Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[KrisRussel]

WOW!!! TV is on, but I'm not really watching it... A special of 'Rascall Flats' is on and I'm really barely paying attention until I heard these lyrics and I just stared at the TV... If this song doesn't fit Sparky perfectly, I don't know what song does...
Just hope no one suggested this for our Sparky songlist already... but this song truly overwhelmed me...

Rascall Flats: What hurts the most
Youtube
Lyrics:

Spoiler:

I can take the rain on the roof of this empty house
That don't bother me
I can take a few tears now and then and just let them out
I'm not afraid to cry every once in a while
Even though going on with you gone still upsets me
There are days every now and again I pretend I'm ok
But that's not what gets me

What hurts the most
Was being so close
And having so much to say
And watching you walk away
And never knowing
What could have been
And not seeing that loving you
Is what I was tryin' to do

It's hard to deal with the pain of losing you everywhere I go
But I'm doin' It
It's hard to force that smile when I see our old friends and I'm alone
Still Harder
Getting up, getting dressed, livin' with this regret
But I know if I could do it over
I would trade give away all the words that I saved in my heart
That I left unspoken

What hurts the most
Is being so close
And having so much to say
And watching you walk away
And never knowing
What could have been
And not seeing that loving you
Is what I was trying to do

Not seeing that loving you
That's what I was trying to do

[Regularamanda]

WOW!!! TV is on, but I'm not really watching it... A special of 'Rascall Flats' is on and I'm really barely paying attention until I heard these lyrics and I just stared at the TV... If this song doesn't fit Sparky perfectly, I don't know what song does...
Just hope no one suggested this for our Sparky songlist already... but this song truly overwhelmed me...

Rascall Flats: What hurts the most
Youtube
Lyrics:

Spoiler:

I can take the rain on the roof of this empty house
That don't bother me
I can take a few tears now and then and just let them out
I'm not afraid to cry every once in a while
Even though going on with you gone still upsets me
There are days every now and again I pretend I'm ok
But that's not what gets me

What hurts the most
Was being so close
And having so much to say
And watching you walk away
And never knowing
What could have been
And not seeing that loving you
Is what I was tryin' to do

It's hard to deal with the pain of losing you everywhere I go
But I'm doin' It
It's hard to force that smile when I see our old friends and I'm alone
Still Harder
Getting up, getting dressed, livin' with this regret
But I know if I could do it over
I would trade give away all the words that I saved in my heart
That I left unspoken

What hurts the most
Is being so close
And having so much to say
And watching you walk away
And never knowing
What could have been
And not seeing that loving you
Is what I was trying to do

Not seeing that loving you
That's what I was trying to do

I love that song and I love Rascal Flatts

There's two Sparky vids to it- Here and Here, the first song is rascal flatts and the second is some woman singing it

[KrisRussel]

I love that song and I love Rascal Flatts

There's two Sparky vids to it- Here and Here, the first song is rascal flatts and the second is some woman singing it

Thanks for those
I like the Rascall Flats version better to be honest...
I never payed much attention to them before... but I think I'm gonna check out a couple of their cd's now

[Regularamanda]

Thanks for those
I like the Rascall Flats version better to be honest...
I never payed much attention to them before... but I think I'm gonna check out a couple of their cd's now

You're welcome and I like Rascal Flatts version better too.

Definitally check out there songs, there great Even my Dad who hates country with a passion, says that there music is good, and they have a lot of love lost songs which so fit sparky.

[Erin87]

WOW!!! TV is on, but I'm not really watching it... A special of 'Rascall Flats' is on and I'm really barely paying attention until I heard these lyrics and I just stared at the TV... If this song doesn't fit Sparky perfectly, I don't know what song does...
Just hope no one suggested this for our Sparky songlist already... but this song truly overwhelmed me...

Rascall Flats: What hurts the most
Youtube
Lyrics:

Spoiler:

I can take the rain on the roof of this empty house
That don't bother me
I can take a few tears now and then and just let them out
I'm not afraid to cry every once in a while
Even though going on with you gone still upsets me
There are days every now and again I pretend I'm ok
But that's not what gets me

What hurts the most
Was being so close
And having so much to say
And watching you walk away
And never knowing
What could have been
And not seeing that loving you
Is what I was tryin' to do

It's hard to deal with the pain of losing you everywhere I go
But I'm doin' It
It's hard to force that smile when I see our old friends and I'm alone
Still Harder
Getting up, getting dressed, livin' with this regret
But I know if I could do it over
I would trade give away all the words that I saved in my heart
That I left unspoken

What hurts the most
Is being so close
And having so much to say
And watching you walk away
And never knowing
What could have been
And not seeing that loving you
Is what I was trying to do

Not seeing that loving you
That's what I was trying to do

Yeah, I suggested it for the list already. Because that is such a perfect song that perfectly displays all the wonderful Sparky angst, and the regret at not taking advantage of what they had while there was still an opportunity.

