John Sheppard/Teyla Emmagan Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[asgard30]

It's just that...

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As an Athosian, she understand the dangers of living in a dangerous world. This issue was already addressed in Quarantine. She's obviously not been communicating with John, her team captain, about returning (hence the confusion in the beginning).

Think about it John's way. He wants her to stay on the team. Woolsey is telling him to pick someone else. I think it was him being upset that he felt like he was trapped in a corner.

Unfortunately, that came from Teyla not making a decision.

Had Ronon not been captured how long would it have taken her to make a decision? To me, her character has never been one to "sit back and let other people fight for me" so her struggle seemed out of place. That's just my .02.

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Yeah but we know since Reunion that she always had a doubt if leaving her people was a good choice and they disappear she feels that it was her fault. John feels the same everytime but he is harsh on his leader his team is always here to support him. This is not the same for Teyla she's exactly in the same case than John except that in this case it's John the leader so it's normal she's angry after him. I think she was in a difficult situation chooses between a new life or an old make the same faults (in letting her people and now her baby) or fighting for their security. We saw her risks her people and herself if I can say for Charrin funeral but it was their custom their choices. The road was right here she had choices and even if she had stayed with her people it wasn't for someone to survey her but to protect her people the better she can IMO I think it was a continuity of all even quarantine now the baby is a reality and a new one to take care. All the people that she knows risk their life everyday so to who could she gives him ?

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But it just seems everyone is laying the blame squarely on her shoulders...I mean who can blame her for wanting to do the right thing for her child and her people....

I mean she just got them back and she's a new mum,i can't really blame her for struggling to figure out what to do..

And i can understand why she was angry at Shep for not telling her about the mission to rescue Ronon.....Like i said if it was any other mission i would understand John's frustration but this was Ronon,the closest thing she has to a brother and i don't know about anyone else but if it was me i'd do anything to save my brother....If it was the other way about i think John would be seriously pissed too!

ITA with you

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Well like i said this was Ronon we're talking about.....Why couldn't he have brought it up after they rescued Ronon.....How would John have felt if they went on a mission to try save Ronon without him.....He wouldn't have been happy at all..

Well i wasn't that happy with the Teyla stortline in S4 and some of the writing either but i think it's improved greatly so far for her in S5..

Well if it's jealousy that's spurring him on he's got no right to take it out on Teyla...He didn't tell her how he felt so who can blame her for moving on with her life,he has just got to face the facts that Teyla has found someone else and move on..

I don't place any of the blame on Teyla either...

Guess i'm the only one on this forum at the moment on Teyla's side on this...Everyone else seems to be blaming her for everything

Maybe i should take a break for a while!

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Hey if they were gone without Shep it would have been the worst thing of the show everybody would be screaming and crying that Shep is the show and it's a shame that we let him down alone with a baby and his people to take care and alone with nobody to help him take a decision and with harsh people screaming at him and all his friend letting him lol. Yeah Ronon needed someone to help him but as for Critical Mass I think Teyla needed someone and it's sad for us JT but I think the one was Kanaan.

Really...

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Well at least someone is praising her!

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It's not you......It's just,I feel alot of the times Teyla gets bashed and blamed for some things that aren't her fault or beyond her control and sometimes i feel like i'm the only one on her side or see's things from her perspective....It's a very lonely place being a Teyla fan...

Yeah it's just a TV show but football is just a sport except for the folks like me who are passionate about they're team When you invest so much time and passion in something it's hard not to feel the passion and emotion!

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Yeah i would go to hell and back to protect Teyla but i sometimes feel i'm alone on this....I feel sometimes i'm the only one who see's her POV and who's on her side...

And in regards to that scene where she was angry with him for not telling her about the mission to rescue Ronon...Like i said if it was any other mission i would totally understand John's stance on this but this was Ronon.....Well let's put it this way,would you do anything to protect you're brother if he was in trouble..I would like to think i would and i think Teyla would to as would John...

Well neither of them has made a move and i don't blame either because i don't think either of them really know just how much they feel for each other and neither would want to ruin what they've got so we're stuck to the status quo but life is too short and sometimes you just have to take the chance or it will pass you by....Life is full of regrets and i hope this isn't gonna be one of them...

Well y'all know i wasn't very happy with alot of S4 and i wasn't happy with the pregnancy storyline either an i was hoping against hope that Mivhael still had something to do with it.......I still think there's something about this whole thing that we don't know yet or it could just be wishful thinking on my part!

Shep has so many fans who stick by him....But Teyla doesn't exactly have alot of fans so i guess i go that extra mile to protect her because i feel i'm the only one that does!

