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    #61
    Having never read Joe's Blog, nor having the slightest interest in reading it, I'm sure it is indeed very PRO its author.
    He IS probably right about fans not knowing what's going on behind the scenes re casting changes etc. and presuming too much. I'm sure there are alot of fingers in the pie and who knows what orders the big wigs with the purse strings pass on down as directives to the writers etc.
    Having said that, I don't think he is a particularly good writer with whatever he's given or told to do to begin with.
    My only PRO for him is there is alot of pressure to produce scripts in two to three week turnovers for episodic TV and most people would flounder trying to come up with just one in 6 months.
    Imagine trying to reel it out every couple of weeks or so. It's not like they can sit back for 4 months and tidy up the scripts till there really ready. They've gotta churn them out at a pretty rapid rate and they are never really going to be 'great works'.
    It's the reason why they burn out pretty quickly, creatively, and why they need constant renewal for fresh ideas.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Skydiver View Post
      the topic here is Pro Joe's Blog...not open season on the posters here. Blurry line i know, but please try to keep it on topic
      Well, by the same token, I'm disappointed to see posts on the last page of this thread criticizing Joe and his blog with no mod reaction. ::Looks at title of thread:: What's the deal with that? Maybe I'll wander over to the Anti-S10 thread and talk about how much I loved The Quest Part 2. How would that be taken?

      If you're going to have 'protected' threads, they need to be enforced fairly, even when the POV is not the prevailing one here.

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        #63
        We can't read every post in every thread. Anyone sees a post in any thread that they feel is off topic or breaks the rules, report it.

        Right now, so many people are ticked at so many things and using the word 'pro' or 'anti' to mean so many things, it is very difficult to determine precisely what is 'right' or 'wrong' because the words are very, very subjective and mean different things to different people.

        We have no quantitative definition of the amount of like that = pro and the amount of dislike that = anti, so it's up to the opinion and determination of every single poster. No matter how we mod it, someone won't agree with us.
        Where in the World is George Hammond?


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          #64
          Also, just because folks wish to defend joe's right to blog, it doesn't mean that they also have open season to bash or pick on any that disagree with his posts. That's part of the line here. Joe can certainly be defended, but not at the cost of ragging on others. They have just as much right to not like what he said as he has to say it.
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            #65
            From his blog:
            Speaking of grousing, I couldn’t help but notice that certain remarks in yesterday’s blog have engendered a rising tide of frothing fan fury. Some accuse me of hating the fans, the forums, anyone holding a negative opinion of the shows. In their, dare I say it, lemming-like stampede rush to hysterical judgment, they failed to take one tiny thing into account: what I actually wrote. Even though the quote has found its way onto the various forums, no one has bothered to actually read it, caught up as they are in the intoxicating frenzy of mass berserker rage. To refresh your memories, I wrote: “I considered joining some online fan forum and joining the chorus blaming the producers for her sudden disappearance (…) but ultimately decided against it because I realized it would only make me sound like a shrill and ill-informed lemming.” To spell it out for you: individuals who point the finger and assign blame based on nothing more than their gut instinct are ignorant at best, cretins at worst. And those who chime in with them fare not much better. Sorry, nothing there about fans who are unhappy with the show or those who criticize the show or those who frequent forums or fans in general. Specifically, and quite clearly, I was referring to the self-anointed know-it-alls. That said, don’t let me stop any other fans who don’t fall into said group from feeling any less victimized. If you want to feel persecuted for no good reason, by all means go for it. After all, there’s nothing more satisfying than a good mob rage. (Ultimately, I’m sure this won’t change many minds. Joining together with like-minded individuals in a screaming chorus of blue murder is a heck of a lot easier than admitting you’ve made a mistake.)
            I agree with Joe's blog. In principle...he is exactly right. There are those who take little tidbits and run wild with them...people who choose to paint themselves as victims in a situation where they don't have all the facts (I understand this sentiment as I used to do it myself before I realized it was pointless and a waste of my energy). Movements are created based on intentional or unintentional misunderstandings and things go from bad to bizarre in a split second.

            I will add that it might have been nice had he phrased his comments a little differently...but the reality is that the situation is so charged that regardless of what he said, it would have been used as a battle cry.

            We don't know all the facts yet and until we do, making rushes to judgment is just a sure way to a stomach full of ulcers.

            ...You're ALWAYS Welcome in Samanda: Amanda's Community of New Fans and Old Friends...

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              #66
              I think one of the reasons for the reaction is that he's now the Atlantis Show Runner. What was one thing before on the GW blog and Ask Thread, is now another thing entirely. So people are taking what he says much more seriously.

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                #67
                Oops, little late to the party; but I would like to add my positive support to this thread! I make certain to check on Joe's blog at least once a day, and I'm never disappointed. I'm not a foodie, but even I can get a laugh out of the reviews and descriptions.

                And the recent add-on of fan-interaction is that much better.

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                  #68
                  I agree with Joe's Blog and support his sentiments. Why should fans insult, bash and criticise the PTB, the writers and everyone associated with the show, and as soon as one of the bites back if you will, they get bombasted.

                  Thanks Joe for taking the time to update your blog.
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