Announcement

**drewandian** · 02 October 2009, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

Er...don't get your hopes up too much. The first part is great, but it doesn't quite go the way you might expect. It's still an enjoyable episode, but it kinda depends on how much of a shipper you are. You could be tearing your hair out by the end. Other ship references don't bother me too much, but they're enough in TLG to make me not count it as a Top 10 true 'J/E ship' episode.

On the other hand, the opposite is true of Conversion. The opening sequences have some POV issues as far as ships, but it really hits Sparky hard in the middle and the end.

Apparently I like to torture myself...I just watched the end of S1 (*sigh* oh the whole going off in the jumper thing......) and am going crazy .... I need the resolution! *kicks self for not watching SGA when it was originally aired*

**Eri13** · 02 October 2009, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by drewandian View Post

Apparently I like to torture myself...I just watched the end of S1 (*sigh* oh the whole going off in the jumper thing......) and am going crazy .... I need the resolution! *kicks self for not watching SGA when it was originally aired*

The Siege III on the other hand--that IS an episode you should be on the edge of your seat anticipating. And it will be well worth the wait! Probably even better than you're hoping for.

--->*just a little bit ebil*

**Southern Red** · 02 October 2009, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

The Baltimore story is one of the best in sports history, though. Moving trucks at midnight.

I won't participate in baseball talk, I'm in mourning. The Braves are out of the playoff race.

I did FINALLY re-watch Grace Under Pressure and had to rewind the 'chocolate and peanut butter' scene about 3 times. Good ol' Sparky.

I also watched the first few minutes, pre-John possession of The Long Goodbye. There's a little moment I caught I'd not noticed before. When Elizabeth walks in with Caldwell, John is checking out something on the pod, and Carson casually says "Hello, Doctor Weir."

Watch how fast John whips around when he hears her name. Then, he notices Caldwell with her, and he keeps staring. The shot is a wide-angle and far away, so you really can't tell what's going on on his face, but it's kinda funny because he just keeps looking at them.

http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/2...oodbye085.html
]http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/216/html/the_long_goodbye086.html

Torri looked like she had fun playing Phoebus, and she did it really well. The difference between her and when she 'pretends' Elizabeth is really well done. It just reminded me again how talented some of the actors really were.

I also found it amusing that NO ONE ELSE has a problem with John taking on the role of Thalen. Neither Carson, Caldwell, Rodney--none of them object, save Caldwell's one little remark about John handing over his pistol so 'an alien entity wouldn't be armed'. Not even when John mentions the fact that they were married. All the other guys are enthused to get to try this. What the heck?

I noticed that. It's a wonder John didn't get whiplash. And you can just see his little brain working thinking about what might happen. The lip licking was also at an all time high.

Spoiler:

Originally posted by drewandian View Post

Baseball talk: My Pirates have been REALLY rough this year ('course we kept trading one really good player to bring up three minor leaguers....*shakes head*

) But they're FINALLY starting to win...we'll get 'em next year!

TLG: I read about this episode so that I could understand Nuna's story a little better and all I can say is OMG! The library HAS to get those DVDs to me ASAP!!!!! I wanna see this ep!!!!!!

(I'm not a very patient person to begin with....:O)

Do you still have the S1 DVD's? If so, have you listened to the commentaries? Those were actually pretty good. Especially The Rising and the ones with Torri and Rachel.

**drewandian** · 02 October 2009, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

I noticed that. It's a wonder John didn't get whiplash. And you can just see his little brain working thinking about what might happen. The lip licking was also at an all time high.

Spoiler:

Do you still have the S1 DVD's? If so, have you listened to the commentaries? Those were actually pretty good. Especially The Rising and the ones with Torri and Rachel.

I do...they don't need to be returned til next week...and I've listened to some of them...but I'm not sure I've listened to the ones for The Rising and I've only heard one of the commentaries with Rachel.... *scampers off to change DVDs*

**Probie** · 02 October 2009, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

Those of you who liked BSG should also like SGU according to my local paper. The review I just read pretty much trashes it as being repetitive and unoriginal. But I get the feeling the critic is not exactly a fan of SciFi. It did make me LOL though in places.

And please don't hate me but I never could get into BSG. The darkness repelled me every time. So I guess all us Sparkies don't march in lockstep. LOL

What is it repetitive and unoriginal...SGU or BSG? What I like in BSG is the dialogues and the way the characters are developed. The teasers that I saw for SGU make me laugh for the moment. BSG is more than just broken lights.lol If they want to do something like BSG, they have to work really hard on their characters. And I don't trust the writers of Stargate when we talk about "character development". I will give a chance to SGU (because of Carl Binder) but I'm not excited by teasers for the moment.
I can understand why you don't like BSG. I had some problems at the beginning with the darkness and the story but now I love this show.