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Yeah I'm totally the same I'm not sure to tell it here with a lot of people reading and I don't want to bother you but it's sad to say and I will say that Stargate is a great part of my life I know it's a TV show and life shows me this but it's too one of the few things in my life lol and I live it passionately like with sports lol and ITA that Teyla is a lot bashed on the contrary of Shep and I don't always understand why it has to do with favoritism lol

Yes, I did. Thank you.



Ditto!!!



I agree.



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ROFL!!!!

Where is that darn watergun!!!


Ok. My POV on BT

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I really enjoyed it. I could've used more whump, I swear JoeM said something about that, but I guess I was wrong. Couldn't be that luck to get 3 eps of physical whump, but emo whump is good too.
I think Jason was awesome in this ep especially at the end. Very well done and if I was alone it the room, I think I would've cried. Especially when John and Teyla were watching over him.
Ok, I hate to say this, but as much as I want Kanaan gone, I did like him in this ep. He was able to relieve some burden off of Teyla's mind. I don't see a real connect either and I hope that it stays that way, but we'll see.

Ok. This is not Teyla bashing, far from it. I actually liked how the writers did the scene with Teyla and John and him not informing her of leaving on the hunch.
Here me out. She's in the middle of two worlds. Her old one and a new one. Being on John's team and him calling when they are going on missions and the new where she has other responsibilities and needs to think of that too. She's a new mom and alot happened to her, lets not forget that. She just got reunited with Kanaan and her people. I'm sure some of that was playing with her decission too. I know there are other women in RL that make these decissions too and I know that Rachel wanted to be able to share that as well.
As for John, I don't think he was harsh. Listen to the tone in his voice. It's gentle and understanding like in the locker room scene in SoW, maybe even more gentle.
You know he wants he back. He said it right in the beginning of the ep. I saw him feeling a little hurt that she was upset with him and I don't think that he wanted to feel that burden of always wondering if Teyla wants to be on or not. Did that make sense?
I think both actions were warrented. She relies on him alot and you can see that she doesn't want to leave his team. I also think that John had to tell her that it was up to her and it shouldn't be his responsibilities and he understood her as well.

Everyone did an awesome job in the ep. Lots of funny parts to break up the serious ones. All and all a really good ep.

Great pov really well said as all the pov that I've seen but I particularly agree with this one

[asgard30]

Linda, I can see Teyla's side of the story too!

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She has spent the last year wondering if she had been with her people would they have been taken? Can't be something easy to live with. Arrogant perhaps, but not easy. Now, she has them back and she wants to continue to protect them. To her, that means being physically there with them. And, while when someone is pregnant, they may abstractly think there will be no problem going back to work, once the baby is born, a whole new perspective takes hold.

Yes, John was impatient. He had a right to be impatient. But I also see where Teyla is coming from.

My two cents.

Really well said

Well, I think the whole point in BAMSR was to show his shock and jealousy.

As for Hope channel.

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I use to have a Christian Satelite system that showed it and they had some good shows. Unfortunately, the Network hosting all these stations had to close down.

Hmmmmm. I guess no more treats for the bad Wraith Kitty then.

Oh and a BT sig.
No "B" word Linda.

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This is awesome and a really touching scene

Love how you wrote this regarding BT...

Here are my thoughts:

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Overall, I didn't like the episode at all. Ronon was not the Ronon that I wanted to see, I guess maybe I will forever compare the Ronon episodes to Sateda, and they don't come even close....I do miss Cooper!!!

So, that in mind, this is the JT thread, so overall...not a JT episode. I LOVE Teyla in this one, btw. Rachel was PERFECT! It showed everything that I have been stating about Teyla all along.

Anyone who has children can completely understand where she's coming from. That out of the way, I'm so glad this wasn't about Kanan, but as I suspected about her child.
I think for her the kicker ended knowing that if anything happened to her, K would take care of her child. That has to be reassuring. I know when I went back to work, having my mother take care of my children meant that I didn't have to think of them while I was away from them because she was taking better care of them than me. And I think Teyla needed to hear that from Kanan.

Their scenes together were sweet, now we have a side of Kanan that we didn't know he had. I was surprised by his words though. You would think that he woudl want her there. See, I don't think that would be John's reactions if that was his child and she was his woman, but that's another story and I won't get into that because what's the point.

So, Teyla was having the doubts that are expected of her to have. I thought I would find it awkward to have her go to Woosely but the writers did very well. It made sense.
As for JT's scene together.

I love how you wrote this Everloving and I couldn't agree with you more.

From a military standpoint, Teyla was putting John in a tough predicament by waiting this long and putting him in a position where here he was with a new leader that he had to dealt with pressuring him to have a new team member because she was coming and going. So, I understand where John was coming from for his frustration, and he was very clear with her because he told her that was hard on him too....but he omitted a piece, from my point of view....that piece where I think his anger and frustration really came from...it must be hard on him to see Teyla with Kanan or to know that Teyla is with Kanan and then to think that he might loose her all together.

