Sam Carter/Jack O'Neill Ship Discussion Thread

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i was reading a s/j fic and jack calls pete "petro" i just wish i knew the name of that fic.

[hlndncr]

Trying to catch up on the rewatch.

Going back to Forever in a Day.

Eh, nothing much shipp so not a fav. I agree with everything selene said about the ep and about Sha're. She was a much better character in the movie and I far preferred that actress.

This was Jonathan Glassner's favorite script he wrote. I think of his scripts Shades of Grey was probably the best, IMHO.

Personally, I think the whole story is too clever by half and leads to so many of the problems in the ep. There is so much about it that makes no sense from beginning to end. I won't even get into listing it all.

I think the whole thing would have been vastly improved if it all really happened. That way the character development would be real. I think the writers even forgot it wasn't real because Rothman was introduced here and later they act like we always knew him and not that his intro to the team was a figment of Daniel's imagination. Or was it Sha're's/Ammonet's imagination?

Anyone notice Daniel was wearing his "ascended sweater"?

The other problem with this ep is that they wanted to wrap up the Sha're storyline having done nothing with it in the first place. Then they had to give Daniel another reason to be out their so they brought in the harsesis idea, which also makes no sense and they again basically did nothing with.

So good things:

1. Good views of Jack's Six!
2. Sam kicks butt.
3. Daniel has the coolest birthday ever! (At least I think he does. Or maybe he imagined he has the coolest birthday ever because who wouldn't dream of sharing a B-day with me?)
4. Bringing in the Egyptian mythology to the funeral was a great call back to the Abydonian's origins.
5. I like the purple planet.

[Sparky She-Demon]

by hlndncr

Summary: The Tok'ra Martouf arrives at the SGC with bad news: Jacob Carter and Selmak have been captured by Sokar and imprisoned on the hellish moon known as Netu. Jacob and Selmak have information that the Tok'ra need. A rescue mission is necessary. Except for one small detail: No one has ever escaped from Netu. No one that is, except Jolinar.

Comments:

I was looking forward to this episode, as I'd heard a lot of good things about it. I was also looking forward to another episode with the Tok'ra. Well one in particular anyway... But it was a well rounded episode, definetely much better than the last season three episode I watched, Demons.

I also found the memory device to be an interesting gadget. It doesn't just show you the memories, you're actually feeling what's going on. Ex: Sam feeling Jolinar getting the pain stick (I don't remember the other name for it).

Sam and Jack: This episode had a lot of shippiness. There is this scene:



One of the few times that we actually see Jack being jealous over the fact that other men can show interest in her. Especially this man in particular.

When Sam has the memory device on her and feels the pain stick, and Jack tells Martouf to turn it off. And shortly thereafter, Jack has a conversation with Martouf about taking it a little more easy with the memory device, saying that if someone's escaped before, people can escape again.

Episode Rating: 9.5 I really enjoyed the episode, it was a good one throughout. Especially that ending where we find out who Naonak really is! This is definetely one of my favorite episodes I've seen so far.

Shippiness Rating: The shippiness is noticeable, but it's not really up in your face. I'd give it a 7-8 on the shippiness scale.

[fems]

Nice review, Sparky.

[Samantha-Carter-is-my-muse]

Thanks for the nice review, Sparky. I like the episode. Very much. That often happens when an ep is Sam centered

[Sparky She-Demon]

I think it is obvious that I like this episode, don't you think?

[SaraBahama]

Good review, Sparky. I need to go rewatch before adding my thoughts.

[Sparky She-Demon]

by Achaja

Summary:During the attempt to rescue Jacob and Selmak, SG-1 and Martouf are captured by Sokar's first prime Naonak. Turns out "Naonak" is none other than their old enemy Apophis. He proceeds to torture them for information to give to Sokar in exchange for his release. Using the memory recall device along with a liquid hallucinogen known as "The Blood of Sokar", infiltrates the memories of SG-1 and Martouf, masquerading as people that are important to them. Apophis masquerades as Jacob in Sam's memories to try and find a way around Earth's iris. With Jack, he poses as Charlie to try and get the location of the Asgard home world. When it comes to Martouf, he does not do the impersonation himself, but uses Sam in the place of Jolinar. Here it seems that he's succeeded in getting infomation out of him. But Martouf tricked Apophis. With Daniel, he masquerades as Jack to find out where Amonet sent the harcesis child.

