Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[Skydiver]

O.o

Sam/Jonas pairing?

hehehe, you know, i take it back. they might hate me more for year seven. i'll have to keep track and see how many flames i get

[majorsal]

i just came from visiting the pro sam/cam ship thread... it wasn't that revolting. hey, at least they're hooking her up with a good looking guy, instead of some of the duds the show has.

BUT FOR THE RECORD, I WANT SAM AND JACK TO END UP TOGETHER! AS A COUPLE! NOW! love, exciting and new, climb aboard, we're expecting you... the luuuuv boat, la la la la la la la lala




sally

[golfbooy]

Some spoilers for Arthurs Mantle:

Spoiler:

I dunno if it was just me, but did anything think that Amanda herself looked as if she was having fun during that ep? I mean a couple of times throughout the ep I noticed some quite Amanda-ish reactions. Like when she gave Ben the high five - that was a definite goofy Amanda moment. And the grin she gave Daniel when he got shifted to her dimension, another very Amanda-ish goofy grin. And of course the poking scenes

Spoiler:

Yeah, that Carter/Daniel moment was the best beat in the whole episode. There's been so little interaction between Sam and Daniel and Teal'c that I'll take whatever I can get. And Arthur's Mantle had a number of fun little beats. Teal'c taking a swing at Mitchell and the poking scenes were a lot of fun, too.

[Mandysg1]

I want to give a shout out, and a big Thank You ChevronSevenfor helping my with my new sig

[Simhavaktra]

Watching Amanda make the absolute most for Sam of what little she's been given to do - and I beg you not to mistake me, because I truly do think she's been as brilliant as she's been incredibly underused - has been just about the sole pleasure I've been able to take in this season 9 of Stargate in the form in which it's actually been broadcast.

Other than Amanda... honestly, I've reached the point where the vast majority of the entertainment I derive from Stargate actually comes from mocking it - and Gods, they make it almost too easy for even that to be much fun, with the abyssmal level to which the writing, plotting, directing, characterizations, accuracy, logic, coherence and ongoing continuity of the show has sunk.

So, if I'm not contemplating Amanda's and Sam's little string of bright moments in the deepening morass of season 9, I'm forced to concoct my own 'points of interest' with regards to the show. And, me being the Sam fan that I am, what I dream up is all about Sam.

I've decided to offer these 'points of interest' as a sort of apology to the thread for my inability to sustain an attitude of sweet and selfless concern with regards to season 9, or one of sweetly abiding optimism for Season 10. These are what might be termed 'fan fantasies' of what's going on in the Stargate reality in those intriguing places where the cameras don't go - or, at least, haven't gone - in Season 9.

I've decided, in those personal glosses and addendums to the action on screen in Season 9, that Sam is still in command of R & D out of Area 51, and that's a big part of why she's given so little to do in terms of plot and character-development. She's actually primarily occupied with Area 51, and so, has less time and energy for Stargate Command - and, given that her time and energy appear to be less valued and utilized than in days gone by, that's probably just as well.

Given Sam's personal history and associated backstory - building the F-301 and F-302, enthusing over, examining, repairing, and flying alien space ships - I doubt the Mark-this-that-and-the-next-thing warheads are her primary interest, or even primary responsibility, at 51. I think she's designing, building and testing spaceships. The Tau'ri still have to achieve that goal of getting their fighters into hyperspace, after all, and Sam has had that photon compression coil under study for 2 years now, plus access to Asgard and Asgard technology. I bet things are really science-fiction-ish at 51 these days, with all kinds of Carter-designed UFO's zipping around the skies over the Groom Lake facility.

