Original Starship Design Thread

[fallen_arbiter]

>> Height: 112m
>> Beam: 468.72m
>> Length: 963.08m

OK here are the dimensions of a ship i am designing, it is a flag ship type ship, what sort of weaponry would fit well with this ship.

It contains stolen Asgard technology and is mainly Tau'ri engineered..

[An-Alteran]

>> Height: 112m
>> Beam: 468.72m
>> Length: 963.08m

OK here are the dimensions of a ship i am designing, it is a flag ship type ship, what sort of weaponry would fit well with this ship.

It contains stolen Asgard technology and is mainly Tau'ri engineered..

Why would we steal Asgard tech?
And why wouldn't that provoke a war?


And here is my first of three Wraith Warship designs:

Spoiler:

Dedicated Warships:

Name:
Unknown.
First Pure warship design used by the Wraith in the War.
This is the First type of Wraith ship encountered in space by the Lanteans.

Role:
The ship is design as the Primary combat ship of the Wraith forces.a
Primary weapons platform.
Primary troop carrier.
Secondary fleet command ship.
Can act as the Queen command ship.
Secondary Wraith Fighter/Bomber Carrier.

Size:
5.5km long (varying slightly depending on ship)
1.52km wide (varying slightly depending on ship)
1.2km in height (varying slightly depending on ship)

Physical Structure:
The ship roughly resembles the modern Wraith Cruisers in shape.
The ship is solid, having no holes or deep crevices in the ships form.
The ship is an oval arrow shape. Being pointed in the front, and going into a sharp curve, but and ending in a split dagger shape.

Propulsion:
6 thrust producing engines.
3 under the port dagger half, and 3 under the starboard dagger half.
1 primitive hyperspace engine based on a crude application of hyperspace technology learned from several of the advanced human civilizations. This is capable of slow interstellar travel. The ships organic nature forces a “cool down” period after a long while in hyperspace. This “cool down” period is rather random in when it is needed.

Power Source:
Double reactors based on human innovations, paired with a simple understanding of certain power sources in the fragmented Ancient technical history databanks captured long ago. These are sufficient to power the hyperdrive fully, or the weapons fully.
The design of the reactors is rather innovative, holding multiple reacting chambers that channel energy into a central chamber.
Each chamber gives most of its energy to the ship, but a little is used to go to a larger reactor core that creates a massive energy source.
A lot of energy is needed to start and maintain the reaction, this is why the smaller generators are needed.
However once started the main generators are immensely potent.

Weaponry:
Main Weaponry:
20 forward firing heavy energy cannons.
16 port, 16 starboard heavy energy cannons.
15 dorsal, and 15 ventral heavy energy cannons.
10 rear heavy energy cannons.

Secondary Weaponry:
74 forward firing medium energy cannons.
70 Port, 70 Starboard medium energy cannons.
55 dorsal, and 55 ventral medium energy cannons.
50 rear medium energy cannons.

Defenses:
Heavy bio-armour capable of significant self-repair covers the hull.
It is far thicker and denser then on the Hive and Cruiser counterparts.
The armour in the thinnest point is about 3 meters thick.
And 6 meters thick at the thickest point.
If more than 20% of the hull is lost, the ship will die, or if enough damage is done to the hull across the hull, the ship will die.

Craft:
2,000 +/- Wraith Fighter/Bombers (War Darts) are on the ship.
20 +/- Scout/Transports are on the ship.

Other:
The ship is equipped with one inter ship transporter beam system. The ship must be within 50 meters of the other ship for the transporter to work.
These only work when both ships have one and both ships have it activated. The two ships beams connect and create a sort of “Particle Bridge” between the two ships that allow the transfer of personnel.

