Sam Carter/Amanda Tapping Discussion/Appreciation

[jckfan55]

And of course the first ep of S8 sealed it, that 8 years into the show and much experience writing these characters and arcs.... here comes Sam, *fresh* from “mind rape” being plopped out of the ship, smiling up at the guys and acting like *nothing* happened.

Just taking a piece of your fine post. I sure thought they should have shown some consequences of that experience. There she was in the last scene throwing out lines casually like "who knows when 5th and the other replicators might turn up." It would sure have helped explain Gemini, as well, IMHO.

[Mandysg1]

Just taking a piece of your fine post. I sure thought they should have shown some consequences of that experience. There she was in the last scene throwing out lines casually like "who knows when 5th and the other replicators might turn up." It would sure have helped explain Gemini, as well, IMHO.

I guess that's where fanfic comes in, to fill in the gaps (gaps the size of the Grand Canyon)

[Uber]

I realize what you are saying and this wasn't really the point, but it was Mitchell in his shorts...

Although my comment was a bit snarky, I have to admit...

Spoiler:

he SO looked hot in his shorts. And two BEN'S in his shorts?!???? Yummy.

But had I put that in the post, it probably would have taken away from the point I was trying to make.

[Mandysg1]

Although my comment was a bit snarky, I have to admit...

Spoiler:

he SO looked hot in his shorts. And two BEN'S in his shorts?!???? Yummy.

But had I put that in the post, it probably would have taken away from the point I was trying to make.

See how far TPTB will go to get us to like Cam

[Qasim]

See how far TPTB will go to get us to like Cam

Seems to be working judging from Über's response

[Uber]

Seems to be working judging from Über's response

Sorry...that's for Ben in his yummy shorts. Still don't care much for Mitchell.

I'm glad to see Sam does though. Maybe that will help me warm to him more.

[Mandysg1]

I just have to make a comment on GW's article about the ratings leveling off and bouncing back for Jan 20.

Hmm? I wonder which episode could have caused this

[Uber]

I wouldn't want to see anyone write a rape story period. I think the gender of the author is completely irrelevant as well.
I fail to see the enjoyment factor of exploring how multiple rapes affect the character.
Sorry to sound judgemental, but I find the thought of it sick.

I don't really agree with this either.

I think one thing that SG-1 seriously, SERIOUSLY needs is a woman writer on staff because women writers TEND to write more of the deeper interpersonal moments that people connect with.

This is not universal, nor does it mean men can't do great interpersonal relationships. Exhibit A...Brad Wright.

But, women do tend at least to see beyond the story arc to the deeper meanings for the characters and pick up on those subtle, nuanced beats that add layers and layers of depth to moments.

P.S. I'd be happy to write for Bridge if they want...you know, just to prove my point.

[Strix varia]

I don't really agree with this either.

I think one thing that SG-1 seriously, SERIOUSLY needs is a woman writer on staff because women writers TEND to write more of the deeper interpersonal moments that people connect with.

This is not universal, nor does it mean men can't do great interpersonal relationships. Exhibit A...Brad Wright.

But, women do tend at least to see beyond the story arc to the deeper meanings for the characters and pick up on those subtle, nuanced beats that add layers and layers of depth to moments.

P.S. I'd be happy to write for Bridge if they want...you know, just to prove my point.

Yeah, you know, I think you'd have a hard time backing that statement up in any sort of concrete, definitive fashion, even in regards to tendencies. I can think of a lot of male writers (of scripts and books) throughout history who do a damn fine job with interpersonal moments. And conversely, I can think of a lot of female writers (particularly of fiction) who write completely shallow fluff that has no deep meaning whatsoever.

Some male writers write women very well, some don't. Some women writers have a very hard time writing believable men. I think good writers can do both genders justice... that's one of the things that makes them good. For that reason, it's often not possible to tell the gender of a good writer.

A good writer will find the truths that resonate with their audience, and talent has a lot more to do with their ability to find those special truths than with their gender.

Just my $.02

[Skydiver]

having a female writer wouldn't be a super fixit simply because anything she writes has to survive the director, producer, editor adn the network....and they've shown that they prefer bombs, butts and boobs to anything deep and meaningful

to me, we had nice personal moments back when brad was running things. brad has the Touch....rob lacks that and is too easily distracted by 'bigger'

[minigeek]

Yeah, you know, I think you'd have a hard time backing that statement up in any sort of concrete, definitive fashion, even in regards to tendencies. I can think of a lot of male writers (of scripts and books) throughout history who do a damn fine job with interpersonal moments. And conversely, I can think of a lot of female writers (particularly of fiction) who write completely shallow fluff that has no deep meaning whatsoever.