When she's not at the starship yards, I suspect Sam is indulging her interest in her very favorite subject (no, not Jack - he's her second favorite subject ) the Stargate itself. Earth probably has a spare Gate or three after Off The Grid, and I bet Sam has been tasked with finding a way to make ZPM's, or replicate their functionality as an energy source. I wouldn't be surprised if that diagram of the makeshift power booster that the Ancient-overlayed O'Neill cobbled together is getting a lot of Carter screen time these days. I suspect, too, that not knowing what the eighth and ninth chevrons on a Stargate are for, or do, has always just yanked Sam's chain something fierce, and she's studied the subject off and on the entire time she's been with the program, and she's studying it now with the added intellectual impetus of going up against what are essentially the Gate builders themselves. I think she's also likely working on ways to make the dialing computer dial faster, and/or some kind of portable dialing device incorporating the idea of the 'wrist dialer' in the self-fulfilling future meeting with Cassie in 1969, and/or Felger's dialing virus' ability to 'take over a DHD or a segment of the gate network. With the idea of Anubis' 'call forwarding' device in hand, there's the shape of an assault weapon peeping through in there - a means of programming any Gate to hold incoming data and do something other than the standard rematerialization with it on command, or to redirect outgoing wormholes to controlled destinations regardless of what's actually dialed, all in a hand held package.

Finally, I think Sam's a seasoned international traveler on this planet now, since she's one of the most logical candidates to track the spare Ba'als still on Earth, or any other Goa'uld who came up with, or copied, the same bright idea. She's been everywhere on the globe rooting out snake nests, and having adventures in the doing, maybe with the rest of the current SG-1 none the wiser. I suspect Jack goes out on a lot of them with her, too. I think Sam's name is becoming well known, and highly respected, as a military officer and black ops specialist amongst the governments of the Tau'ri coalition, with these expeditions, and I think it's going to earn her a position of both greater power and greater prominence in the future - maybe, hopefully, the not so distant future.

[Mandysg1]

Watching Amanda make the absolute most for Sam of what little she's been given to do - and I beg you not to mistake me, because I truly do think she's been as brilliant as she's been incredibly underused - has been just about the sole pleasure I've been able to take in this season 9 of Stargate in the form in which it's actually been broadcast.

Other than Amanda... honestly, I've reached the point where the vast majority of the entertainment I derive from Stargate actually comes from mocking it - and Gods, they make it almost too easy for even that to be much fun, with the abyssmal level to which the writing, plotting, directing, characterizations, accuracy, logic, coherence and ongoing continuity of the show has sunk.

So, if I'm not contemplating Amanda's and Sam's little string of bright moments in the deepening morass of season 9, I'm forced to concoct my own 'points of interest' with regards to the show. And, me being the Sam fan that I am, what I dream up is all about Sam.

I've decided to offer these 'points of interest' as a sort of apology to the thread for my inability to sustain an attitude of sweet and selfless concern with regards to season 9, or one of sweetly abiding optimism for Season 10. These are what might be termed 'fan fantasies' of what's going on in the Stargate reality in those intriguing places where the cameras don't go - or, at least, haven't gone - in Season 9.

I've decided, in those personal glosses and addendums to the action on screen in Season 9, that Sam is still in command of R & D out of Area 51, and that's a big part of why she's given so little to do in terms of plot and character-development. She's actually primarily occupied with Area 51, and so, has less time and energy for Stargate Command - and, given that her time and energy appear to be less valued and utilized than in days gone by, that's probably just as well.

Given Sam's personal history and associated backstory - building the F-301 and F-302, enthusing over, examining, repairing, and flying alien space ships - I doubt the Mark-this-that-and-the-next-thing warheads are her primary interest, or even primary responsibility, at 51. I think she's designing, building and testing spaceships. The Tau'ri still have to achieve that goal of getting their fighters into hyperspace, after all, and Sam has had that photon compression coil under study for 2 years now, plus access to Asgard and Asgard technology. I bet things are really science-fiction-ish at 51 these days, with all kinds of Carter-designed UFO's zipping around the skies over the Groom Lake facility.

When she's not at the starship yards, I suspect Sam is indulging her interest in her very favorite subject (no, not Jack - he's her second favorite subject ) the Stargate itself. Earth probably has a spare Gate or three after Off The Grid, and I bet Sam has been tasked with finding a way to make ZPM's, or replicate their functionality as an energy source. I wouldn't be surprised if that diagram of the makeshift power booster that the Ancient-overlayed O'Neill cobbled together is getting a lot of Carter screen time these days. I suspect, too, that not knowing what the eighth and ninth chevrons on a Stargate are for, or do, has always just yanked Sam's chain something fierce, and she's studied the subject off and on the entire time she's been with the program, and she's studying it now with the added intellectual impetus of going up against what are essentially the Gate builders themselves. I think she's also likely working on ways to make the dialing computer dial faster, and/or some kind of portable dialing device incorporating the idea of the 'wrist dialer' in the self-fulfilling future meeting with Cassie in 1969, and/or Felger's dialing virus' ability to 'take over a DHD or a segment of the gate network. With the idea of Anubis' 'call forwarding' device in hand, there's the shape of an assault weapon peeping through in there - a means of programming any Gate to hold incoming data and do something other than the standard rematerialization with it on command, or to redirect outgoing wormholes to controlled destinations regardless of what's actually dialed, all in a hand held package.