So, yes..he was rough on her a bit too loud, but understandable. We are all humans and he was reacting on his emotions on overdrive. With the whole thing with Ronon and now Teyla, that was tough on him. Very well played by Joe. So, a lot of angst between our duo. And yet, I think Teyla knew all along that she didn't want to leave the team. I just think that at the end of the day, she needed to hear that the baby would be fine if she was no longer around. And she had Kanan's support. That has to mean a lot for her. Any parent that is or isn't with their child's father, still wants that father's support for their child. That's normal and to be expected.

That first scene...Yes, Teyla is with Kanan. Again, I prepared mysel for that, and that is to be expected. That is the man that she slept with and the man that she loves and has chosen. Her feelings for John may still be there, but are hidden and resigned to never surfaced because she made that decision the minute she went with Kanan way before she was pregnant.

These two are clearly in a bittersweet turmoil. I don't know where or what the writers are going to do. It looks like Kanan will be around for a bit if not for most of the season. So, we may not get too much JT moments. But that's fine with me.

I didn't get no loving from K/T and that was encouraging despite the fact that he is living with her.

But again, Teyla will do what she feels is right. She went and is with Kanan. But she's also standing by John's side. Noticed how her loyalty to John and her team remains as strong as ever and has not dimished because of her child. That's the Teyla that I know and love!!! and that's why she's stands above the rest and the reason why John knows that he's lost something good.

I just hope that someday he'll be able to tell her. And so will she. But for now, I still love my JT!

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Wow awesome pov ITA with a lot of things except that I loved the ep and personaly I see chemistry between KT but I have to agree is this from my shipper glasses but I think it's a realtion of understanding and friendship t be honest I saw him as his confident and if he said that he lets his place I wouldn't be surprised but a great ep for Teyla and this is in another post but so well said I agree beautiful Teyla ep and awesome depht for her character I really loved it

Please READ.

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Well, at this point I think I'm going to have stay away from the thread a while. Not forever but, a while. At least until next Friday. I'm reading everyone's thoughts on Broken Ties and I can see all the points. But, now, I am just so conflicted it's making me crazy. I understand both T's POV and J's POV. It's not an easy thing for either one of them.

I've even read some non'ship pov's just to see what they had to say.

All I really know is that the whole T/K thing did not display anytime of 'love'. If that makes sense. It really just gave off the vibe of just two people who had a baby together. But, not in love with each other. I hate this kind of crap because it makes me crazy. So, please don't take all this the wrong way but, I can't handle it right now. I know it's because, I love the characters and show so much that really we all have our own vision or whatever you want to call it about how everything should go.

And,if I don't take a break, I'm going to start bashing my fave characters and what I love about the show. And, really, that is not me. I really luffs all of you guys! But, for now, Elfie is going to take a back seat a while if I can hack it for awhile.

I hope you will feel better soon and if it helps you I understand good luck and see you soon

[asgard30]

Wow. I'm amazed how quickly I managed to write this sequal.
I started straight after posting earlier- & it's just been uploaded to Live Journal.

It's been named John's Miracle as I couldn't think what else to name it that wouldn't give too much away......plus this one leaves some mystery to the last 2 scenes......

Linky: John's Miracle

As a re-cap, I suggest you read this again: Family Love & Strength, No Matter What
As I hint at what was going on in that in the sequal.


Enjoy it Elf!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember to comment afterwards!!!!!!

EDIT: Just remembered, there's a really great tear-jerking moment in it- hopefully I can succeed in creating a drawing of it......... Will tell you what bit it is once Elf has read it.

Great I will read it as soon as I can

One last thing before I head off into the hills.

This is from JM's blog... the entire script is there and a run through on decisions and some changes that were made and this is an excerpt of the orginal draft of the JT scene in the corridor.

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INT. CORRIDOR - ATLANTIS — DAY: John and Teyla have it out.

Whew! In the first draft, Sheppard was not quite so restrained:
Sheppard: You’re the one having second thoughts about rejoining the team. What the hell am I supposed to do? Give you the option every time we’re going off-world? I can’t do that. If I’m heading into action, I need to know that every member of my team is committed to being on the team - today, tomorrow, a year from now.Beat. Teyla nods, reprimanded - which causes Sheppard to feel bad.

SHEPPARD: (sighs) Look, I’m sorry -




And to me John was totally justified in saying what he did and I think Teyla reasliese this here as well.

