The Anti Season 4 Thread (Spoilers). For complaints and misgivings ONLY.

[mcbarr]

As a trekkie I have to say that Enterprise is really good. Especially S3 and 4.

DS9-ENT-TNG-VOY-TOS-TAS

I hoped, naive me, that SGA S4 might be something like ENT S4...well, I guess I was wrong

Of course. SGA's creative staff is still the same.

[marielabbott]

IMO:

DS9 > TNG > TOS > Voyager > Enterprise > TAS

I'd say DS9--TNG--TOS--Enterprise--Voyager...and is the animated series worth watching? I've not seen it. Is it better than SGA season 4?

I hoped, naive me, that SGA S4 might be something like ENT S4...well, I guess I was wrong

We're all wrong sometimes, I feel your pain.

[Klenotka]

Is it better than SGA season 4?

I would say that everything is better than SGA season 4 But I think that TAS is still really bad...and I can hope that SGA won´t sink that deep.

We're all wrong sometimes, I feel your pain.

Thank you

[Falcon Horus]

Okay, I finished wordcount. Next up screentime.

Here are the results of season 2:

Spoiler:

Season 2 has a total wordcount of 94,574 words, which makes an average of 4,729 words per episode.

Season 1 had 5258 words less than season 2. Average that means 263 words less per episode.

Joe Flanigan/John Sheppard
Total = 16,008
Average = 800

In comparison to season 1
Total + 537
Average + 26

Joe had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 416
Most words in 209 - Aurora -> 1403

Torri Higginson/Elizabeth Weir
Total = 9,607
Average = 480

In comparison to season 1
Total - 3923
Average - 192

Torri had less words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 215 - The Tower -> 61
Most words in 216 - The Long Goodbye -> 1182

Rachel Luttrell/Teyla Emmagan
Total = 5217
Average = 261

In comparison to season 1
Total - 980
Average - 49

Rachel had less words in season 2 than in season 1

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 218 - Michael -> 596

Jason Momoa/Ronon Dex
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 2436
Average = 143

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 217 - Coup d'Etat -> 297

Paul McGillion/Carson Beckett
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 5354
Average = 315

Least words in 205 - Condemned, 209 - Aurora & 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in any of the episodes)
Most words in 208 - Conversion -> 1154

David Hewlett/Rodney McKay
Total = 22790
Average = 1140

In comparison to season 1
Total + 2616
Average + 131

David had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 202
Most words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 2609

Rainbow Sun Francks/Aiden Ford
Can't compare him to season 1 since he had far less episode, since he got demoted to recurring character. Only appears in 6 episodes.

Total = 2320
Average = 387

Least words in 202 - The Intruder -> 7 (only in the "Previously on Stargate Atlantis")
Most words in 210 - The Lost Boys -> 1269

Claire Rankin/Kate Heightmeyer
Because she's my favorite, and I'm the one doing the research. 2 episodes in season 2.

Total = 421
Average = 213

For more details, you can download the wordfile - > Wordcount SGA

[Anuna]

Surprise surprise! McKay certainly talked Sheppard out of the way.

[dana]

Okay, I finished wordcount. Next up screentime.

Here are the results of season 2:

Spoiler:

Season 2 has a total wordcount of 94,574 words, which makes an average of 4,729 words per episode.

Season 1 had 5258 words less than season 2. Average that means 263 words less per episode.

Joe Flanigan/John Sheppard
Total = 16,008
Average = 800

In comparison to season 1
Total + 537
Average + 26

Joe had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 416
Most words in 209 - Aurora -> 1403

Torri Higginson/Elizabeth Weir
Total = 9,607
Average = 480

In comparison to season 1
Total - 3923
Average - 192

Torri had less words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 215 - The Tower -> 61
Most words in 216 - The Long Goodbye -> 1182

Rachel Luttrell/Teyla Emmagan
Total = 5217
Average = 261

In comparison to season 1
Total - 980
Average - 49

Rachel had less words in season 2 than in season 1

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 218 - Michael -> 596

Jason Momoa/Ronon Dex
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 2436
Average = 143

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 217 - Coup d'Etat -> 297

Paul McGillion/Carson Beckett
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 5354
Average = 315

Least words in 205 - Condemned, 209 - Aurora & 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in any of the episodes)
Most words in 208 - Conversion -> 1154

David Hewlett/Rodney McKay
Total = 22790
Average = 1140

In comparison to season 1
Total + 2616
Average + 131

David had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 202
Most words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 2609

Rainbow Sun Francks/Aiden Ford
Can't compare him to season 1 since he had far less episode, since he got demoted to recurring character. Only appears in 6 episodes.

Total = 2320
Average = 387

Least words in 202 - The Intruder -> 7 (only in the "Previously on Stargate Atlantis")
Most words in 210 - The Lost Boys -> 1269

Claire Rankin/Kate Heightmeyer
Because she's my favorite, and I'm the one doing the research. 2 episodes in season 2.

Total = 421
Average = 213

For more details, you can download the wordfile - > Wordcount SGA

Thank you for summing that up! It's a shame Elizabeth lost her screentime in favor of more McKay. *doesn't really want to guess the total number for McKay in s3*

[parisindy]

Okay, I finished wordcount. Next up screentime.

Here are the results of season 2:

Spoiler:

Season 2 has a total wordcount of 94,574 words, which makes an average of 4,729 words per episode.

Season 1 had 5258 words less than season 2. Average that means 263 words less per episode.

