ginger rogers, sissy spacek, jane fonda, sally field... the list goes on (even though i can't think of more at this moment ).

but the thing is, i put amanda up in that category of awesome actress with IT! that 'it' that makes you want to watch every single movement and motion. to replay a scene over and over because their little details make you gasp.

yes, i'm a fangirl of amanda tapping!




sally