Originally posted by drewandian View Post

Baseball talk: My Pirates have been REALLY rough this year ('course we kept trading one really good player to bring up three minor leaguers....*shakes head*

) But they're FINALLY starting to win...we'll get 'em next year!

TLG: I read about this episode so that I could understand Nuna's story a little better and all I can say is OMG! The library HAS to get those DVDs to me ASAP!!!!! I wanna see this ep!!!!!!

(I'm not a very patient person to begin with....:O)

I hope you will have your dvds soon.

**Probie** · 02 October 2009, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

I noticed that. It's a wonder John didn't get whiplash. And you can just see his little brain working thinking about what might happen. The lip licking was also at an all time high.

Spoiler:

Do you still have the S1 DVD's? If so, have you listened to the commentaries? Those were actually pretty good. Especially The Rising and the ones with Torri and Rachel.

There is a connection between his tongue and Elizabeth.LOL
For the comentaries: Why are you so cruel? I will never listen the commentary with Torri and Rachel. Hate France.
Can someone tells me if in the US dvds, the commentaries have french subtitle please?

**Eri13** · 02 October 2009, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

I noticed that. It's a wonder John didn't get whiplash. And you can just see his little brain working thinking about what might happen. The lip licking was also at an all time high.

Spoiler:

I notice that, too, and felt a little dirty mentioning it. That's one of those things John does at opportune moments, and yet it's really hard to describe it in writing--it just never sounds good.

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

Do you still have the S1 DVD's? If so, have you listened to the commentaries? Those were actually pretty good. Especially The Rising and the ones with Torri and Rachel.

TLG has Torri on it, too. It's a lot drier than Torri and Rachel's Sanctuary one, but still entertaining.

**Probie** · 02 October 2009, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

I notice that, too, and felt a little dirty mentioning it. That's one of those things John does at opportune moments, and yet it's really hard to describe it in writing--it just never sounds good.

TLG has Torri on it, too. It's a lot drier than Torri and Rachel's Sanctuary one, but still entertaining.

**Eri13** · 02 October 2009, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Probie View Post

SORRY! I'll check on French subtitling for commentaries tonight!

It's their fault for not including the Torri/Rachel commentary on the DVDs outside of Region 1. I don't know why they did that...

**Probie** · 02 October 2009, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

SORRY! I'll check on French subtitling for commentaries tonight!

It's their fault for not including the Torri/Rachel commentary on the DVDs outside of Region 1. I don't know why they did that...

Oh thank you!
Yes they are stupid. We have all the commentaries except this one and all of them are in english. Joe has a strange accent, Martin talks about "technical", David is too fast,....So it's really complicated to understand them.lol

**pkprd869** · 02 October 2009, 07:57 AM

Oh Mandy, a donde esta me amiga? I have a link for you:Bribe part II

Great fics and vids y'all. Drew I'm going to put this in a spoiler so I won't ruin TLG for you.

Spoiler:

I liked BSG. It was a good drama. And SK Dirk Benedict who originated the role of Starbuck is the one who wrote the editorial about Starbuck being a girl. Of course Dirk Benedict played "Face", the biggest womanizer in TV history on "The A-Team", the most stereotypical guys show ever. And "The A-Team" is one of my favorite shows. I didn't like Starbuck, and it had nothing to do with the character being female. I thought the character was just an annoying loon.

I'll give SGU a chance. I don't want it to be a BSG type show. I think folks need to remember Stargate and BSG are two very different shows in terms of focus. Stargate started out as action and humor. This what got me into the show. It wasn't serious; it was a fun diversion. Character development in the early days of SG-1 (Think S1-S5, maybe S6) was good because they only did little bits here and there, and it was well written into the action and adventure. By S9 of SG-1 and S3 of SGA, the focus kind of went all over the place, like TPTB didn't know what to do. BSG was a borderline soap opera. I liked it, but sometimes I thought it was "The OC in space." The action was used to supplement the drama. The show stayed focused on characters and tension.

**Probie** · 02 October 2009, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by pkprd869 View Post

Oh Mandy, a donde esta me amiga? I have a link for you:Bribe part II

Great fics and vids y'all. Drew I'm going to put this in a spoiler so I won't ruin TLG for you.

Spoiler:

I liked BSG. It was a good drama. And SK Dirk Benedict who originated the role of Starbuck is the one who wrote the editorial about Starbuck being a girl. Of course Dirk Benedict played "Face", the biggest womanizer in TV history on "The A-Team", the most stereotypical guys show ever. And "The A-Team" is one of my favorite shows. I didn't like Starbuck, and it had nothing to do with the character being female. I thought the character was just an annoying loon.

