Original Starship Design Thread

[Merlin1701]

Your ship has a feel of locute's old ship, are you using sketchup?

[Nyrde]

Why yes i am, why do you ask??

[Merlin1701]

nice to see another sketchup user...

[Alx]

Totally agreed, it's fan wrote so I could go on and change it now...like this argument it is only relevent to those that care here. can we just poll camps...who is with 550m + and who is 280m for the length of the deadalus.

that way when we do a model and scale it next to a 304 we will know which is which; that way we stop the argumental problems...we can just label the 304 small and big.

Those in the modelling community cast your votes:

set sun
locutes
semmer
bob
Merlin
SDL
ALX

...any others I cant think of?

PH
Saquist
Titan
colbmista
etc...

oh and i dont understand what do you want me to vote on?

[Nyrde]

ok, i just find it a tad constrictive at times just like there should be optins here and there but there isnt. But i try and do what i can no idea it is any good though.

[Alx]

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Very basic but it has an original feel to it..
have you watched any SU tutorials?

nice to see another sketchup user...

lol merlin SU users grows on trees to bad only a few stick with it and learn all the ends and outs of it tho...

[Nyrde]

Very basic but it has an original feel to it..
have you watched any SU tutorials?

no have never seen any, i just kinda figured stuff out on my own.

[Alx]

no have never seen any, i just kinda figured stuff out on my own.

trail and error is a good start but i recomend you check a few tutorials as it will open some new doors design wise

[Nyrde]

Cheers for the hint, anything you suggest in particular??

[Alx]

Cheers for the hint, anything you suggest in particular??

hmm just serch for sketchup tutorials on youtube

[Saquist]

Ok Here is my fifth scaling of the Daedalus. It's actually four because one is a Hive scaling.



F-302 to Hanger Bay Door

Width of body is = 48.1 feet

250 pixels/48.1 feet = 5.197

436 pixels/ 5.197 = Width of Hanger Door is 83.9 feet

112 pixels/ 5.197 = Height of Hanger Door is 21.5 feet


F-302 to Width of Bay

Width of body is = 48.1 feet

250 pixels/48.1 feet = 5.197

576 pixels/ 5.197 = Width of Bay is = 110.8 feet


Width of Bay to Width and Length of Ship

Width of Bay = 110.8 feet

8 pixels/110.8 feet = 0.072202

55 pixels/ 0.072202 = 761.7 feet

132 pixels/ 0.072202 = 1828.20 feet

Length of Ship is = 1828.20 feet, 557.2 meters

Width of Ship is 761.7 feet, 232.2 meters

My First Daedalus Scaling (revised)-- 582 meters
My Second Daedalus Scaling-- 571.46 meters
My Fourth Daedalus Scaling-- 575.65 meters

Notice anything?

I looked at all the links and I was definitely looking for the orthographic projections and only one of them used face projection. The top and side view.

So you know I've brought this up before. There is only one reliable scaling (the fourth). I was glad to see you had done a scaling using POV vectors but these can be highly flawed since the vertical is foreshortened.

The thing is I've done my own scaling of the ship and it produces similar numbers as yours BUT. I was using the same pictures as you to confirm your numbers. The problem I believe is that every time we see a closeup of the ship the scaling is off. OR almost every time.

SO I would instantly throw out the Sam climbing Mount Daedalus picture because I don't think realisticly they scaled the ship to a human being but I do think they scaled this ship from the fighter requirements from the beginning. In other words...human next to ship is not likely a reliable scaling.

The fighter is the best comparison.
In order to get an accurate scale for the fighter you'll need orthographics aswell. But we don't have that. So I've have pinned the size of the Daedalus between 450-550 meters.

I think your approach is the only way we have but I still don't think the ship was that big.

[locutes]

Your ship has a feel of locute's old ship, are you using sketchup?

It does indeed have some of the same qualities as my old ship's got

[Alx]

Daedalus 2.0
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for some reason they wouldnt Thumb so spoiler tags it is.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmr5IZFsWwQ

An experiment with a simple armature.. and GW's new video tags

[boberth2o]

I looked at all the links and I was definitely looking for the orthographic projections and only one of them used face projection. The top and side view.

So you know I've brought this up before. There is only one reliable scaling (the fourth). I was glad to see you had done a scaling using POV vectors but these can be highly flawed since the vertical is foreshortened.

The thing is I've done my own scaling of the ship and it produces similar numbers as yours BUT. I was using the same pictures as you to confirm your numbers. The problem I believe is that every time we see a closeup of the ship the scaling is off. OR almost every time.

SO I would instantly throw out the Sam climbing Mount Daedalus picture because I don't think realisticly they scaled the ship to a human being but I do think they scaled this ship from the fighter requirements from the beginning. In other words...human next to ship is not likely a reliable scaling.

The fighter is the best comparison.
In order to get an accurate scale for the fighter you'll need orthographics aswell. But we don't have that. So I've have pinned the size of the Daedalus between 450-550 meters.

I think your approach is the only way we have but I still don't think the ship was that big.

Yeah Scaling Number One is controversial due to Camelot, that is why I did the others because I got flak from Battera. In this last one the points meet at the vanishing point and the part I am using is 90 degrees so it is a flat plane to the camera with the fighter. It is probable the most accurate out of the lot.