History and details:
This is the ship that won the Wraith War..
This Hive ship was designed some 2,000 years before the Wraith war.
Over 5,000 were built.
All known units were lost.
These ships were designed to blend into the environment. So they have a rather pitted and uneven hull form do to being in the ground for centuries. Each ship has different shapes and forms do to growth over the many years it has been alive. The ship in these ways resembles their larger Hive counterparts. However this is where their similarities end.
This ship doesn’t cull, it doesn’t land troops, it doesn’t board ships.
Every inch of this ship is dedicated to one purpose: the destruction of any Ancient or Human ship in its path. These ships were built en mass, with 5 being built/grown per two years during the Wraith buildup for war with the Lanteans. They were designed with the goal of by sheer force, overwhelming Ancient shields and destroying the vessel. These were the turning point for the Wraith. If these ships had not been built, the Wraith would have lost.
The Ancient Drones had more difficulty with the hulls of these ships, because they were grown far slower and were far harder and far thicker than the hulls of the other Wraith ships. This ship actually required more Drones to destroy then a Hive ship, but not many more.
The other vulnerable point was the Dart launch bays. The doors were far thicker then on the Hives, this allowed more protection when they are closed, but it also made them harder to open and close, and this allowed them to be very vulnerable.
The Ancients learned that the main generators were immediately behind the Dart bays, and would fire volleys into the bays as they opened or closed, and the Drones would easily rip into the Generators and destroy the ship far easier.
This was the way most of the ships were destroyed. This caused about over 1,000 of them to stop using their Darts if the Darts were not already deployed.
And in combat, Darts would not be allowed to return if damaged.

[Col. Shadow Quinn]

Nice designs, You all get green.

[immhotep]

>> Height: 112m
>> Beam: 468.72m
>> Length: 963.08m

OK here are the dimensions of a ship i am designing, it is a flag ship type ship, what sort of weaponry would fit well with this ship.

It contains stolen Asgard technology and is mainly Tau'ri engineered..

We wouldnt steal asgard technology, absolutly 100% never. The relationship we have is so great that anything that jeperdises that relationship would be shut down completely.

[Buba uognarf]

Why would we steal Asgard tech?
And why wouldn't that provoke a war?


And here is my first of three Wraith Warship designs:

Spoiler:

Dedicated Warships:

Name:
Unknown.
First Pure warship design used by the Wraith in the War.
This is the First type of Wraith ship encountered in space by the Lanteans.

Role:
The ship is design as the Primary combat ship of the Wraith forces.a
Primary weapons platform.
Primary troop carrier.
Secondary fleet command ship.
Can act as the Queen command ship.
Secondary Wraith Fighter/Bomber Carrier.

Size:
5.5km long (varying slightly depending on ship)
1.52km wide (varying slightly depending on ship)
1.2km in height (varying slightly depending on ship)

Physical Structure:
The ship roughly resembles the modern Wraith Cruisers in shape.
The ship is solid, having no holes or deep crevices in the ships form.
The ship is an oval arrow shape. Being pointed in the front, and going into a sharp curve, but and ending in a split dagger shape.

Propulsion:
6 thrust producing engines.
3 under the port dagger half, and 3 under the starboard dagger half.
1 primitive hyperspace engine based on a crude application of hyperspace technology learned from several of the advanced human civilizations. This is capable of slow interstellar travel. The ships organic nature forces a “cool down” period after a long while in hyperspace. This “cool down” period is rather random in when it is needed.

Power Source:
Double reactors based on human innovations, paired with a simple understanding of certain power sources in the fragmented Ancient technical history databanks captured long ago. These are sufficient to power the hyperdrive fully, or the weapons fully.
The design of the reactors is rather innovative, holding multiple reacting chambers that channel energy into a central chamber.
Each chamber gives most of its energy to the ship, but a little is used to go to a larger reactor core that creates a massive energy source.
A lot of energy is needed to start and maintain the reaction, this is why the smaller generators are needed.
However once started the main generators are immensely potent.

Weaponry:
Main Weaponry:
20 forward firing heavy energy cannons.
16 port, 16 starboard heavy energy cannons.
15 dorsal, and 15 ventral heavy energy cannons.
10 rear heavy energy cannons.

Secondary Weaponry:
74 forward firing medium energy cannons.
70 Port, 70 Starboard medium energy cannons.
55 dorsal, and 55 ventral medium energy cannons.
50 rear medium energy cannons.

Defenses:
Heavy bio-armour capable of significant self-repair covers the hull.
It is far thicker and denser then on the Hive and Cruiser counterparts.
The armour in the thinnest point is about 3 meters thick.
And 6 meters thick at the thickest point.
If more than 20% of the hull is lost, the ship will die, or if enough damage is done to the hull across the hull, the ship will die.

Craft:
2,000 +/- Wraith Fighter/Bombers (War Darts) are on the ship.
20 +/- Scout/Transports are on the ship.

Other:
The ship is equipped with one inter ship transporter beam system. The ship must be within 50 meters of the other ship for the transporter to work.
These only work when both ships have one and both ships have it activated. The two ships beams connect and create a sort of “Particle Bridge” between the two ships that allow the transfer of personnel.

History and details:
This is the ship that won the Wraith War..
This Hive ship was designed some 2,000 years before the Wraith war.
Over 5,000 were built.
All known units were lost.
These ships were designed to blend into the environment. So they have a rather pitted and uneven hull form do to being in the ground for centuries. Each ship has different shapes and forms do to growth over the many years it has been alive. The ship in these ways resembles their larger Hive counterparts. However this is where their similarities end.
This ship doesn’t cull, it doesn’t land troops, it doesn’t board ships.
Every inch of this ship is dedicated to one purpose: the destruction of any Ancient or Human ship in its path. These ships were built en mass, with 5 being built/grown per two years during the Wraith buildup for war with the Lanteans. They were designed with the goal of by sheer force, overwhelming Ancient shields and destroying the vessel. These were the turning point for the Wraith. If these ships had not been built, the Wraith would have lost.
The Ancient Drones had more difficulty with the hulls of these ships, because they were grown far slower and were far harder and far thicker than the hulls of the other Wraith ships. This ship actually required more Drones to destroy then a Hive ship, but not many more.
The other vulnerable point was the Dart launch bays. The doors were far thicker then on the Hives, this allowed more protection when they are closed, but it also made them harder to open and close, and this allowed them to be very vulnerable.
The Ancients learned that the main generators were immediately behind the Dart bays, and would fire volleys into the bays as they opened or closed, and the Drones would easily rip into the Generators and destroy the ship far easier.
This was the way most of the ships were destroyed. This caused about over 1,000 of them to stop using their Darts if the Darts were not already deployed.
And in combat, Darts would not be allowed to return if damaged.

cool wraith ship but their are 2 things which need to/should be changed;

1)the armor on Modern hive ships is far thicker than 6m, i estimate dozens apon dozens of metres of armor in certain places on the Hive ships
2)The Wraith ships aren't alive therefore don't die, and 20% is too small make it something big like 40% of the ship destroyed and it rendered inopperable...

apart from that fantastic Wraith design

[immhotep]

Question about that ship...if it doesnt board ships and doesnt land troops..why is it the primary troop carrier?

[Arctic Goddess]

Question about that ship...if it doesnt board ships and doesnt land troops..why is it the primary troop carrier?

Immhotep....Immhotep......

Troop carriers can carry other things besides troops.

(Tag, you're it)

[immhotep]

Pat i know that, but if its thier primary troop carrier yet has no ability to either land or deploy those soldiers then what is the point in them being on board. Wouldnt it make more sense to a have a specialised troop carrier or at least dropships on board or in escourt? Yes.

(you it..and its nice to see you in my arena for once )

[Arctic Goddess]

Pat i know that, but if its thier primary troop carrier yet has no ability to either land or deploy those soldiers then what is the point in them being on board. Wouldnt it make more sense to a have a specialised troop carrier or at least dropships on board or in escourt? Yes.

(you it..and its nice to see you in my arena for once )

Well, you won't come to me, so I came to you, so nyah.

Could the troop carrier not be like the paratroopers of WWII and fly low enough to drop the troops?