[Southern Red]

Southern Red: Thanks for your notes about the comments. I would like to know what they say on "The Queen". It's the only episode I like in this season.

I just watched "First Strike" (Yes I can't wait the post-a-thon sorry) and I have a confession to make. Sorry for that but I think I'm a little McKay/Weir (friend) shipper.lol I found Rodney very sweet with Elizabeth. Not in a romantic way of course.
"McKAY (laughing): Yeah, I don't think that's your call.(He looks at Elizabeth as John and Ellis exchange a glance.)"
"McKAY (smiling): Aye, aye, Captain."

There are good Sparky scenes in it. The last day that John is with Elizabeth, he disappointed her and they are a tension between them. It would be not easy for John to think about it after that Elizabeth was injured and gone.
I have a question. I thought about it when I saw the scene between Teyla and Elizabeth. If Elizabeth was still the leader after the attack of the Replicators, do you think she will "step down" like she said? I don't know if I'm clear. Do you think she would leave Atlantis behind her and go back to Earth because she was tired to be against the military? My sentence is not english sorry.lol
And last question: Does anyone knows a story (based on "first strike") where Elizabeth resigns and John does everything to keep her because he feels guilty?

Ok time to go to bed because I can't think in French, write in English....Bye

Will do. When I get to The Queen, I'll pay close attention just for you.

You're welcome and I like Rascal Flatts version better too.

Definitally check out there songs, there great Even my Dad who hates country with a passion, says that there music is good, and they have a lot of love lost songs which so fit sparky.

Love Rascal Flatts. They are less "country" than a lot of artists.

[Regularamanda]

Will do. When I get to The Queen, I'll pay close attention just for you.



Love Rascal Flatts. They are less "country" than a lot of artists.

Yes they are I love their voices and they make some great love songs.

*gulp* okay guys I took your advice and bought S4...watching Adrift right now...I'm pretty sure I'm going to start crying later So be prepared!

[Southern Red]

Yes they are I love their voices and they make some great love songs.

*gulp* okay guys I took your advice and bought S4...watching Adrift right now...I'm pretty sure I'm going to start crying later So be prepared!

*passes out tissues* You probably will cry more in Lifeline.

[Regularamanda]

*passes out tissues* You probably will cry more in Lifeline.

*gratefully accepts tissues* I've seen it before but...it's still sad and I've only seen it once *sniff*

*more sniffles* This gets me every time


And you know Kelller say's "I'm sorry" to him during that scene, why would she say that unless Elizabeth meant a lot to him

Edit- and then the whole "She'll be a replicator for the rest of her life" and Keller says "Yeah Sheppard wouldn't go for that"...I love how they only say he won't go for it, no one else is mentioned.

[Irish Eyes]

Okay, I think I sent the "Africa" link to everyone who wanted it, but let me know if I missed someone.

Scripts are written to be timed out perfectly--there's strict standards for font size, page margins, etc to make each page roughly 1 minute of air time. So a script that's 9 1/2 minutes too long is one that has around 10 extra pages roughly.

If it was 9 1/2 minutes long, it is possible the writing was still being edited. I'd like to hope not, though, because I can imagine Robert Davi saying the line and Joe F. reacting to it.

Thanks for the info Eri. I have no idea how this all works so I find it quite interesting.

I suffer so you don't have to. Commentary for Inquisition. I'm doing any first that might mention Elizabeth

Spoiler:

Sadly, no mention of her in this one. Commentary by Brenton Spencer, director and Tobias Slezak actor who played the envoy. I guess they're having trouble getting people to do these. LOL

Lots of compliments of JF. They said he brings "wit and charm" to the part of Sheppard and praised his acting on several occasions. The last scene was an homage to Boston Legal. The cigars were Cubans, legal in Canada but the "scotch" was Lipton's tea. LOL Otherwise lots of talk about lighting and the other actors.