Joe Flanigan/John Sheppard
Total = 16,008
Average = 800

In comparison to season 1
Total + 537
Average + 26

Joe had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 416
Most words in 209 - Aurora -> 1403

Torri Higginson/Elizabeth Weir
Total = 9,607
Average = 480

In comparison to season 1
Total - 3923
Average - 192

Torri had less words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 215 - The Tower -> 61
Most words in 216 - The Long Goodbye -> 1182

Rachel Luttrell/Teyla Emmagan
Total = 5217
Average = 261

In comparison to season 1
Total - 980
Average - 49

Rachel had less words in season 2 than in season 1

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 218 - Michael -> 596

Jason Momoa/Ronon Dex
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 2436
Average = 143

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 217 - Coup d'Etat -> 297

Paul McGillion/Carson Beckett
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 5354
Average = 315

Least words in 205 - Condemned, 209 - Aurora & 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in any of the episodes)
Most words in 208 - Conversion -> 1154

David Hewlett/Rodney McKay
Total = 22790
Average = 1140

In comparison to season 1
Total + 2616
Average + 131

David had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 202
Most words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 2609

Rainbow Sun Francks/Aiden Ford
Can't compare him to season 1 since he had far less episode, since he got demoted to recurring character. Only appears in 6 episodes.

Total = 2320
Average = 387

Least words in 202 - The Intruder -> 7 (only in the "Previously on Stargate Atlantis")
Most words in 210 - The Lost Boys -> 1269

Claire Rankin/Kate Heightmeyer
Because she's my favorite, and I'm the one doing the research. 2 episodes in season 2.

Total = 421
Average = 213

For more details, you can download the wordfile - > Wordcount SGA

oh wow! this needs to be in an excel sheet with graphs and stuff cause this is brilliant! great work there!

[Anuna]

Yeah, this is a solid proof of characters being wallpapered. I think everybody lost their screentime in favor of McKay.

[justhere1971]

Smeller. I think I have something to beging the new Stinky sock mix with



Yeah! The only woman I want to see Radek with is Elizabeth (sorry, Sparky shippers) and I'm still looking forward to a scene of... "mutual nanite exchange" between them that I know will never come. (But that doesn't mean I can't write fanfictions about it)

Why does that sound dirty? Is it suppose to?

[Anuna]

Why does that sound dirty? Is it suppose to?

I guess it's supposed to sound dirty. Oh wait, Sheppard could get infected with nanites too! Somebody should write about that.

[Chrysalis]

Thank you for summing that up! It's a shame Elizabeth lost her screentime in favor of more McKay. *doesn't really want to guess the total number for McKay in s3*

Yeah, but she still comes in at number three, despite people not seeing her as an important character.

[mcbarr]

Okay, I finished wordcount. Next up screentime.

Here are the results of season 2:

Spoiler:

Season 2 has a total wordcount of 94,574 words, which makes an average of 4,729 words per episode.

Season 1 had 5258 words less than season 2. Average that means 263 words less per episode.

Joe Flanigan/John Sheppard
Total = 16,008
Average = 800

In comparison to season 1
Total + 537
Average + 26

Joe had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 416
Most words in 209 - Aurora -> 1403

Torri Higginson/Elizabeth Weir
Total = 9,607
Average = 480

In comparison to season 1
Total - 3923
Average - 192

Torri had less words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 215 - The Tower -> 61
Most words in 216 - The Long Goodbye -> 1182

Rachel Luttrell/Teyla Emmagan
Total = 5217
Average = 261

In comparison to season 1
Total - 980
Average - 49

Rachel had less words in season 2 than in season 1

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 218 - Michael -> 596

Jason Momoa/Ronon Dex
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 2436
Average = 143

Least words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in the episode)
Most words in 217 - Coup d'Etat -> 297

Paul McGillion/Carson Beckett
Only 17 episodes as official regular aka in the opening credits, which means his wordcount starts at 204 - Duet.

Total = 5354
Average = 315

Least words in 205 - Condemned, 209 - Aurora & 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 0 (didn't appear in any of the episodes)
Most words in 208 - Conversion -> 1154

David Hewlett/Rodney McKay
Total = 22790
Average = 1140

In comparison to season 1
Total + 2616
Average + 131

David had more words in season 2 than in season 1.

Least words in 218 - Michael -> 202
Most words in 214 - Grace Under Pressure -> 2609

Rainbow Sun Francks/Aiden Ford
Can't compare him to season 1 since he had far less episode, since he got demoted to recurring character. Only appears in 6 episodes.

Total = 2320
Average = 387

Least words in 202 - The Intruder -> 7 (only in the "Previously on Stargate Atlantis")
Most words in 210 - The Lost Boys -> 1269

Claire Rankin/Kate Heightmeyer
Because she's my favorite, and I'm the one doing the research. 2 episodes in season 2.

Total = 421
Average = 213

For more details, you can download the wordfile - > Wordcount SGA

Incredible job, FH! And very revealing... Will you do s3? I suspect things get even worse there.

: I'm the king of the world!

[Falcon Horus]

oh wow! this needs to be in an excel sheet with graphs and stuff cause this is brilliant! great work there!

Excel an I don't work well together, but please... knock yourself out.

[Anuna]

Yeah, but she still comes in at number three, despite people not seeing her as an important character.

She is the voice of reason and the light in the dark. People can say all they want but she lights up the screen.

[Klenotka]

I love McKay but I would prefer more development and lesser idiotic behaviour for him over the screentime he got.
But I think it is more equal in S4. I think that Sheppard got most screentime in S4.
The one from few good things I can say about S4 is how McKay is written, in most of the episodes (except BAMSR)