I'll give SGU a chance. I don't want it to be a BSG type show. I think folks need to remember Stargate and BSG are two very different shows in terms of focus. Stargate started out as action and humor. This what got me into the show. It wasn't serious; it was a fun diversion. Character development in the early days of SG-1 (Think S1-S5, maybe S6) was good because they only did little bits here and there, and it was well written into the action and adventure. By S9 of SG-1 and S3 of SGA, the focus kind of went all over the place, like TPTB didn't know what to do. BSG was a borderline soap opera. I liked it, but sometimes I thought it was "The OC in space." The action was used to supplement the drama. The show stayed focused on characters and tension.

"The OC in space"? My homie, you just break my little heart.
I totally agree with you on SGU. I hope they will not attempt to copy BSG. Stargates is, like you said, "Action and humor".
Since I live in France, I would see SGU in 3 years. If French Tv wants this show.... So it's not really important.
But seriously, "OC in space"?LOL

**Scary Kitty** · 02 October 2009, 09:09 AM

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Pretty Friday!

Speaking of pretty... SR, that John tongue!porn pic spam hit the spot!

Originally posted by Probie View Post

An anecdote: The french voice of Kara is the same voice of Elizabeth.

Ooooh! That's so cool!

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

Those of you who liked BSG should also like SGU according to my local paper. The review I just read pretty much trashes it as being repetitive and unoriginal. But I get the feeling the critic is not exactly a fan of SciFi. It did make me LOL though in places.

And please don't hate me but I never could get into BSG. The darkness repelled me every time. So I guess all us Sparkies don't march in lockstep. LOL

*cracks up* Gee, I'll have to see if my local paper has any reviews of SGU, LOL!

Originally posted by ddc View Post

Even if she's not a fan Elizabeth probably knows the basics (I've always felt her comment when they were all watching John's old football tape was her intentionally playing dumb so she wouldn't get dragged into sports talk) and has teams she'd prefer to win. I'm not much of a sports fan but I know the teams and who's in the playoffs/series and am happy when the Mets and Giants win.

For Baseball Elizabeth's from Washington and John's family home seems to be in Maryland so they'd probably both favor the Baltimore Orioles; DC didn't have a baseball team after the Senators left (in the early 60's?) until the Nationals (AKA Montreal Expos) moved there a few years ago. As for football - Washington Redskins. For John maybe the newer Ravens. And if he's anything like my relatives from Maryland anyone but the Indianapolis Colts; they're still angry at them leaving Baltimore with no notice.

Well, we know that one of John's family's homes is in Maryland; he implied that there were others in Outcast; so who knows? Maybe he likes pkprd869's beloved White Sox.

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

The Baltimore story is one of the best in sports history, though. Moving trucks at midnight.

I won't participate in baseball talk, I'm in mourning. The Braves are out of the playoff race.

*huggles*

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

I did FINALLY re-watch Grace Under Pressure and had to rewind the 'chocolate and peanut butter' scene about 3 times. Good ol' Sparky.

I also watched the first few minutes, pre-John possession of The Long Goodbye. There's a little moment I caught I'd not noticed before. When Elizabeth walks in with Caldwell, John is checking out something on the pod, and Carson casually says "Hello, Doctor Weir."

Watch how fast John whips around when he hears her name. Then, he notices Caldwell with her, and he keeps staring. The shot is a wide-angle and far away, so you really can't tell what's going on on his face, but it's kinda funny because he just keeps looking at them.

http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/2...oodbye085.html
http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/2...oodbye086.html

Torri looked like she had fun playing Phoebus, and she did it really well. The difference between her and when she 'pretends' Elizabeth is really well done. It just reminded me again how talented some of the actors really were.

I also found it amusing that NO ONE ELSE has a problem with John taking on the role of Thalen. Neither Carson, Caldwell, Rodney--none of them object, save Caldwell's one little remark about John handing over his pistol so 'an alien entity wouldn't be armed'. Not even when John mentions the fact that they were married. All the other guys are enthused to get to try this. What the heck?

*cracks up again* John is so wrapped around Lizzie's little finger! And yeah, what is up with everyone not having a problem with John hosting Thalen? Not even Caldwell really cares... and let's not forget that little bit at the end where he's teasing John and Elizabeth about "that kiss." Caldwell was so loving it!

**Southern Red** · 02 October 2009, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by drewandian View Post

I do...they don't need to be returned til next week...and I've listened to some of them...but I'm not sure I've listened to the ones for The Rising and I've only heard one of the commentaries with Rachel.... *scampers off to change DVDs*

Joe does The Rising and has lots of intelligent things to say. He also does one of the Sieges but I don't think it's the one listed. And you get introduced to his dirty laugh. Heh.