*bows to the awesomeness that is Southern Red*

Wouldn't it be cool if some day the actors did their own commentaries and put them out there in the MP3 format to play along with the dvd? That is such a pipe dream, but I would pay for it! LOL

Oh, waw, you're so right... I never really thought about that fact, but yeah, John treated Elizabeth unfair in their last moments together before she got blasted away. Knowing John it must be eating him alive...
*Sees plotbunny hopping by* Crap! *kicks plotbunny*

Awww, poor bunny. *hugs it*

*STOMPS ON IT*

*bunny staggers away*

Nope, you just can't kill a Sparky plotbunny. Kind of like Sparky.

[Regularamanda]

Okay, I think I sent the "Africa" link to everyone who wanted it, but let me know if I missed someone.



Thanks for the info Eri. I have no idea how this all works so I find it quite interesting.



*bows to the awesomeness that is Southern Red*

Wouldn't it be cool if some day the actors did their own commentaries and put them out there in the MP3 format to play along with the dvd? That is such a pipe dream, but I would pay for it! LOL



Awww, poor bunny. *hugs it*

*STOMPS ON IT*

*bunny staggers away*

Nope, you just can't kill a Sparky plotbunny. Kind of like Sparky.

Aww why are we harming the ploy bunnies? The poor little thing, so along and unloved, all it's looking for is a nice warm place to live... *picks plot bunny up and hugs the poor thing* Now if only I actually wrote Sparky (I wrote that one ) I'd give it a nice home to live in Sadly someone else should probably take it in and raise it...I ask you how do you resist this?


It's my bunny nephew

[KrisRussel]

*gulp* okay guys I took your advice and bought S4...watching Adrift right now...I'm pretty sure I'm going to start crying later So be prepared!

*huggles* We're here for you!

*gratefully accepts tissues* I've seen it before but...it's still sad and I've only seen it once *sniff*

*more sniffles* This gets me every time
http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...ir/hispain.jpg

And you know Kelller say's "I'm sorry" to him during that scene, why would she say that unless Elizabeth meant a lot to him

Edit- and then the whole "She'll be a replicator for the rest of her life" and Keller says "Yeah Sheppard wouldn't go for that"...I love how they only say he won't go for it, no one else is mentioned.

I know!! They really tread him like he's Liz's husband, don't they?
Of course they all know how John and Liz feel about each other and what they mean to each other, so yeah, of course they talk like they are married.
And of course he also acts like the very worried husband...

Wouldn't it be cool if some day the actors did their own commentaries and put them out there in the MP3 format to play along with the dvd? That is such a pipe dream, but I would pay for it! LOL

Colin Ferguson did that for Eureka and it's hilarious!! He's just sitting at home with a digital recorder, watching the eps, saying what he thinks about it... These commentaries were so loved by the fans that after saying they would only be downloadable online, they actually appeared on the DVD's... They're my fav part to be honest
More shows should do something like that... It's so great

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

u know what i dont understand is what happened between torri higginson and the writers that she didnt want to come back?

[Regularamanda]

*huggles* We're here for you!



I know!! They really tread him like he's Liz's husband, don't they?
Of course they all know how John and Liz feel about each other and what they mean to each other, so yeah, of course they talk like they are married.
And of course he also acts like the very worried husband...



Colin Ferguson did that for Eureka and it's hilarious!! He's just sitting at home with a digital recorder, watching the eps, saying what he thinks about it... These commentaries were so loved by the fans that after saying they would only be downloadable online, they actually appeared on the DVD's... They're my fav part to be honest
More shows should do something like that... It's so great

Yay! Thanks! I watched Both Adrift and Lifeline....and I cried It's just so sad!! And even Carter says that she's sorry and that Landry sends his condolences...why send it to him? The whole city lost it's leader....but then he lost the woman he loves, and you know I love that Ronon has to force him to leave and then when Mckay asks where Elizabeth is and Ronon doesn't say a word, just shakes his head...it's all so sad...*sniff* How can you watch those episodes and say that there's nothing between them?!

And you're right they really do treat him like the husband, instead of just someone who's her friend. And yup he loves her, you'd act like how Ronon or Mckay acted if she was just your friend...but John's emotion was waaay too intense to be anything other than a man losing the woman he loves. *heartfelt sigh*

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

amanda its Landry not Landary. and i think we need to just accept the fact that they probably got married prior to first strike.