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1- ITA with you as a Teylafan I'm really really happy
2-as a JT fan I'm really conflicted Tielan wrote it so well yeah I think we will lost JT shippers and I have to say that I don't know what to think myself I love this but I didn't like their relationship in this ep and as a shipper I think too that it's perhaps because of Kanaan that Shep is disturbd and I'm really not a fan of angst so it bothered me a little. What bothered me a little too in this ship and finally on the show is that you defend your character and the others are not so great. I think it's what I saw in threads I like Teyla and I'm bothered if Keller gains screen time or if it's McKay ... fan of Teyla I'm not too fond of John reaction but on the contratry fan of Johnfind Teyla out of character I don't know myself enough in ships to know if this is normal or no. What is sure is that they put a rock in the water (?) or they make holes (?) and I don't know if it's wanted or no if no why finally the authors talk of this while they always let the shippers out ? In fact I'm more bothered by the authors reaction I fear they made something terrible later my problem with K is not K I like him and I think he brings something to Teyla my problem is what people will think if we have JT scenes now they need to be all from John what disturbed m a little Teyla hadn't more choice now she's stuck or she will be criticize a lot. I miss my JT moments and perhaps we will have more deep feelings but I fear they are less and I hope this isn't a too much price because their relationship as ship or no are the great moments for me of the show. I don't know if I'm clear

I also came to drop this off

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Forgot to post this Well

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Wow they are really awesome

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Youhou thanks

JM's Blog regarding BT.

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INT. TEYLA’S QUARTERS — NIGHT: Teyla confides in Kanaan.

Contrary to the expectations of certain fans, we killed off neither Kanaan nor Teyla’s baby. We made a conscious decision to give Teyla a happy ending of sorts, allowing her to be a mother and head off-world, safe in the knowledge that her son is in good hands.

This is exactly how I saw that scene and the conflict that I saw in Teyla. She never questioned whether she be back on the team or not. She was clear on what she wanted to do, her doubts came in knowing who would be there with her child when she was gone.

I liked that JM mentioned this though because again, it gives Teyla more character. It has nothing to do with her relationship with Kanan, at least not yet. They haven't presented that side of her, they've simply showing Teyla as a mother, knowing that Kanan will be there for her son is important to her. It makes sense and it gives Teyla character.

Now, see if this had been John's baby, I think this whole thing would have played out very differently. But I like what this is doing to Teyla's character and I like that the real conflict and the real character depth for Teyla is extending as her role as a mom and a team member, nothing to do with her relationship with Kanan. I hope I never see that part. I want that part to be with John.

ITA

[NinaM]

JM's Blog regarding BT.

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INT. TEYLA’S QUARTERS — NIGHT: Teyla confides in Kanaan.

Contrary to the expectations of certain fans, we killed off neither Kanaan nor Teyla’s baby. We made a conscious decision to give Teyla a happy ending of sorts, allowing her to be a mother and head off-world, safe in the knowledge that her son is in good hands.

This is exactly how I saw that scene and the conflict that I saw in Teyla. She never questioned whether she be back on the team or not. She was clear on what she wanted to do, her doubts came in knowing who would be there with her child when she was gone.

I liked that JM mentioned this though because again, it gives Teyla more character. It has nothing to do with her relationship with Kanan, at least not yet. They haven't presented that side of her, they've simply showing Teyla as a mother, knowing that Kanan will be there for her son is important to her. It makes sense and it gives Teyla character.

Now, see if this had been John's baby, I think this whole thing would have played out very differently. But I like what this is doing to Teyla's character and I like that the real conflict and the real character depth for Teyla is extending as her role as a mom and a team member, nothing to do with her relationship with Kanan. I hope I never see that part. I want that part to be with John.

Oh trust me I don't ever wanna see that side either..would only make me wanna hurl...

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I don't see anything between them... at all... besides there is zero chemistry..like I said yesterday that had Elfie laughing..it was like watching 2 dead squids...

I can't remember who pointed out on a list I'm on... that when she was talking to Kanaan.. he says your son...uhm okay..dude isn't he yours too..what is up with that.. wouldn't the correct wording be OUR son... whatever..get rid of him...he is boring me to tears... I rather watch Rodney's bathtub then him...or my own bathroom...

[Linda06]

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[asgard30]

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Wow this is an amazing sig beautiful

I just saw The Seed

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and I really liked this ep. I really like the balalnce between the characters it's really well done and I will be selfish but I was really happy with Teyla part.
My problem is that I don't understand everything where is Kanaan ? I didn't heard his name is this with this cure that they cure Kanaan ? Ok I'm really lost I ask myself if I won't have to see it again lol because I read what you said a little and I didn't hear all of what you said

[LoveConquers]

Woohoo! Scifi.com has the complete Comic Con 08 Atlantis panel video up, so I just got done watching it and here is the EXACT quote from the J/T question. LOVE it!!!!

The person said asked if we would see romance between Teyla and Sheppard or if Teyla would stay with Kanaan:

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Martin Gero: "Well, look, she just had a baby. (All laugh). That is NOT what she is thinking about right now! (More laughter) Um, I don't know, Joe, I think they have a very special relationship that (puts his hands together) there's a lot of gray area between those two. So that's something we're going to explore this year."

