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    #46
    I know it's unrelated, just thiught they might not want the negativity associated with it now. Just speculation on my part

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      #47
      Originally posted by lightsyder View Post
      I know it's unrelated, just thiught they might not want the negativity associated with it now. Just speculation on my part
      Isis was first --
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        #48
        Lol! Very true!

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          #49
          Well, it's a fair point. No one wants to be associated with the IS, and unfortunately Isis as a name does have negative connotations in that department. Even Downton Abbey apparently killed a character's dog named Isis. They claim it was not because of the IS but you just know it was.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Osiristi View Post
            Well, it's a fair point. No one wants to be associated with the IS, and unfortunately Isis as a name does have negative connotations in that department. Even Downton Abbey apparently killed a character's dog named Isis. They claim it was not because of the IS but you just know it was.
            I don't associate IS with Isis because they are two different things. One is a terrorist group that is actually named ISIL, and the other is an Egyptian goddess.

            If you are incapable of distinguishing between the two, then the problem lies with you (general) and not the character in question.

            However, in relation to Origins, it doesn't actually matter since they don't follow series' canon but movie canon. The Steward expedition is an SG-1 invention. In the film all gods and goddesses were fair game.
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              #51
              Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
              I don't associate IS with Isis because they are two different things. One is a terrorist group that is actually named ISIL, and the other is an Egyptian goddess.

              If you are incapable of distinguishing between the two, then the problem lies with you (general) and not the character in question.

              However, in relation to Origins, it doesn't actually matter since they don't follow series' canon but movie canon. The Steward expedition is an SG-1 invention. In the film all gods and goddesses were fair game.
              Please, no need to turn this into a personal attack. I'm not saying I think of IS when speaking about Isis but that people in general do so. Just google Isis. Most of the results are not about the Goddess. Please try to understand this without attacking other users.

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                #52
                Yes, that is what I meant. The general public is not going to tie the word to Egyptian mythology.

                Granted Stargate fans probably know better but all won't and it's probably MGM'S view that simply avoiding potential negative ties is the best option

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                  #53
                  Maybe Hathor could have been a better choice then, but then it could have been harder to close story how she ends up in Latin America.

                  Taurt could have been a good candidate:
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taweret
                  But since they have used "her" in the LOST, I doubt that they wanted to introduce her in the SG as well.

                  A little off. While I was studying the fertility goddess, I was not aware that Qetesh had mythological connection too:
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qetesh
                  Hmmm. Shame on me. How can I be a Vala fan if I don't know such informations. Anyway the "she was a fertility goddess of sacred ecstasy and sexual pleasure"... fits perfecty. So maybe Claudia Black could have played her as Quetesh, but then she would have told the team that actually she managed to meet the Langfords long time ago on Abydos. Then it would be also not logical why Ra would keep Quetesh/Vala alive, so just ignore this little mini fan fiction.
                  "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

                  "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."

                  "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Osiristi View Post
                    Please, no need to turn this into a personal attack.
                    I was not attacking anyone -- I was talking about the "general" you. Perhaps, I should have been more clear.

                    Originally posted by lightsyder View Post
                    Yes, that is what I meant. The general public is not going to tie the word to Egyptian mythology.

                    Granted Stargate fans probably know better but all won't and it's probably MGM'S view that simply avoiding potential negative ties is the best option
                    That's BS. If the general public hasn't a clue, they should have paid better attention in history class, or read a bit more. Isis and Osiris aren't unknown Egyptian gods either. And pretty common knowledge.
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                      #55
                      I can assure you no history class I ever had covered Egyptian mythology. I learned what I did by reading up on it on my own.

                      We have our differing opinions on the subject, end of story.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by TheVoidDragon View Post
                        I don't see the issue with Ra not considering Earth a threat. It's the same thing Apophis does despite Apophis going there himself and seeing the level of technology the Tau'ri have. In the pilot episode for the series Ra goes to Earth himself, gets a look around the gateroom and encounters several SGC guards - and he actually looses one of his personal guard to them - but he doesn't at any point show any actual interest in Earth from what i remember. Even after capturing SG1 he shows absolutely no interest in them, it isn't until they directly interrupt him as he's leaving (and with Teal'c betraying him) that he finally decides to send some Jaffa and then eventually just gives up after a few days. It isn't until after SG1 captures him on the Nox planet and they go on to do all sorts of other things that he finally decides to send 2 ships to Earth.

                        If Apophis, who was a quite powerful system lord, wouldn't consider them a threat after encountering the more advanced (than 1930s Earth) military personnel and seeing their level of technology himself, then i don't see why Ra would consider them a threat before the movie. Ra was the most powerful system lord, he probably had more important things to do than rush off and deal with them when they weren't a problem right away, and 70 years probably isn't a huge amount of time for a creature who's thousands of years old.

                        The Goa'uld are arrogant, self-centred and pretty much always underestimate their enemies. I don't think there's much chance he considered them worth any significant attention at the time.
                        Way late on this reply, but isn't there dialogue in Season 1 about how mustering the ships and army to come and attack Earth takes a good deal of effort on Apophis' part? I don't think that it was a case of he didn't think it was worth is so much as he had to get around to it. Which, sure you can make the argument that ra just never got around it, but come on. That's so weak.

                        Perfecto!

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