The Anti Season 4 Thread (Spoilers). For complaints and misgivings ONLY.

[parisindy]

I am counting the info because it happens a lot that screentime of actors is pulled into a discussion. And someone else will counter that it's not just screentime that is important, but what happens during that time.

So, I decided once and for all to proof that McKay and Sheppard are in fact the only two who get decent screentime, and have more words to learn and speak in an episode than any of the other characters who appear in the main credits.

I am out to proof that TPTB have no idea what to do with the characters whose names aren't Sheppard or McKay. That Teyla, Ronon, Ford, Weir & Beckett are the secondary characters (which makes Zelenka a tertiary one, Kate fourth in line) and that they are usually forgotten.

And yes, at the moment I have too much time on my hands and it's something to keep me from going completely insane.

ah well its very interesting no matter how you look at it ...very cool thanks for the info!

i wish i had some time to do stuff... my stories are calling me. i've just been popping in here between painting the kitchen and wrapping presents

[ToasterOnFire]

That is some major work there, FH! Very impressive!

No surprise that McKay and Shep have the most lines and screentime, respectively. The ranking of the rest of the characters is what I expected too. Now I'm curious as to whether the gap between Shep and McKay and the rest of the characters got larger in s2 and s3. And I'm also curious as to the final lines/screentime comparison between Weir in any of the first 3 seasons and Carter in s4. Will Carter get a similar amount, more, or less? IMO, it could go any way.

It's sad - I have zero interest in watching the leaked AoT. I couldn't even finish s10 of SG1. Scary to think that I could feel the same way about SGA someday...

[Chrysalis]

Okay, I'm done with season 1, and I'm about to start on season 2.

Here are the results of the screen- and wordcount for the first season of Stargate Atlantis (yes, I have too much time on my hands at the moment):

Spoiler:

Season 1
AVERAGE TOT. SCREENTIME = 40m02s
AVERAGE TOT. WORDCOUNT = 4466

Joe Flanigan as John Sheppard
AVERAGE SCREENTIME JOE = 12m42s

Most in The Rising - 30m24s (pilot counts as one episode)
Least in Hot Zone - 7m15s

AVERAGE WORDCOUNT JOE = 774

Most in Sanctuary - 1378
Least in Before I Sleep - 431

Torri Higginson as Elizabeth Weir
AVERAGE SCREENTIME TORRI = 8m36s

Most in Before I Sleep - 27m35s
Least in Childhood’s End - 1m52s

AVERAGE WORDCOUNT TORRI = 672

Most in Before I Sleep - 1526
Least in The Defiant One - 196

Rachel Luttrell as Teyla Emmagan
AVERAGE SCREENTIME RACHEL = 6m30s

Most in The Gift - 18m56s
Least in The Defiant One - 1m11s

AVERAGE WORDCOUNT RACHEL = 310

Most in The Gift - 1401
Least in Before I Sleep - 34

Rainbow Sun Francks as Aiden Ford
AVERAGE SCREENTIME RAINBOW = 5m38s

Most in The Rising - 20m29s
Least in Before I Sleep - 1m52s

AVERAGE WORDCOUNT RAINBOW = 233

Most in 38 Minutes - 876
Least in Before I Sleep - 29

David Hewlett as Rodney McKay
AVERAGE SCREENTIME DAVID = 9m30s

Most in The Brotherhood - 17m08s
Least in The Gift - 5m15s

AVERAGE WORDCOUNT DAVID = 1009

Most in Hot Zone - 1766
Least in Poisoning The Well - 233

For the full document...you'll have to PM me. And I'm still working on it, for I want to compare all seasons to one another. I only take the people who are in the opening credits. As you know Rainbox disappeared from the credits, yet he will still be counted, just as Torri will in season 4. And because she's my favorite character on the show, also included is Claire's screentime and wordcount.

Well that's interesting. It really kills the anti-Weir people's argument that all she did was say "good luck" as they were going through the gate. She had more screen time than everyone except Joe and David, which, to be honest is to be expected.

If they wanted to get rid of a character who sat around doing nothing, they should have picked someone else.

It'd be interesting to see how her season three figures were. I think she did quite a bit -- certainly more screen time than Ronon and Teyla, but still there are those who believe they had more time on camera because they're 'part of the team'.

[Gregorius]

Remember, that was only season one; the season most of us agree on was the best so far.

[Celcool]

Well that's interesting. It really kills the anti-Weir people's argument that all she did was say "good luck" as they were going through the gate. She had more screen time than everyone except Joe and David, which, to be honest is to be expected.

If they wanted to get rid of a character who sat around doing nothing, they should have picked someone else.

It'd be interesting to see how her season three figures were. I think she did quite a bit -- certainly more screen time than Ronon and Teyla, but still there are those who believe they had more time on camera because they're 'part of the team'.

The people who are saying that she had nothing to do in the last three seasons and that now that she's not even her real her and got to be in like 2 episodes this season, her character finally got some development must've not watched the show before or with very little interest in it if they missed half of it. Of course she's a main character, she's right up there with Sheppard and McKay, those three were it! She's the one who is most connected to the city, the leader who did everything to save it on several occasions, with the help of her most trusted team of course. She is like a president who has the most competent people working for him and doesn't fight himself. Have to say that I do miss her a lot when I allow myself to think about the show I used to love so much, what i used to love it for but it's kinda better not to, I tend to be in the anti-mode lately, almost a year already.

[Reefgirl]

British movies also are superior to American movies, then again most European series, shows and movies are superior to their American counterparts. I mentioned it before but I think this has something to do the far less flashy usage of CGI in European stuff.



They need to watch those series and take notes. They'll be tested afterwards on what they learned and their final grade will be 25% test score and 75% of what the season of their series was like.

I'd green you if I could but the 24 hours aren't up yet so have an unofficial one, again

[Falcon Horus]

That is some major work there, FH! Very impressive!

And I'm not done yet...

No surprise that McKay and Shep have the most lines and screentime, respectively. The ranking of the rest of the characters is what I expected too. Now I'm curious as to whether the gap between Shep and McKay and the rest of the characters got larger in s2 and s3. And I'm also curious as to the final lines/screentime comparison between Weir in any of the first 3 seasons and Carter in s4. Will Carter get a similar amount, more, or less? IMO, it could go any way.

That's what I'm trying to determine.

Well that's interesting. It really kills the anti-Weir people's argument that all she did was say "good luck" as they were going through the gate. She had more screen time than everyone except Joe and David, which, to be honest is to be expected.

It kills many arguments... It shows the cold hard truth.

Remember, that was only season one; the season most of us agree on was the best so far.

Absolutely.

[Gregorius]

I'd green you if I could but the 24 hours aren't up yet so have an unofficial one, again

To aid my flow of green, I'll try to make just one good post a day.

[Integrabyte]

To aid my flow of green, I'll try to make just one good post a day.

I still have to see one

[justhere1971]

And I'm not done yet...
That's what I'm trying to determine.

It kills many arguments... It shows the cold hard truth.

Absolutely.

Oh don't show them facts, they get angrier if they are proven incorrect.

[Integrabyte]

Oh don't show them facts, they get angrier if they are proven incorrect.

Nobody likes to be wrong . We ANTIS are always right no matter what

[Gregorius]

Oh don't show them facts, they get angrier if they are proven incorrect.

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." ~ Mark Twain.

[Falcon Horus]

Oh don't show them facts, they get angrier if they are proven incorrect.

Well, if they want facts all the time, I'll be able to hand them on a silver platter. They can do with them what they want.

Nobody likes to be wrong . We ANTIS are always right no matter what

Damn straight, we are!

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." ~ Mark Twain.

Nice!

[Integrabyte]

Damn straight, we are!

Antis have universal truths in their statements

[Gregorius]

Antis can still look at things critically, this is because antis can turn on their brains when watching telly.