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I have to reply to this..and I hope it wasn't my comment that brought this about..*most likely I did* but I agree...I hate to sound like an old record player...*jeepers do you young ones even know what a record player is*
but this is my first and only experience with any of this stuff online and shipping for a pairing with such conviction and passion....yes, I see romance in everything, but I've never gone this far...*sickening, I know* but to experience and then read the things going on in these canon wars or whatever they are called, is not only sad and discouraging *although I'm still going strong* but very inmature and in my opinion, not worth it and in the end, it will only hurt the show....
I would love to be able to chat with others who ship for other pairings..and I do have a couple of buds...hehehehehe...it's fun and it can happen...I would love to share with others what they see shippy and then throw them some J/T confetti all over them and then have them throw some at me..and then grabbed them with Witchy's broom and take AG's ingenious shippy glasses and just let everything out and have fun! Jeepers...but, not everyone can do that..and actually, I haven't found anyone that I can really do that with...but in the end..we can get along and just chat with our respective others about something else...that would be sooo cool! and over in the Teyla thread and Wow thread..we've been able to accomplish some of that...and that makes me smile!
Now, this brings up an interesting point...my question is why? Why is this show causing so much commotion...? Why is there so much animosity towards the different shippersr...why?
but over in the Tielan LJ..she brought up an interesting point...and I hope she doesn't mind that I bring about her idea here...but go on to her LJ and read what I'm talking about..
http://tielan.livejournal.com/47333.html
but basically I got a couple of thoughts that sprung up from her posting...
From what I understand, it seems that John/Teyla shippers are but a handful few...it seems that the amount of supporters for this ship aren't as vocal or as involved in other stuff as strongly as other shippers...for example...the amount of fics for J/T are so much less than other ships, the amount of sites supporting J/T are so much less, the vids, wallpapers, sigs, icons, avatars, etc...of J/T are so much less than others and my question is WHY?
Why is J/T so less popular and why even the ones that do support it stand in the background...? What makes one ship more popular than the other?
My question to you guys, what made you fall for John and Teyla? was it something physically attractive, was it the chemistry, was it the scenes? what made you choose John/Teyla as the couple to ship for and why do you continue to support it? what would make you side to another ship? I know many of the other shippers for this thread have left and are shipping another pairing? why? what happened that made them change their minds?
Now, I am not trying to start a shipper war here people..I am curious to see what made this ship in the first place and what keeps it going..and why is it that people that don't see this ship are so adamant and so strongly oppositional of not only the pairing but sometimes even of the characters and the actors themselves....Why is J/T so unpopular? and why are there not enough of us? and why aren't we as supportive and/or producing the type of stuff that the other ships seem to produce...? is there a reason?
Now, I have my own thoughts on this..but I am curious to see what you guys think...I thought this might bring some good quality discussions..now, please, just keep in mind, this is your opinion, and also there is no need to mention any other ship in specific except J/T...we are not comparing ships..that is not what I am asking..I just think it's interesting to see how people think and choose why they like something and not the other....
To throw in my own two cents about the ship wars...
To put it simply, I don't see what the problem is. First off, it's a TV show, for cryin' out loud! The people who feel the need to pick fights over it need to get a life. Secondly, as several people (myself included) have already mentioned, the interpretation is half the fun. If we all interpreted it the same way, this forum would get incredibly dull. Everybody has their own opinion and is entitled to it.
I read bunches of John/Liz fics because the writers are talented and the stories are good. Most of the GWers I know outside of this thread are Sparky, Ronon/Teyla, slashers, non-shippers, or anti-ship. And you know what? I don't care. There can be peace, people!
To put it simply, I don't see what the problem is. First off, it's a TV show, for cryin' out loud! The people who feel the need to pick fights over it need to get a life. Secondly, as several people (myself included) have already mentioned, the interpretation is half the fun. If we all interpreted it the same way, this forum would get incredibly dull. Everybody has their own opinion and is entitled to it.
I read bunches of John/Liz fics because the writers are talented and the stories are good. Most of the GWers I know outside of this thread are Sparky, Ronon/Teyla, slashers, non-shippers, or anti-ship. And you know what? I don't care. There can be peace, people!
but this is my first and only experience with any of this stuff online and shipping for a pairing with such conviction and passion....yes, I see romance in everything, but I've never gone this far...*sickening, I know* but to experience and then read the things going on in these canon wars or whatever they are called, is not only sad and discouraging *although I'm still going strong* but very inmature and in my opinion, not worth it and in the end, it will only hurt the show....
I would love to be able to chat with others who ship for other pairings..and I do have a couple of buds...hehehehehe...it's fun and it can happen...I would love to share with others what they see shippy and then throw them some J/T confetti all over them and then have them throw some at me..and then grabbed them with Witchy's broom and take AG's ingenious shippy glasses and just let everything out and have fun! Jeepers...but, not everyone can do that..and actually, I haven't found anyone that I can really do that with...but in the end..we can get along and just chat with our respective others about something else...that would be sooo cool! and over in the Teyla thread and Wow thread..we've been able to accomplish some of that...and that makes me smile!
Well all I have to say about shipper wars is this. I've been shiping for sci-fi parings for about 10 years or more now. I've never in my life seen people get angry over it till just recently. I pretty much keep to folks who like what I like, and was very much surprised that when I ventured out and declared a preference for John and Teyla I was roundly abused and scolded for liking them. I won't get into what other pairing these *lovely* people shipped for, but suffice it to say that I never went near any of them again on purpose.
I don't understand the need to stir up trouble and I don't understand why people are publically attacked for supporting a couple in a TV show. In other fandoms I frequent, they are content to live and let live- I'm not sure why it's been different here, but it definitely is.
I don't understand the need to stir up trouble and I don't understand why people are publically attacked for supporting a couple in a TV show. In other fandoms I frequent, they are content to live and let live- I'm not sure why it's been different here, but it definitely is.
but over in the Tielan LJ..she brought up an interesting point...and I hope she doesn't mind that I bring about her idea here...but go on to her LJ and read what I'm talking about..
http://tielan.livejournal.com/47333.html
but basically I got a couple of thoughts that sprung up from her posting...
From what I understand, it seems that John/Teyla shippers are but a handful few...it seems that the amount of supporters for this ship aren't as vocal or as involved in other stuff as strongly as other shippers...for example...the amount of fics for J/T are so much less than other ships, the amount of sites supporting J/T are so much less, the vids, wallpapers, sigs, icons, avatars, etc...of J/T are so much less than others and my question is WHY?
Why is J/T so less popular and why even the ones that do support it stand in the background...? What makes one ship more popular than the other?
My question to you guys, what made you fall for John and Teyla? was it something physically attractive, was it the chemistry, was it the scenes? what made you choose John/Teyla as the couple to ship for and why do you continue to support it? what would make you side to another ship? I know many of the other shippers for this thread have left and are shipping another pairing? why? what happened that made them change their minds?
Now, I am not trying to start a shipper war here people..I am curious to see what made this ship in the first place and what keeps it going..and why is it that people that don't see this ship are so adamant and so strongly oppositional of not only the pairing but sometimes even of the characters and the actors themselves....Why is J/T so unpopular? and why are there not enough of us? and why aren't we as supportive and/or producing the type of stuff that the other ships seem to produce...? is there a reason?
Now, I have my own thoughts on this..but I am curious to see what you guys think...I thought this might bring some good quality discussions..now, please, just keep in mind, this is your opinion, and also there is no need to mention any other ship in specific except J/T...we are not comparing ships..that is not what I am asking..I just think it's interesting to see how people think and choose why they like something and not the other....
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