Finally, I think Sam's a seasoned international traveler on this planet now, since she's one of the most logical candidates to track the spare Ba'als still on Earth, or any other Goa'uld who came up with, or copied, the same bright idea. She's been everywhere on the globe rooting out snake nests, and having adventures in the doing, maybe with the rest of the current SG-1 none the wiser. I suspect Jack goes out on a lot of them with her, too. I think Sam's name is becoming well known, and highly respected, as a military officer and black ops specialist amongst the governments of the Tau'ri coalition, with these expeditions, and I think it's going to earn her a position of both greater power and greater prominence in the future - maybe, hopefully, the not so distant future.

Okay...is there some Stargate SG1 101 class being taught somewhere

[Simhavaktra]

Okay...is there some Stargate SG1 101 class being taught somewhere

Not that I know of - I'm just creating my own entertainment since the series, save for Sam, no longer provides any entertainment beyond mockage for me. Should I take it that it's not entertaining for other onlookers? :worried look: I can make it 'gone' if it's just going to be clutter...

[Mandysg1]

Not that I know of - I'm just creating my own entertainment since the series, save for Sam, no longer provides any entertainment beyond mockage for me. Should I take it that it's not entertaining for other onlookers? :worried look: I can make it 'gone' if it's just going to be clutter...

I was just kidding Sim, I actually can't believe you so much about the science of the show it astounds me. Now I know where to go when I have questions

Like this one about Arthur's Mantle

Spoiler:

Why didn't Sam and Cam fall through the floor?

[Simhavaktra]

I was just kidding Sim, I actually can't believe you so much about the science of the show it astounds me. Now I know where to go when I have questions

Like this one about Arthur's Mantle

Spoiler:

Why didn't Sam and Cam fall through the floor?

Because no one did any research into the science of writing?

I'm guessing that if I were forced to explain it, I'd go for something like

Spoiler:

the Merlin device and the Crystal Skull alien device use gravitons for a control or functional limiter of some kind, whereas the alternate dimension is actually an artificial construct with highly contrived functionality - you just don't end up there, 'there' has extremely precise specifications, and was very carefully and deliberately constructed to behave in a certain manner with regards to gravity. It would probably work in such a manner that any gravity source presenting a sufficient gravity field/deformation of space time (sufficient that the out of phase person would perceive it to be one G of regular gravity) produces a distortion/feedback in the subspace field emitted by the device so that both gravity and solidity are simulated in the alternate dimension for the locale of that gravity source. Thus, if Teal'c had been EVA near an asteroid, and tried to brain Mitchell with the asteroid, which would have its own gravity field, and thus provoke the simulation of gravity by the device, for the alternate dimension, Mitchell would feel that. But, a fist and a P90 don't have enough gravity to produce the simulation effect in the alternate dimension, and so, through the airhead they go. Actually, I what I want to know is how they breathe in that alternate dimension - shouldn't the atmospheric molecules go right through their lungs and everything when they try to breathe? Or do I now have to figure an opposite, sort of 'low molecular density' passthrough from the real universe to the alternate, too, where things with sufficiently small mass exist in both dimensions simultaneously??? Quick! Dose Mitchell with nitrous oxide so I can see what happens - but, then again, he's giddy already, so how will I be able to tell....

[majorsal]

Watching Amanda make the absolute most for Sam of what little she's been given to do - and I beg you not to mistake me, because I truly do think she's been as brilliant as she's been incredibly underused - has been just about the sole pleasure I've been able to take in this season 9 of Stargate in the form in which it's actually been broadcast.

(snippage)

wonderful post, sim!

i couldn't green you, but i wanted to you to know i thought what you said was great.

why can't WE - sam fans - do the writing for sam carter?




sally

[Mandysg1]

Because no one did any research into the science of writing?

