Original Starship Design Thread

[Aroura-Gate]

Thats A-some looking man you do great work

[Sam fisher]

Okay, thanks for answering my question about the missiles, I just have two more questions. 1. How many rail guns are on the Daedalus? 2. Would normal guns work in space?

[benjaminism]

Okay, thanks for answering my question about the missiles, I just have two more questions. 1. How many rail guns are on the Daedalus? 2. Would normal guns work in space?

Normal guns wouldn't work in space as they need oxygen to work. Can't help you with the railguns.

[cooky]

Okay, thanks for answering my question about the missiles, I just have two more questions. 1. How many rail guns are on the Daedalus? 2. Would normal guns work in space?

1. Unknown. Estimates run between 4 and 8. Could be more than that.

2. Yes, though not without modification. Normal guns require oxygen to fire, so each gun would need an oxygen suply to function.

[Aroura-Gate]

Heres my new ship HEPHAESTUS

Here’s my Orbital and Deep Space Refit and Repair ship I need a good name for it so if any body can think of one that would be helpful

Crew: A crew big enough to build to ships engineers, workers, technicians and the materials to restock and rebuild the ships

Armor: Active Battle Armor system that polarizes the hull of the ship when in coming plasma blasts are detected.

Shielding: Standard Asgard shields from a 304

Sub light: 4 Standard Engines from a 304 and 5 small thruster

Hyper Drive: Standard Hyper Drive from a 304

Weapons: 12 large Rail guns, 24 vertical missile lunch tubes


Scanners: Asgard Sensor array 2 Advanced Search and Recovery arrays

Description: Large Square Plate like Ship big enough to dock with two human starships. 50 decks in total, 40 in between the refit bays to hold all supplies for refit and for on ship use, crew quarters are also located here. The other 10 decks are used in the bridge tower. The docking Clamps are 5 decks tall to ensure proper and secure docking. Weapons are not intended for offensive use, but to defend it’s self if it comes under fire, not made for a prolonged firefight so in order to avoid such a situation, the ship is to fire and open a hyper space window and jump through. This ship is the largest human starship ever made to allow for docking with every type of human made starship.

[Andrew Joshua Talon]

Wow, that took a while to right out. But here it is, my concept of an Earth Space Carrier

Spoiler:

CVS-310 Denver Class Fleet Carrier

Classification: Carrier; space capable.
Length: 385m
Width: 125m
Height: 52m
Ship's crew: 95
Flight crew: 325
Total Compliment: 420
Defenses: Lockheed Martin Beta Series Energy Shield
Standard Flight Wing: 64
Short term Space-op Flight Wing: 102
Short term Atmo-op Flight Wing: 176
Weapons: 2 8 cell HLS Horizontal Missile Launch System. 6 2.5 inch Rail guns. 12 1.2 inch Rail guns. 4 RAM missile launchers equiped with Block C missiles.
Asgard transporters.
LM/Northrop mark 1 radar/sensor package.
External flight deck with 5 catipults to maintain flight ops in atmosphere.
3 Aircraft elevators between internal and external flight decks.

The first 310, the Denver was launched June 4th, 2010 from Newport News Shipyards. She carried a compliment of 40 F-302's, 12 F-302A's and 12 F-307's. The ship was capable of carrying 102 fighters internally, but couldn't maintain that large a compliment with its small flight crew. It wasn't uncommon though for additional fighters to be deployed for single-mission tours. Using temporary shelters, an additional 74 craft could be loaded onto the external flight deck for in-atmosphere use. The Denver was also deployed without shields, the origional shield system failed to work even partially. The system was re-designed from the ground up by Lockheed Martin and the second 310, Augusta was launched with full shield systems. Denver was later refitted with the new shields.

Back story:

P4X-650, 4 months after the invasion of Chulak. Intelligence from the Tok'ra had pinpointed Earth's Alpha site on 650 as the Ori's next target. One Ori ship was believed enroute with orders to subdue the planet. Oddyssey, recently repaired was ordered to the system to begin evacuation of all non-gateable equipment, including the base's 8 F-302 fighters. Oddyssey arrived only an hour ahead of the Ori ship and was unable to complete the evacuation in time. Col. Emerson ordered his entire wing of fighters to deploy in defense of the planet while he used Oddyssey to distract the mothership and delay it from landing.