Brad Wright: "Well the guy...Sheppard has risked his life for that woman so many times. (Joe nodding and grinning beside him) In the ark, he flew a MOON to the ground to save Teyla! So there's deep affection there."

Joe: "I'm always open to those possibilities." (All laugh) "I-I just get my marching orders." (All laugh more) "Yeah, she looks great. She just had a baby and she looks better."

Martin Gero: "She looked better 9 months pregnant than I will ever look in my entire life!" (More laughter then next question)

[cc_mac]

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Beautiful.

[LoveConquers]

JM's Blog regarding BT.

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INT. TEYLA’S QUARTERS — NIGHT: Teyla confides in Kanaan.

Contrary to the expectations of certain fans, we killed off neither Kanaan nor Teyla’s baby. We made a conscious decision to give Teyla a happy ending of sorts, allowing her to be a mother and head off-world, safe in the knowledge that her son is in good hands.

This is exactly how I saw that scene and the conflict that I saw in Teyla. She never questioned whether she be back on the team or not. She was clear on what she wanted to do, her doubts came in knowing who would be there with her child when she was gone.

I liked that JM mentioned this though because again, it gives Teyla more character. It has nothing to do with her relationship with Kanan, at least not yet. They haven't presented that side of her, they've simply showing Teyla as a mother, knowing that Kanan will be there for her son is important to her. It makes sense and it gives Teyla character.

Now, see if this had been John's baby, I think this whole thing would have played out very differently. But I like what this is doing to Teyla's character and I like that the real conflict and the real character depth for Teyla is extending as her role as a mom and a team member, nothing to do with her relationship with Kanan. I hope I never see that part. I want that part to be with John.

I agree Camy. And JM's comments about giving Teyla a happy ending with Kanaan are deliberately speaking about the immediate here and now. We have a lot of other comments by other producers and even by him that all is not over. Just hang on girls. There is so much more to come.

[TeylaFan]

Woohoo! Scifi.com has the complete Comic Con 08 Atlantis panel video up, so I just got done watching it and here is the EXACT quote from the J/T question. LOVE it!!!!

The person said asked if we would see romance between Teyla and Sheppard or if Teyla would stay with Kanaan:

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Martin Gero: "Well, look, she just had a baby. (All laugh). That is NOT what she is thinking about right now! (More laughter) Um, I don't know, Joe, I think they have a very special relationship that (puts his hands together) there's a lot of gray area between those two. So that's something we're going to explore this year."

Brad Wright: "Well the guy...Sheppard has risked his life for that woman so many times. (Joe nodding and grinning beside him) In the ark, he flew a MOON to the ground to save Teyla! So there's deep affection there."

Joe: "I'm always open to those possibilities." (All laugh) "I-I just get my marching orders." (All laugh more) "Yeah, she looks great. She just had a baby and she looks better."

Martin Gero: "She looked better 9 months pregnant than I will ever look in my entire life!" (More laughter then next question)

Aw! That's so sweet. Thank you for the exact quote!!

[asgard30]

Woohoo! Scifi.com has the complete Comic Con 08 Atlantis panel video up, so I just got done watching it and here is the EXACT quote from the J/T question. LOVE it!!!!

The person said asked if we would see romance between Teyla and Sheppard or if Teyla would stay with Kanaan:

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Martin Gero: "Well, look, she just had a baby. (All laugh). That is NOT what she is thinking about right now! (More laughter) Um, I don't know, Joe, I think they have a very special relationship that (puts his hands together) there's a lot of gray area between those two. So that's something we're going to explore this year."

Brad Wright: "Well the guy...Sheppard has risked his life for that woman so many times. (Joe nodding and grinning beside him) In the ark, he flew a MOON to the ground to save Teyla! So there's deep affection there."

Joe: "I'm always open to those possibilities." (All laugh) "I-I just get my marching orders." (All laugh more) "Yeah, she looks great. She just had a baby and she looks better."

Martin Gero: "She looked better 9 months pregnant than I will ever look in my entire life!" (More laughter then next question)

Thank you so much

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yeah really interesting of course I don't know what to think no romance but this will be explored this year I have to say that I don't lost hope in JT but I don't know what to expect either so thanks for letting us know

I agree Camy. And JM's comments about giving Teyla a happy ending with Kanaan are deliberately speaking about the immediate here and now. We have a lot of other comments by other producers and even by him that all is not over. Just hang on girls. There is so much more to come.