[immhotep]

Because i hear the wraith are fantastic at flying freefall. I havent seen any other race in stargate have any kind of parachute, tealc is the only alien in the universe to have ever used one as far as i can tell. It could be possible that darts could land the troops but:

This ship doesn’t cull, it doesn’t land troops, it doesn’t board ships.

Therefore it really has no reason to have either darts or troop transports. The ship is great, besides that niggle.

[fallen_arbiter]

My imnitial design.

Spoiler:

Name: Paradox

Type: Long range, Hyperspace capable ship

Technology base: Tau’ri/Asgard/Ancient

Operators: A human crew

Naval Classification: Battleship / Dreadnaught

Hull: The Paradox’s hull is comprised of a polarised seven meter thick Ablative Trinium/Naquada/Carbon and Titanium alloy, with a secondary three meter thick hull comprised of Trinium and Titanium.
The structure of the ship is made of a Trinium and Titanium alloy, using a specially designed honeycomb structure allowing more movement of the ships actually body. This reduces the risk of sever hull damage, and helps increase the overall strength in battle.

Decks: The Paradox has 28 decks, most decks being around 2.5 meters high with a 1 meter high ventilation tube running across the level.

Layout:

Dimensions:
>> Height: 118m
>> Beam: 493.24m
>> Length: 913.56m

Displacement: 4,667,962.8 metric tons

Crew: The Paradox requires a crew of 600 to work at maximum efficiency, with a minimum required crew of 450 to run at minimal efficiency.

Craft: Small hanger bay capable of carrying a small squadron of fighters or a few Puddle Jumpers.

Power plant: Three Asgard Neutrino Ion generators, and one Naquada Mark (VI) generator.

Engines:
>> One altered Asgard hyperdrive (retractable)
>> One mini Tau’ri hyperdrive (backup)
>> Five very large Ion Drives
>> Two large sized Ion drives
>> Anti-gravity engines

Armament/Weapons:
>> 2x 600mm coil-gun
>> 30x 60mm rail-guns
>> 14x 120mm rail-guns
>> 8x 250mm rail-guns
>> 6x Ion beam weapons

>> 40x Anti-ship missiles
>> 100x anti-fighter missiles

>> 200 Omni advanced strike missiles.

Defences:
>> Three Asgard (Tau’ri altered) shield generators, producing a regenerative shield matrix
>> One Tau’ri engineered shield (modelled on Ancient shields) producing a hull hugging shield designed as a structural support.
>> Internal shield network
>> Inertial Dampeners
>> Ablative Armour

Other Technology:
>> Tau’ri engineered, (using Ancient design and Asgard) Clocking device.
>> Asgard Beaming technology (adapted for offensive capability)
>> Asgard Beaming Jammer
>> Four heavily guarded Ancient Ring Transporter
>> Advanced AI enhanced computers
>> Holographic systems
>> All the other basic needs.

Technical and Historical Notes:

Omni strike missile

Spoiler:

Name: Omni

Type: Medium range, automated attack missile

Technology base: Tau’ri/Asgard/Ancient

Operators: A Computer

Naval Classification: Missile

Hull: The Omni is made of a 2cm thick, Trinium/Titanium alloy.

Dimensions:
>> Height: 0.5m
>> Beam: 1m
>> Length: 3m

Crew: The Omni is controlled by an Artificially intelligent computer

Power plant: Single Naquada Mark (V) reactor

Engines:
Single small Ion Drive

Armament/Weapons:
>> A single Ion Beam Weapon

Defences:
>> Small Asgard Shield generator

Technical and Historical Notes:
The Omni was designed as part of a joint programme to produce advanced anti-fighter/ship weapons. The Omni was a third generation attempt, using a design close to that of an Ancient Drone. When launched the Omni initiate its attack protocol attacking as a large swarm against a designated target or squadron of targets. The Omni swarm firing Ion beams at a specific location on a ship to increase the chance of shield penetration or attacking on coming fighters. Due to the size of the Omni, it is very mobile and manoeuvrable, along with an integrated shield the Omni is a formidable weapon.