The tactic worked.

Though Oddyssey took damage, the 302's were able to defeat the Ori's fighter assault and give the Alpha site time to complete the evacuation and initiate self destruct. The battle was proclaimed by some as the first victory over the Ori invasion and a number of America's military leadership (mostly naval officers fealing the navy was being ignored in favor of the 304 program) pointed to the engagement as proof that carrier-based warfare was a supperior strategy for space warfare. The destruction of a Wraith Hive Ship 4 days later by Daedalus, in which 302 fighters played a key role clearing a path for a devestating missile barage added to the evidence supporting their claims.

Congress was unwilling to give funds to develope a new starship with 2 other designs already in developement, so the navy offered a compromise. It would suspend developement of the CVN-21 supercarrier program if all funds would be diverted to developing a space carrier. This would also provide a cover so that the money wouldn't have to be black-book like earth's other starship programs. Publicly the CVN-21 program would continue unchanged, while behind closed doors it would start the developement of Earth's largest starship yet.

R&D was completed in summer of 2008 and the navy was eager to lay down the first ship, but was unable to do so. The hangars used to construct and maintain earth's 304 and 308 ships were to small to hold the new design. And the need to build the ship covertly extended the construction time to nearly 5 years. The program appeared dead, untill the Ori intervened and saved it in one suprising move.

On August 18, 2009, four days after congress officially killed the program, a fleet of 7 Ha'taks crewed by Jaffa loyal to the Ori launched a full scale assault on Earth. Three Daedalus class and five Arnold class ships were present to engage the enemy fleet and succeeded in destroying 4 of the 7 Ha'taks as well as damaging two more. A fifth was destroyed by sustained missile strikes from 302 and 307 squadrons before the Jaffa fled. Damage from the battle itself was suprisingly minimal, damage from the aftermath was not. The shocking images of alien ships in the skies of Colorado and engaging in battle with massive ships baring Air Force markings changed the world forever. Only the quick and successfull defense of Earth prevented world-wide histeria.

With the truth out, the need for secrecy in building Earth's space fleet was gone and the navy obtained Congress's aproval to build its first space carrier. The first of the Denver Class, which would carry the names of U.S. State capitals was layed down just 2 months after the attack and launched 20 months later.

All I can say man, is WOW. SUPER WOW! You do great work!

[freyr's mother]

Normal guns wouldn't work in space as they need oxygen to work. Can't help you with the railguns.

Regular guns WILL work in space because gunpowder contains Postassium nitrate whose chemical formula is KNO3. It has it's own oxygen. Therefore, it will work in space.

[Sam fisher]

Regular guns WILL work in space because gunpowder contains Postassium nitrate whose chemical formula is KNO3. It has it's own oxygen. Therefore, it will work in space.

Sweet. Thank you very much Freyr.

[freyr's mother]

Sweet. Thank you very much Freyr.

No problem.

[benjaminism]

Regular guns WILL work in space because gunpowder contains Postassium nitrate whose chemical formula is KNO3. It has it's own oxygen. Therefore, it will work in space.

Not actually true, the initial reaction to break down the KNO3 into its elements requires heat and oxygen, thus cannot take place in a vacuum, so cannot happen in space.

[freyr's mother]

Not actually true, the initial reaction to break down the KNO3 into its elements requires heat and oxygen, thus cannot take place in a vacuum, so cannot happen in space.

Hello, the gunpowder is encased in a shell, which was manufactured on Earth!

[Aroura-Gate]

all youed have to do is in crees the lenth of the shell and make it air tight to hold air in space

[benjaminism]

Hello, the gunpowder is encased in a shell, which was manufactured on Earth!

Look, normal gunpowder fired shells cannot be fired in space. The chemistry would not work and neither would the physics. The vacuum would play havock with the hole set up.

[Sam fisher]

Should I start a thread about if normal guns can fire in space? That way we can get as many people as we can.

[cooky]

Come to think of it, some guns can be fired underwater, which means no oxygen for combustion save what is in the bullet. So yeah, they can be fired without requiring an oxygen supply.