Some male writers write women very well, some don't. Some women writers have a very hard time writing believable men. I think good writers can do both genders justice... that's one of the things that makes them good. For that reason, it's often not possible to tell the gender of a good writer.

A good writer will find the truths that resonate with their audience, and talent has a lot more to do with their ability to find those special truths than with their gender.

Just my $.02

I think that's true. However, with due respect, I think there's also a "politically correct" mandate these days that demands we establish an absolute equality where these sorts of things are concerned.

While I can agree with what you're saying regarding the fact that there are very insightful writers to be found among both male and female groups, I also feel that ... there's a bigger rule of thumb when it comes to art (like writing) which says: "Write what you know." Same thing goes for acting, etc. Of course, you don't have to have been through every situation you try and write (or act), but you do have to research the people who have been through it and try to analyze the kinds of emotions at play such that you can tap into those types of emotions in order to create a believable product (written or performed).

So we have the caveat "write what you know". In the mire of a "PC World", we sometimes lose sight of the essential differences between male and female genders which are simply biological. Women do feel differently, in certain situations, given certain situational and biological motivators, than men do, for example. That's a simple fact of biology as much as it is a fact of gender stereotype.

Of course that doesn't mean that one gender cannot accurately empathize with another, or research a topic and write about it regardless, but it does mean (I think), that there are *certain* very specific sorts of topics which would tend to be better articulated by a woman, than a man, and vice versa.

There's a small dose of truth in the satirical stereotype that men and women deal with their feelings and emotions differently, so I think having a balance of male and female writers on any show is of definite benefit, regardless. There are certain subjects a man is just not going to automatically see the same way a woman does, and that's where the balance of POV can come in very handy. Even if the man is extraordinarily sensitive to his "female side". The same is true in the reverse.

Issues like childbirth, motherhood and certain aspects of female physicality FEEL different in a woman's point-of-view than they do in a man's. There are similar emotions at play, certainly, but they're not the identical. That's just a biological fact. Which is, I think, what Oooberness was getting at. Only experience and exposure allows us to empathize with one another male<-->female.

I guess, if we never tackle those specific issues, it doesn't matter whether a man or a woman writes/articulates them or not. But if we do... then I beg to argue, with great respect for the eloquence of both sexes in writing, that certain stories and scenarios are more powerfully grasped by certain genders.

mini

[SunKrux]

Sorry to interrupt the deep discussions happening here, but I was wondering if there was a group effort to make Amanda another con book for the Vancouver con? I plan on attending it and would love to head up that project, if it's not already been taken care of. I've done con books in the past for various actors at the FS cons so it's not a big deal to me.

[Mandysg1]

Sorry to interrupt the deep discussions happening here, but I was wondering if there was a group effort to make Amanda another con book for the Vancouver con? I plan on attending it and would love to head up that project, if it's not already been taken care of. I've done con books in the past for various actors at the FS cons so it's not a big deal to me.

Sorry to sound like such a newbie, but what's a con book

[Qasim]

Sorry to sound like such a newbie, but what's a con book

A book with fan messages, fanfic, fanart etc in it which is given to an actor at a convention

[jckfan55]

having a female writer wouldn't be a super fixit simply because anything she writes has to survive the director, producer, editor adn the network....and they've shown that they prefer bombs, butts and boobs to anything deep and meaningful

to me, we had nice personal moments back when brad was running things. brad has the Touch....rob lacks that and is too easily distracted by 'bigger'

I agree about Brad Wright. Not that RCC is a bad writer, I love some of his stories, but there are certain things he does better than others. BW has the vision of what SG1 really is, IMHO. As for female writers, it would sure help to get that other perspective. But I think it's not a matter of any old woman writer. What I (and others here) have continually said, is that they just need some new viewpoints by people who understand Stargate. I think it being on Showtime to start with gave the writers etc. a lot more freedom to write some intelligent science fiction stories, with action and humor elements, rather than stereotypical "spandex SciFi." This is not to say all the early stories were perfect, but at least there was usually some interesting concept. Now I wonder if we have writers and network types who have sort of conspired to pander to the teenage boy audience.

Edit: Can you imagine one of my favorite episodes, "Solitudes," in the current mindset? They wouldn't have been trapped in the Antarctic, it would have been some deserted tropical island. And Sam, of course, would have had half her clothes torn off in the rough ride through the gate.