History
There were only two Paradox type ships ever made, both by an organisation known as ”The Shield”. The original ship named PtBD-1001 was designed as a battleship for deep insertion missions. It had a stronger structure and frame with a thicker hull to allow the ship the added protection needed when undergoing heavy fire. The original ship was smaller with a more open plan design. After initial testing and the finalisation of systems, PtBD-1001 was sent on its first mission. The orders had come from the Tau’ri naval fleet, the ship was to infiltrate a fleet of Pirates praying on Asgard and Tau’ri cargo ships. This would cause the development of the new ship.
During PtBD-1001’s mission, it was damaged by a fleet of modified frigates and was retired from the mission. This caused the second generation to be produced, the Paradox as it came to be known was an advanced battleship, designed for fleet interception. However this was never undertaken as during its finalisation test the ship was boarded and stolen by a renegade mercenary group known as “New Age”. Using their newly captured ship they destroyed the ship yard located on another planet and headed back to their base of operations in Australia.


More history to be done soon.

Images
To be added soon.

[immhotep]

F_A that ship is borderline, its either really good, or a little fanwank. It is good, i like it alot, but i need more infomation, on the shield, and on the ship. also when was it made? Because to create Omni it would have to be either in the future or in the past. if in the past we couldnt be involved...need to know a little bit more. Its good but just a little borderline atm..

[Buba uognarf]

generally very good, but the omni missiles are fanwank! they're too small we couldn't engineer something like that that small the Ion canon and ion drives would take up more than that anyway! make them much bigger than that'll be fine...other that good ship

[An-Alteran]

Question about that ship...if it doesnt board ships and doesnt land troops..why is it the primary troop carrier?

Typo. I was using the Hive ship of the same era for some of the specs because they were made from the same base, and it is a Warship in relation to the Hive. I acciodentally left that as part of the specs.

Therefore it really has no reason to have either darts or troop transports. The ship is great, besides that niggle.

The Darts are not equiped with transporter beams.
They are combat craft designed with twin energy pulse cannons instead of the single pulse cannon on the Darts we have today.

cool wraith ship but their are 2 things which need to/should be changed;

1)the armor on Modern hive ships is far thicker than 6m, i estimate dozens apon dozens of metres of armor in certain places on the Hive ships
2)The Wraith ships aren't alive therefore don't die, and 20% is too small make it something big like 40% of the ship destroyed and it rendered inopperable...

apart from that fantastic Wraith design

This is the first of the Warship designs. It dies when 1/5th (20%) of the ship is destroyed, or the majority of the armour is lost, and holes into the ship are made in many places.

It doesn't die right away, by it dies from that much damage.
And it is alive. It regrows anything bellow 20% loss of ship structure, except non-organic parts.
And it is thick, tough armour. Like metal, except it grows back from minor and moderate damage.

And do you know how thick 6 meters is?
That is taller than 1 story of my house!
Of PURE armour.
However, I will take your advice and triple the numbers.
How does 16 meters and 8 meters for the thinnest point?
With 15 meters being the norm?

[Buba uognarf]

This is the first of the Warship designs. It dies when 1/5th (20%) of the ship is destroyed, or the majority of the armour is lost, and holes into the ship are made in many places.

It doesn't die right away, by it dies from that much damage.
And it is alive. It regrows anything bellow 20% loss of ship structure, except non-organic parts.
And it is thick, tough armour. Like metal, except it grows back from minor and moderate damage.

And do you know how thick 6 meters is?
That is taller than 1 story of my house!
Of PURE armour.
However, I will take your advice and triple the numbers.
How does 16 meters and 8 meters for the thinnest point?
With 15 meters being the norm?

there's a difference between being alive and healing itself...wraith ships are not alive because they do not display the 5 vital functions needed for life therefore it is not alive end of discussion lol

Is a wooden door alive? no it's not so neither are wraith ships, they may be gentically engineered to repair themselves but that doesn't make them alive...

i'll post a picture to shown you what i mean when i say thick...

http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/3...l/nml0087.html
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/3...l/nml0086.html
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/3...l/nml0125.html

as you can see compared to an 11km hive ship that armor is pretty thick!!!