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    Originally posted by freyr's mother View Post
    No they arent. Their tanks pwnd ours in WWII, but these days things are different. Our abrams tanks are protected by god knows how many inches of depleted uranium armor and in addition to that, it fires depleted uranium shells. It has a pretty good speed when you consider it weighs 65 tons.
    The Leopard 2 tanks that Germany run are widely regarded as the best tanks in the world.

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      I thought the British challenger II tanks was the best in the world.

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        me 2, i always thought the CII was the best.
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          Originally posted by immhotep View Post
          me 2, i always thought the CII was the best.
          Well only the Abrahms has been in actual combat.
          On paper the Leopard II and Challenger II are better.
          The Leopard II and the Challenger II are both good tanks. Only in battle will the best be determined.

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            Originally posted by An-Alteran View Post
            Well only the Abrahms has been in actual combat.
            On paper the Leopard II and Challenger II are better.
            The Leopard II and the Challenger II are both good tanks. Only in battle will the best be determined.

            Well just to upset you, the challenger 2 has been used in combat, in Iraq
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              Can i jsut ask you all to stop talking about tanks and ablative armour, this thread is about ship design so if you want to talk abotu tanks then make another thread. Sorry but were a little offtopic and its kiling the thread.
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                Do you think that it is completely wise to rely on the stargate system to send our troops to where they are needed? Wouldn't it be better to send most of them by ship? Or at least a large force to secure the area around the stargate to ensure that the troops coming from Earth would have a place to fall back on in case of emergency?

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                  Thats why i created the Atlantis and ATS craft's, as a ship based delivery system for large numbers of troops. Rather than relying on the gate.
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                    Which page is that on? I must have missed it.

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                      http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...is#post5878820 - the Atlantis

                      cant find the origional but:
                      New design

                      Name: A.T.S (Amphibious Troop Transport Shuttle)
                      Type: short range armed transport shuttle
                      Technology base: Human
                      Operators: USAF
                      Class: Dropship

                      Hull: Heavy trinium/titanium plating
                      Decks: 2
                      Dimensions: L18m H6m W10m

                      Crew:
                      ~Maximum Personnel: 160
                      ~Troops: 150
                      Vehicles: 8x, 16x, 24x dirtbike ( instead of 50, 100, 150 troops respectively) or 4 Humvees instead

                      of 150 troops
                      Craft: none; can be fitted with UAV launch and recovery system.

                      Engines: 7 Earth/Hebridan ion trusters.
                      Powerplant: 1x Mark I naquadah reactor

                      Armament/Weapons: 5x single used A/A missiles, 2x Defensive rail guns

                      Defences: Heavy trinium armour plating (80% staff blast proof, like the PJ's was in moebius)


                      Technical and Historical Notes:
                      The ATS were designed to be the primary method of troop deployment within the earth military engagments for the future. the war with the Ori and thier ever growing army meant that earth needed more people on the ground fighting them. Just as the jaffa were the glaactic footsoldiers of the previous generation, earth vowed to make its soldiers the footsoldier of this generation.
                      ATS is simply designed to be a method of getting a large force of marines or arm personal from our capitol ships to the battlefield, quickly, safely and alive.
                      in additon to being a transport ship the ATS is also a scout ship, search and rescue ship, "space ambulence" and mobile bunker.
                      The weapons on the ATS are not formidable but the two different S/A weapon systems make it able to fend off aerial attacks from fighters while giving troops a mobile platform from which to work. There are 3 hatched dirrectly behind the cockpit which give access to the roof, these hatches allow troops to fire from within the craft while still being protected by the 'staff proof' plating and glass systems. The ship, while carrying troops can also be used in much the role helicopters are used in the army today and therefore this is a mulitpurpose craft in the trueest sense.
                      One of its uses in search and rescue, and modification can be made, enhanced sensors, UAV launchers and full rescue gear. ( including teams of dogs and bikes can be taken to the surface) The craft is fully water tight and has powerfull submersive ability ( 800ft below the surface); it also has powerful spotlight at the front to aid in all its functions.
                      The ATS has been made a compulsary support vessel on all our ships because its versitility is limitless when it comes to ground based activty of any kind.

                      Theres the newest design
                      Immhotep
                      there ya go.
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                        OK Immhotep here is a ship for you to look over, its for the fleet a civilian ship. Do comment.

                        My luxury cruiser for commercial use.

                        Spoiler:
                        Name: The Angel

                        Type: Long range, luxury cruiser

                        Technology base: Tau’ri/Asgard

                        Operators: Humans

                        Naval Classification: Commercial Cruiser
                        Hull: The hull is two meters thick made of a Trinium/Carbon alloy

                        Decks: There are 50 decks aboard the ship, each of them are 3 meters high.

                        Dimensions:
                        >> Height: 154m
                        >> Beam: 1000m
                        >> Length: 2500m

                        Displacement: 9,240,000 metric tons

                        Crew: The ship has a crew of 2000, with a staff of 5000. The Angel has a passenger capacity of 50000

                        Craft: None other than life boats in case of emergency

                        Vehicles: None at present time

                        Power plant: Five Mark VII Naquada Generators

                        Engines:
                        >> Twenty Ion Drives
                        >> Three Asgard/Tau’ri Hyperdrives
                        >> Inertial Dampeners

                        Performance:
                        >> Maximum Acceleration: 65 PSL
                        >> Maximum Hyperspace Velocity: 20000 light-years/hour
                        >> Hyperspace Generator Recharge Rate: 15 seconds between jumps

                        Armament/Weapons:
                        >> None

                        Defences:
                        >> Tau’ri shields

                        Other Technology:
                        >> Asgard Beaming technology
                        >> Twenty ring transporters
                        >> Large scale communications and sensors

                        Technical and Historical Notes:

                        After the public acknowledgement of the Stargate programme and commercialisation of space, a private investor began looking into space travel as a business, he hired the best scientific minds to create a luxury cruiser which would accommodate paid passengers. They designed the Angel, a large scale ship capable of holding a vast number of passengers in the most luxurious way possible. Using technology available and using government contacts the Angel is the most advanced commercial cruiser available.
                        Last edited by fallen_arbiter; 20 November 2006, 12:14 PM.
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                          it's pretty good, but it has too many power generators
                          Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                            Originally posted by Buba uognarf View Post
                            it's pretty good, but it has too many power generators
                            Not anymore. Just five now. Wasn't sure how many.
                            Meet the Karn, the true race of the stars.

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                              k, it's also very big...it may be cheaper and more economic to produce lots of smaller ones, but it's a matter of opinion
                              Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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                                Its good but way too large. A small ship, the size of the deadalus would be more suitable. If your intention is for it to the space borne equivalent of the cruise ship, the deadalus is much larger than any on the ocean today. Just make it reasonable. If its luxury, then its exclusive, and if its exclusive then you dont need lots of room for lots of people. If you can charge 100 people an extortionate amount, but only get those 100 people, then you have wasted 4900 spaces on board. Wheras if you make it designed to cater for 100 high class, rich and powerfull geust that expect to pay for what they get and you can deliver, you would probley make a much higher return on your investment.
                                Also where is this cruiser liner going. Because anywhere in this galaxy is a maximum of 5 days. Barely enough to savour the delights of such a craft, if its any good. Best idea would be to set up a Sister "hotel" somewhere in Pegasus, you get a long journey on the luxury ship and then Pay to explore a new galaxy in extreame pamper and comfort, probley on the most stunning totally unique planet in the universe.

                                If your going for luxury, make sure its luxury, luxury doesnt mean big, its means luxury.
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