Comments: Again this was another very interesting episode to watch. I loved it when Teal'c manages to subdue Aldwin and is able to rescue everyone and destroy Sokar.

Apophis's level of nastiness in this episode (though he's always nasty) is higher than it used to be. Masquerading as the various loved ones... the one that I hated the most was when he was impersonating Charlie with O'Neill.

Another was the shippy moment when Jack tried to stop the denizens from taking Sam to Apophis and getting a staff blast to his knee for his troubles.

I also liked it when we find out that Martouf tricked Apophis about the location of the Tok'ra resistance.

Episode Rating:I'd give this episode a 8-8.5 rating. It was still an excellent episode, but the previous one was better in my opinion.

Sam/Jack Shippiness: This episode is an 8.5-9 on the shippiness scale. The obvious shippy moment of Jack trying to stop Sam from being taken to Apophis is what gets the episode higher than "Jolinar's Memories".

Really liked both of the episodes, loved the team work, loved the S/J, and of course my favorite Tok'ra.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

Bringing it forward:

Season 3 Rewatch
May 19 - Into The Fire - SGSuzi
May 24 – Seth - RamonathePest
May 29 - Fair Game - hlndncr
June 3- Legacy – neverendingimagination
June 8 - Learning Curve – meredithe5
June 13 - Point of View – Selene0789
June 18 - Deadman Switch - SaraBahama
June 23 – Demons – Sparky She-Demon
June 28 - Rules of Engagement - LCJS
July 3 - Forever in a Day - selene0789
July 8 - Past and Present - Ikorni
July 13 - Jolinar’s Memories / The Devil You Know – Sparky She-Demon
July 18 – Foothold - LCJS
July 23 – Pretense – meredithe5
July 28 – Urgo - SGSuzi
August 2- A Hundred Days - hlndncr
August 7- Shades of Grey - selene0789
August 12 – New Ground - LCJS
August 17 – Maternal Instinct – Selene0789
August 22 – Crystal Skull - neverendingimagination
August 27 – Nemesis - ikorni

[Sparky She-Demon]

I'd like Upgrades. Yet another Tok'ra episode! Since the chances of me getting "Divide and Conquer" are pretty slim.

[AmberLM]

Believe it was a Shiba Inu I read recently whose dog it was, but can't remember. But not RDA's, that I do remember.

I think it belonged to a young fan who's wish it was to get her dog on SG-1 (a Make-A-Wish foundation wish, I think!)

The dog in "New Order" that was in the yard at the farm when Sam came out of the house was one of RDA's as well.

Even when she's dreaming of it's still Jack's dog lol!

[Gatetrixer]

Well, now I do know more about the dog. His name was Boomer and he was owned by a woman who had a brain tumor. The Make-a-Wish foundation asked for her wish--her wish was that Boomer be on TV. He first did a commercial, then was on some TV shows including SG-1 in Singularity and on an X-Files episode, and more.

Quite a story.

Previous post about the shiba inu..

[Jack4Sam]

Even when she's dreaming of it's still Jack's dog lol!

[AmberLM]

Believe it was a Shiba Inu I read recently whose dog it was, but can't remember. But not RDA's, that I do remember.

The dog in "New Order" that was in the yard at the farm when Sam came out of the house was one of RDA's as well.

One of my oh's (foreign) colleagues made a comment to him about wanting to be her "husband's dog" because he cared for his dog so much and spoiled it rotten - obviously she didn't get the double-entendre! For some reason it made me think of this

[Samantha-Carter-is-my-muse]

Apophis's level of nastiness in this episode (though he's always nasty) is higher than it used to be. Masquerading as the various loved ones... the one that I hated the most was when he was impersonating Charlie with O'Neill.

Apophis was indeed pretty nasty in this episode, using Sam to get to Martouf was a brilliant move even though it failed to work.

Even when she's dreaming of it's still Jack's dog lol!