Originally posted by Probie View Post

What is it repetitive and unoriginal...SGU or BSG? What I like in BSG is the dialogues and the way the characters are developed. The teasers that I saw for SGU make me laugh for the moment. BSG is more than just broken lights.lol If they want to do something like BSG, they have to work really hard on their characters. And I don't trust the writers of Stargate when we talk about "character development". I will give a chance to SGU (because of Carl Binder) but I'm not excited by teasers for the moment.
I can understand why you don't like BSG. I had some problems at the beginning with the darkness and the story but now I love this show.

I hope you will have your dvds soon.

The critic seemed to be criticizing SGU as being unoriginal and repetitive though I don't think he knows much about SciFi. He said the ship reminded him of Alien (well duh) and he points out the stereotypes like the dorky scientist. I don't know if he realizes there are no original characters/stories left in SciFi. His tone was a bit snobby and he implied if you liked the other Stargates you'll like this one. So I wouldn't pay much attention to what he said. The only critics who count are the SciFi critics IMHO. Oh, and the viewers.

Originally posted by Probie View Post

There is a connection between his tongue and Elizabeth.LOL
For the comentaries: Why are you so cruel? I will never listen the commentary with Torri and Rachel. Hate France.
Can someone tells me if in the US dvds, the commentaries have french subtitle please?

My US DVD's for S1 have subtitles for the episodes but not the commentaries. Sadly.

Originally posted by Probie View Post

Oh thank you!
Yes they are stupid. We have all the commentaries except this one and all of them are in english. Joe has a strange accent, Martin talks about "technical", David is too fast,....So it's really complicated to understand them.lol

I've heard people say before that Joe has an accent. When the show first started I think some posters spent an inordinate amount of time trying to figure it out. I don't know about other Americans but I don't hear any kind of an accent. When he is speaking at cons I hear at times, but rarely, a little bit of the surfer boy laid back California in his inflection. He speaks slowly which is typical of westerners (He's from Reno, Nevada.) but doesn't have a western drawl. He went to boarding school in California and college in Colorado and has spent his adult life living in California so his voice is a mixture of that.

Now, speaking as a Southerner who long ago lost her Southern accent because I live in Northern Virginia, LOL, if you are unfamiliar with American voices you may hear an accent. But I would call Joe's just a generic educated American voice.

**Probie** · 02 October 2009, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Scary Kitty View Post

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Pretty Friday!

Speaking of pretty... SR, that John tongue!porn pic spam hit the spot!

Ooooh! That's so cool!

*cracks up* Gee, I'll have to see if my local paper has any reviews of SGU, LOL!

Well, we know that one of John's family's homes is in Maryland; he implied that there were others in Outcast; so who knows? Maybe he likes pkprd869's beloved White Sox.

*huggles*

*cracks up again* John is so wrapped around Lizzie's little finger! And yeah, what is up with everyone not having a problem with John hosting Thalen? Not even Caldwell really cares... and let's not forget that little bit at the end where he's teasing John and Elizabeth about "that kiss." Caldwell was so loving it!

It's a little strange because Kara is a little rude.lol

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

Joe does The Rising and has lots of intelligent things to say. He also does one of the Sieges but I don't think it's the one listed. And you get introduced to his dirty laugh. Heh.

The critic seemed to be criticizing SGU as being unoriginal and repetitive though I don't think he knows much about SciFi. He said the ship reminded him of Alien (well duh) and he points out the stereotypes like the dorky scientist. I don't know if he realizes there are no original characters/stories left in SciFi. His tone was a bit snobby and he implied if you liked the other Stargates you'll like this one. So I wouldn't pay much attention to what he said. The only critics who count are the SciFi critics IMHO. Oh, and the viewers.

My US DVD's for S1 have subtitles for the episodes but not the commentaries. Sadly.

I've heard people say before that Joe has an accent. When the show first started I think some posters spent an inordinate amount of time trying to figure it out. I don't know about other Americans but I don't hear any kind of an accent. When he is speaking at cons I hear at times, but rarely, a little bit of the surfer boy laid back California in his inflection. He speaks slowly which is typical of westerners (He's from Reno, Nevada.) but doesn't have a western drawl. He went to boarding school in California and college in Colorado and has spent his adult life living in California so his voice is a mixture of that.

Now, speaking as a Southerner who long ago lost her Southern accent because I live in Northern Virginia, LOL, if you are unfamiliar with American voices you may hear an accent. But I would call Joe's just a generic educated American voice.

Ok he has no accent but like you said I'm not familiar with American voices. It's a little complicated to understand him (and Jason too). The french expression is "Il parle dans sa barbe" (english dictionary: "to mutter into one's beard"lol). Rachel and Torri are easy to understand. David is a little complicated but I can understand. When is Joe or Jason, it's "What? What They said?" lol

And for the commentary, I think I'm gonna cry. It will still a mistery for me. I hope it's not really interesting what Torri and Rachel said.

Announcement

Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment