The Anti Season 4 Thread (Spoilers). For complaints and misgivings ONLY.

[mcbarr]

Anti-Album #2:

1. Queen - We Will Rock You
2. AC/DC - Highway To Hell
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[Anuna]

Add also: Chris Rea - The road to hell! and Eric Clapton - I shot the sherrif.

Oooh wait. Don't forget this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JZUHFuklo8 Toby Keith and Willie Nelson - Beer for my horses

Listen to the words and make sure you notice who makes a special appereance on this video!

[mcbarr]

Anti-Album #2:

1. Queen - We Will Rock You
2. AC/DC - Highway To Hell
3. Chris Rea - The Road To Hell
4. Eric Clapton - I Shot The Sheriff
5. Toby Keith & Willie Nelson - Beer For My Horses
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Done.

Is that ? LOL

[Skydiver]

yep, corin is in that video..in drag.

I think it was done as a favor for a friend, but i'm not sure

[Suzotchka]

We should add the theme to SpongeBob Squarepants to our album. Especially since SpongeBob is visiting Atlantis this year.

Atlantis Squarepantis!

Edit for picture:

Spoiler:

[Anuna]

Done.

Is that ? LOL

Yup it's Corin and I find that a reeeally great symblism, given how he left SG - 1.

[Vale_Sg1]

We should add the theme to SpongeBob Squarepants to our album. Especially since SpongeBob is visiting Atlantis this year.

Atlantis Squarepantis!

Edit for picture:

*snorts tea all over her computer screen*

Ahh, too bad I can't green you!!!

[parisindy]

the thing is, they watch it with different eyes. They watchit from the pov of an 'insider' who knows why this was done or why that was done. they watch it from the pov of a person who's the creator(s) of the work, thus are a bit attached to it.

IMHO, if they really want to get a hint as to how the general fan would act...pull in a few average people and have them look at it,o r read the script and give them an honest opinon.

but i don't see them doing that. Theyjust look at it from thier narrow little world and dont' worry about the input and opinions of others.

They're not willing or able to put themselves in the mindset of the average fan and 'pretend' to be something other than the show's creators.

and then, by the time we see it...well thanks to skiffy's holdback, they will be done taping the whole season in november or so, and we won't have even hit the mid season break yet

Most shows do have Focus groups though... (not that i am defending them)
its one of the reasons i have heard for them getting ride of weir and carson...
though i still think thats totally bogus

[PG15]

OMG, poor thing. Antis have destroyed his ratings? Bad bad BAAAD antis!!!

That's not even CLOSE to what he's saying...

Read his comments again: Anti's aren't lowering the ratings, it's what they attribute the rating losses to that he is criticising.

[mcbarr]

We should add the theme to SpongeBob Squarepants to our album. Especially since SpongeBob is visiting Atlantis this year.

Atlantis Squarepantis!

Edit for picture:

Spoiler:

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utsgmy6XO2o

Yup it's Corin and I find that a reeeally great symblism, given how he left SG - 1.

It is indeed.

[Ruined_puzzle]

That's not even CLOSE to what he's saying...

Read his comments again: Anti's aren't lowering the ratings, it's what they attribute the rating losses to that he is criticising.

I thought Anuna was talking about Val Kilmer since you know he's obviously in the world to destroy SGA.

I love how when JM says something is criticizing but when other people do it, it's bashing.

[PG15]

Fine.

Read his comments again: Anti's aren't lowering the ratings, it's what they attribute the rating losses to that he is bashing.

The basic point's still there though.

[nowvoyager908]

Fine.

Read his comments again: Anti's aren't lowering the ratings, it's what they attribute the rating losses to that he is bashing.

The basic point's still there though.

His comments remind me of something I heard on Real Time with Bill Maher. To paraphrase - Instead of talking about SGA, he's talking about the viewers who are talking about SGA.

The point of the comment on Real Time was that when a group starts to loose control of a situation, they often try to redirect the conversation to something else, taking heat off themselves in the process. I think it works in this situation as well.

[PG15]

I don't see how this applies. True, he talked about the anti-season 4 peeps, but he also talks about food, dogs, and books. It just seems like another point of discussion on his blog. And, you really can't deny that what he's saying is indeed happening, it's just not as prevalent here as it is on...I don't know, LiveJournal?

Oh, and since this does relate to this thread now:

SMB_Books writes: “Indicating that a group of fans (“former” or not) are demonstrating an “inhuman amount of ignorance” is an interesting tactic to take…”

Answer: Specifically, I said that those fans who consider the obvious effects the internet, and the proliferation of channels have had on television ratings (and not just ours) as nothing more than excuses demonstrate an inhuman amount of ignorance - and I’ll stand by that statement. To completely dismiss the influence of all of the aforementioned is just downright silly. And to be perfectly honest, given your intelligent and well-argued past comments, I’m surprised you vehemently disagree.

SMB Books also writes: “ I have posted in the anti-season 4 thread on GW. From my observation, I can tell you there appear to be different kinds of fans who post in that thread.”

Answer: And there are fans who have posted their criticisms here as well. But there’s a big difference between someone criticizing changes in the show and someone claiming they have abandoned the show (the “former” fans) who nevertheless take the time to remain active criticizing a show they no longer watch AND enthusiastically root for its cancellation. In the case of the first group of critics - hey, so long as their posts are respectful, they’ll always have a forum here. In the case of the latter, I’d say their pointless behavior is fair game.

Louise writes: “Whilst the changes made to casting will obviously not be the only factor in affecting the show’s viewing figures, to say they have no effect is equally ridiculous.”

Answer: Where did I say, or even infer, that creative decisions have no effect on a show’s viewing figures?

I wonder if people will give Joe a break when he actually answered the comments that so many people predicted he wouldn't.

EDIT: And while I'm here visiting...

Yeah, take the recent comments about Trio,

Spoiler:

he basically stated "we shot a potential Sam/Jack scene...but then we cut it...so...yeah." Why else would one bring up such a big deal for S/J shippers only to yank the rug out from under them by saying it's not going to be in the final cut? I think this was a way to get a "pleasepleaseplease put it back in" response from the shippers, which it apparently did. And then they can only wait and hope and say nice things to Joe in an attempt to get that scene, which would have never happened if they never knew about that scene in the first place. Little bit of pot stirring there, IMO.

Spoiler:

Joe talked about that scene ages ago, way before they started editing and cutting...or perhaps even shooting the episode, so it's not like he's just telling them today along with the news that it won't be there.

[Suzotchka]

Just because one is anti (and speaking for this anti) - does not mean they want the show to fail. It does not mean they want others to not enjoy the show. It means, for me, that I loved the show so much, and the way I see it going now is very sad. I want it restored to it's former glory, and I won't accept anything less.

People can share my opinion or not. It doesn't matter. My opinion is just that - my opinion.

As I said before there are *many* reasons for the fall in ratings. NOTHING can be excluded.