I'm guessing that if I were forced to explain it, I'd go for something like

Spoiler:

the Merlin device and the Crystal Skull alien device use gravitons for a control or functional limiter of some kind, whereas the alternate dimension is actually an artificial construct with highly contrived functionality - you just don't end up there, 'there' has extremely precise specifications, and was very carefully and deliberately constructed to behave in a certain manner with regards to gravity. It would probably work in such a manner that any gravity source presenting a sufficient gravity field/deformation of space time (sufficient that the out of phase person would perceive it to be one G of regular gravity) produces a distortion/feedback in the subspace field emitted by the device so that both gravity and solidity are simulated in the alternate dimension for the locale of that gravity source. Thus, if Teal'c had been EVA near an asteroid, and tried to brain Mitchell with the asteroid, which would have its own gravity field, and thus provoke the simulation of gravity by the device, for the alternate dimension, Mitchell would feel that. But, a fist and a P90 don't have enough gravity to produce the simulation effect in the alternate dimension, and so, through the airhead they go. Actually, I what I want to know is how they breathe in that alternate dimension - shouldn't the atmospheric molecules go right through their lungs and everything when they try to breathe? Or do I now have to figure an opposite, sort of 'low molecular density' passthrough from the real universe to the alternate, too, where things with sufficiently small mass exist in both dimensions simultaneously??? Quick! Dose Mitchell with nitrous oxide so I can see what happens - but, then again, he's giddy already, so how will I be able to tell....

Wow thanks for clearing that up for me
Now for a more difficult question: Are you going to be wearing the official outfit

[Simhavaktra]

Wow thanks for clearing that up for me
Now for a more difficult question: Are you going to be wearing the official outfit

Hate to tell ya this, but - flowery shirts (even flowery shirts with leopard trim) just don't occur in my wardrobe. Flowery things don't occur in my wardrobe. I'll stick to the sort-of-spangly cerise halter top and jeans.

Simha
(out of uniform again....)

[ranchan2]

I saw this topic was on the second page and I felt the need to bring it back over to the first.

Just so this won't seem like a bump-up post I'd also like to add that I loved Amanda's performance in Arthur's Mantle. Even though we really haven't been getting any Sam-centric episodes this season, I'm enjoying that we're seeing a lighter side of the character. I see more jokes, laughs, smiles and generally a more relaxed Sam this season and I love it.

[Myrth]

See I just figured other dimensions have floors too

What I would like to know tho is how Daniel got to the mental hospital in Crystal Skull... he couldn't sit in the car now could he?

Because no one did any research into the science of writing?

I'm guessing that if I were forced to explain it, I'd go for something like

Spoiler:

the Merlin device and the Crystal Skull alien device use gravitons for a control or functional limiter of some kind, whereas the alternate dimension is actually an artificial construct with highly contrived functionality - you just don't end up there, 'there' has extremely precise specifications, and was very carefully and deliberately constructed to behave in a certain manner with regards to gravity. It would probably work in such a manner that any gravity source presenting a sufficient gravity field/deformation of space time (sufficient that the out of phase person would perceive it to be one G of regular gravity) produces a distortion/feedback in the subspace field emitted by the device so that both gravity and solidity are simulated in the alternate dimension for the locale of that gravity source. Thus, if Teal'c had been EVA near an asteroid, and tried to brain Mitchell with the asteroid, which would have its own gravity field, and thus provoke the simulation of gravity by the device, for the alternate dimension, Mitchell would feel that. But, a fist and a P90 don't have enough gravity to produce the simulation effect in the alternate dimension, and so, through the airhead they go. Actually, I what I want to know is how they breathe in that alternate dimension - shouldn't the atmospheric molecules go right through their lungs and everything when they try to breathe? Or do I now have to figure an opposite, sort of 'low molecular density' passthrough from the real universe to the alternate, too, where things with sufficiently small mass exist in both dimensions simultaneously??? Quick! Dose Mitchell with nitrous oxide so I can see what happens - but, then again, he's giddy already, so how will I be able to tell....

[ranchan2]

Maybe Daniel just heard they were going there and got a head start and started running. That sounds pretty silly though.