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Fortunately you're here to encourage us I suppose I have to wait and see but I don't like angst and I find Shep sad I don't know there isn't joke nothing. I cross my fingers but as i said if the season is so great as the first 3 eps (not completely for Jt) but awesome on many points I think I will really be happy

[CazzBlade]

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Yay! Thanx Linda

I can't remember who pointed out on a list I'm on... that when she was talking to Kanaan.. he says your son...uhm okay..dude isn't he yours too..what is up with that.. wouldn't the correct wording be OUR son... whatever..get rid of him...he is boring me to tears... I rather watch Rodney's bathtub then him...or my own bathroom...[/SPOILERS]

I noticed that too, not sure what to make of it

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Beautiful!

Woohoo! Scifi.com has the complete Comic Con 08 Atlantis panel video up, so I just got done watching it and here is the EXACT quote from the J/T question. LOVE it!!!!

The person said asked if we would see romance between Teyla and Sheppard or if Teyla would stay with Kanaan:

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Martin Gero: "Well, look, she just had a baby. (All laugh). That is NOT what she is thinking about right now! (More laughter) Um, I don't know, Joe, I think they have a very special relationship that (puts his hands together) there's a lot of gray area between those two. So that's something we're going to explore this year."

Brad Wright: "Well the guy...Sheppard has risked his life for that woman so many times. (Joe nodding and grinning beside him) In the ark, he flew a MOON to the ground to save Teyla! So there's deep affection there."

Joe: "I'm always open to those possibilities." (All laugh) "I-I just get my marching orders." (All laugh more) "Yeah, she looks great. She just had a baby and she looks better."

Martin Gero: "She looked better 9 months pregnant than I will ever look in my entire life!" (More laughter then next question)

Hehe! Nice ambiguous answer

I agree Camy. And JM's comments about giving Teyla a happy ending with Kanaan are deliberately speaking about the immediate here and now. We have a lot of other comments by other producers and even by him that all is not over. Just hang on girls. There is so much more to come.

Totally agree

[LoveConquers]

Thank you so much

Spoiler:

yeah really interesting of course I don't know what to think no romance but this will be explored this year I have to say that I don't lost hope in JT but I don't know what to expect either so thanks for letting us know

Spoiler:

Fortunately you're here to encourage us I suppose I have to wait and see but I don't like angst and I find Shep sad I don't know there isn't joke nothing. I cross my fingers but as i said if the season is so great as the first 3 eps (not completely for Jt) but awesome on many points I think I will really be happy

LOL, yeah, it can definitely be confusing. But while it all seems conflicting, it's not. They answer everything very vaguely, but also very literally. They said there would be no OUTRIGHT romance between John and Teyla, which isn't a big surprise since this is Stargate and they never really do outright romance unfortunately. But no outright romance doesn't mean that nothing will happen with J/T. Quite the opposite actually, as we've seen by other quotes, including this latest one from the Con. We know they plan to continue to explore their relationship. Which also shows that there is a plan and a reason to show moments like we saw in S&R followed by moments in BT. It is not inconsistency. We have just not seen the whole picture yet. It's a puzzle, with parts being filled in slowly one at a time and will make sense in the end.

It's easy to get impatient and want to give up. We know what we want, and we also know what we're sick to death of seeing. But unfortunately we have no control over what will happen or how it will happen or at what pace it will happen. Enjoy it for what it is and how it comes. Otherwise you'll just end up making yourself miserable and start to resent the show or even the ship. I've been through this so many times over the past twenty years of shipping. If you hang in there, accept what you can't control and enjoy what we do get, it will be rewarding in the end. It may not be fully what you wanted, but that's the nature of TV and of shipping.

For those finding themselves in need of a break, take it. There is nothing wrong with that! I've been there many times myself. When you find yourself becoming emotionally impacted to the point you can't enjoy it anymore, then it's no longer healthy. Take some time away, regain perspective, and come back when you find the fun again. Because this is supposed to be a fun escape. And part of that escape is the emotional roller coaster the characters put you on. Buckle in for the good and the bad and enjoy little moments that made you fall in love with them in the first place. And endure the ride for the big finale. It's worth it.

[NinaM]

Woohoo! Scifi.com has the complete Comic Con 08 Atlantis panel video up, so I just got done watching it and here is the EXACT quote from the J/T question. LOVE it!!!!

The person said asked if we would see romance between Teyla and Sheppard or if Teyla would stay with Kanaan:

Spoiler:

Martin Gero: "Well, look, she just had a baby. (All laugh). That is NOT what she is thinking about right now! (More laughter) Um, I don't know, Joe, I think they have a very special relationship that (puts his hands together) there's a lot of gray area between those two. So that's something we're going to explore this year."

Brad Wright: "Well the guy...Sheppard has risked his life for that woman so many times. (Joe nodding and grinning beside him) In the ark, he flew a MOON to the ground to save Teyla! So there's deep affection there."

Joe: "I'm always open to those possibilities." (All laugh) "I-I just get my marching orders." (All laugh more) "Yeah, she looks great. She just had a baby and she looks better."

Martin Gero: "She looked better 9 months pregnant than I will ever look in my entire life!" (More laughter then next question)

Hrm intresting..not just the answer itself but also the fact that they all seems to take turns answering..yes with jokes and stuff but hey atleast it seems way more then we normaly get when a ship question is asked..you most would expect.."ah who knows,,if wanna know keep watching" or something to that effect..

I'm not sure if I can see that video though...I think I've had problems with watching videos on SciFi site due to the fact I don't live in the US..like that were all Atlantis fans live.. *sigh*

LOL, yeah, it can definitely be confusing. But while it all seems conflicting, it's not. They answer everything very vaguely, but also very literally. They said there would be no OUTRIGHT romance between John and Teyla, which isn't a big surprise since this is Stargate and they never really do outright romance unfortunately. But no outright romance doesn't mean that nothing will happen with J/T. Quite the opposite actually, as we've seen by other quotes, including this latest one from the Con. We know they plan to continue to explore their relationship. Which also shows that there is a plan and a reason to show moments like we saw in S&R followed by moments in BT. It is not inconsistency. We have just not seen the whole picture yet. It's a puzzle, with parts being filled in slowly one at a time and will make sense in the end.

It's easy to get impatient and want to give up. We know what we want, and we also know what we're sick to death of seeing. But unfortunately we have no control over what will happen or how it will happen or at what pace it will happen. Enjoy it for what it is and how it comes. Otherwise you'll just end up making yourself miserable and start to resent the show or even the ship. I've been through this so many times over the past twenty years of shipping. If you hang in there, accept what you can't control and enjoy what we do get, it will be rewarding in the end. It may not be fully what you wanted, but that's the nature of TV and of shipping.

For those finding themselves in need of a break, take it. There is nothing wrong with that! I've been there many times myself. When you find yourself becoming emotionally impacted to the point you can't enjoy it anymore, then it's no longer healthy. Take some time away, regain perspective, and come back when you find the fun again. Because this is supposed to be a fun escape. And part of that escape is the emotional roller coaster the characters put you on. Buckle in for the good and the bad and enjoy little moments that made you fall in love with them in the first place. And endure the ride for the big finale. It's worth it.

At times I feel like I can't handle any more...

why is it that a ship is always they source of angst and tons and tons of stumbling blocks..in the end it will just feel so over done and old it's not even funny.. and it gets harder to beleive in things when they take an established couple and mess with them and put every stumbling block possible up and angst and new men and new women.. in the end it just feels like that is all ships are good in the writers eye..to mess with them.. sometime I just feel why is the use to even bring in some form of romance and then they can't see it through.. it's like that is the only purpose when it comes to the writers..they toss in a relationship only to break it apart in the end..it's like that is their play and fun...

[NinaM]

DAILY VOTING
LINKS

Vote for J/T on Instinct in the Favorite Ship Episode Picture Game
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...45066&page=246

Pics to follow for use in game:

Spoiler:

Vote for John And Teyla Favorite Moment Picture Game
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...=50938&page=24
(If one of your favorite J/T moment isn't on the list, simply add it to the list, don't forget to add a pic)

Vote for Favorite Sheppard Episode
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...44977&page=195
(If one of your favorite John episode isn't on the list, simply add it to the list)

Vote for Favorite Teyla Episode
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...45133&page=175
(If one of your favorite Teyla episode isn't on the list, simply add it to the list)

Vote for Favorite Teyla & John Moment
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...=46140&page=95
(If one of your favorite J/T moment isn't on the list, simply add it to the list)

H&H Atlantis Members
Give one point to you favorite member, and take away one point for a member you might not like.
John Sheppard is the winner!

H&H Atlantis Season 1 Episodes
Give one point to your favorite episode, take one point from your least favorite episode. Vote once a day!
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...53390&page=112

H&H Atlantis Season 2 Episodes
Give one point to your favorite episode, take one point from your least favorite episode. Vote once a day!
Conversion is Season 2 winner!

H&H Atlantis Season 3 Episodes
Common Ground is Season 3 winner!

H&H Atlantis Season 4 Episodes
Give one point to your favorite episode, take one point from your least favorite episode. Vote once a day!
Spoils Of War is Season 4 winner!

Teyla Multishipping Pic Game (First to 50)
So there is a new started ship pic game for Teyla..vote up to 3 couples a day if you want. Vote once a day.
We made it into 1st place
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...=55480&page=15

VOTING UPDATE

Well Sanctuary has now made it into the list,,, and can you all believe it ,,Sanctuary is our 29th JT episode on the list...
In the Straight Ship Pic Game (First to 50) John & Teyla managed to snag 1st place.. great work JT shippers I'm sure Camy is proud of us
We also managed to snag 1st place in the Teyla multishipping game. Awesome work JT shippers

LET THE VOTING BEGIN!!!

*NEW*05x04 DAEDALUS VARIATIONS

Watch a preview on the new episode called Daedalus Variations airing August 1.
MGM Promo
http://stargate.mgm.com/
SciFi promo
http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=274150#videoid=279750

RACHEL LUTTRELL OFFICIAL SITE

Check out Rachel's official site.. updated with a little message
Keep showing her your support and write her a comment to show our love for her.
http://www.rachelluttrell.com/note.asp

JEWEL STAITE OFFICIAL SITE

Check out Jewel's official website for latest news and projects and send Jewel a note if you like to show her your support as well.
http://jewelstaite.com/

*NEW*COMIC CON 2008

Watch the whole video clip of a little more then 40 min of the Stargate Atlantis panel on Comic Con 2008. Cast members Joe Flanigan, Robert Picardo & Jewel Staite answer questions and give comments,,and they are a lot of fun to listen to and they seem to have so much fun together. Also there is a question as Steph mentioned about JT, and it's cool they answered it instead of just going over it quick and ignore it.
http://www.scifi.com/comiccon/video/index.php?clip=1

JOE FLANIGAN ON E!

Joe Flanigan was a guest at E!'s Chelsea Lately for like 5 min. Little talk about scifi acting, his other jobs before he became an actor, and a little about Stargate Atlantis fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-nTZkSqawU

*NEW*2008 EMMY NOMINATION

Stargate Atlantis earned an 2008 Emmy nomination for Visual Effects for the episode Adrift.
For more info check out this link.
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/0...ffects_e.shtml

*NEW*LCF FIC BATTLE

Wanna write a fic, and show off all that talent. Well then.. LostCityFound is having a fic battle. Check out the prompts and choose however many you want and start writing..check out fics that has already been written for all these different prompts here.
http://community.livejournal.com/los...nd/330621.html
And here is the prompt list itself.
http://community.livejournal.com/los...nd/330468.html

JT NEWSLETTER

Go check out the JT Newsletter over at LiveJournal... there you will find intresting things found on JT...
Challanges, ficathons, fics, videos, artwork,, and much more..so head on over and check it out.
http://community.livejournal.com/jt_...tter/9384.html

A LITTLE SGA SEGMENT ON EXTRA

A short little segment from EXTRA about SGA, they go behind the scenes on Harmony.
As usual Joe likes to goof up, telling the guy pretty much he has to fall more manly *lol* then again I don't think anyone really does the falling after being stunned as Joe does...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WOqGnTN1MIM

HYPASPACE WEEKLY

A little video of some behind the scenes for season 3, interview with David H, Jason M & Joe F and also a little about the action figures.. and yeah David likes to be funny about the Sheppard action figure *lol*
http://www.spacecast.com/videoplayer_5027.aspx

JOE FLANIGAN ON EXTRA

The video with Joe on Extra is now up on MGM's site... and as usual he is his charming self and funny... gosh do I love his relaxed style and down to earth personality
http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php?id=106

SGA BEHIND THE SCENE SHOTS

Check out behind the scenes shots from Stargate Atlantis, from L.A Times Hollywood Backlot Series. There are pics of for example, Jason, Joe and Rachel. Beware of spoilers.
Respect the copyright on these pics since they were kind enough to share them. Follow the link from this post by Prion.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost....&postcount=142

SGA PROMO COMMERCIALS

There are 3 promo commercials with brief clips of season 5. These are commercials with David Hewlett, Jason Momoa and Joe Flanigan.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=55886

EXCLUSIVE: CAST INTERVIEW FEATURETTE

From Movie web
Exclusice cast interview. Interviews with like Robert Picardo, David Hewlett, Rachel Luttrell and Jason Momoa to name some. A visit to the set where we get a look at what we can expect coming from season 5.
http://www.movieweb.com/video/V08FfG6kZzgODS

NEWS

Read about Peg and Linzi's visit to Stargate Atlantis
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...86#post8426686

Stargate Fan Awards has announced the winners for 2007... go on and check out who won all the different awards
http://www.stargatefanawards.com/2007/winners.php

I will take a little moment to say atleast congrats to Camy & Steph & Seldear (Tielan) & also seems like I have to say congrats to myself too...shocking I have to say for winning awards

John & Teyla Awards 2008 has also announced the winners.. go and check it out at this site..
http://community.livejournal.com/jt_awards/

So saying congrats to for example: Steph, Ruby, Scifan, Elephantgirl, Spectrum, Sheppynette, Quania, Devine, Seldear, Mayra & seems like I have to say congrats to myself too..which is a shocker for me again