Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[gateraid]

At the cave:

Teyla: Colonel Sheppard, you need to hurry. It took us a little longer to get here than we would have liked, and we do not have much time.

Hmmm. If only the person in charge of this mission had an invisible, undetectable flying machine that could land in that massive space where you're standing. I'm sure something like that could really speed things up, but alas, no such machine exists

[gateraid]

Ronon: We might....
Teyla: ....stay a while
McKay: ....well, if thats, ah, all right?

Sure, why not? You three didn't appear to give two hoots when you thought he was dying, but now that he's okay and there's a chance he might remember what's happening, by all means!

[gateraid]

Weir to Caldwell: Believe me Colonel, you don't wanna be

Aside from the odd way "we'll try to manage without you until you get back" was delivered, it's hard to argue against anything Weir has done in this episode. She made the right call every step of the way, even when put under direct threat to do the opposite. She proved that she's learned a thing or two about the military, and that she is so on top of things that she knew the extent of Caldwell's plans within a very short space of time. It's funny that when Sheppard gave Bates an order in Hot Zone, he went against Weir, but by the time this episode rolls around, when she overrules Caldwell right in front of him, they don't even raise an eyebrow.

[gateraid]

I don't understand the tag scene.

[gateraid]

When she says "give it no further thought", wtf does that mean? When he says "out of character", what part specifically is he referring to? Why does she do a sigh of relief when she walks away?

How did those two view the earlier events? Did Teyla see him as being exceptionally aggressive, and the kiss an extension of that, or did she see him as being all hyped up then kissing her on an impulse? Did Sheppard kiss her because he always felt that way about her, or was it a spur of the moment thing? We never find out

[gateraid]

That's how I saw it too. For the life of me, I never could understand the "romantic" aspect of that scene and not just because I didn't like that ship.

I completely buy it as a way to illustrate his change of behaviour. But in the way it appears on the show, I cannot see ship in it. Perhaps on his part, but her reaction screams otherwise. Plus his double take immediately afterwards.

Maybe they did what I did and looked up "somatic cells". Wiki says they are any cells of the body except the sperm and egg cells. I stopped reading right there because I was bored, so they must have also. Even though I probably had a fairly good grade in Biology about a hundred years ago, my brain has all of that particular subject it needs at the present time. But it speaks to their belief that the average viewer is not as smart as they are or as well-educated, so they think they can throw in some intelligent sounding vocab and the episode is good to go with the Science geeks.

I didn't even go that far I'm just a country yokel, and my knowledge of somatic cells is based upon that background.

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Sparky!Family Saturday! College football season isn't quite over yet, but seeing as how none of us have a dog in the fight this week, well then Spark it.



Yeah, when I first read your post, that was what came to mind, so I went with it.

It's sadly accurate

I think I'm just gonna start replacing curse words with the word "Spark" whenever I post here.

It's a good way to beat the filter

LOL @ Gateraid

Heh. I may have gotten a bit carried away

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[Southern Red]

When she says "give it no further thought", wtf does that mean? When he says "out of character", what part specifically is he referring to? Why does she do a sigh of relief when she walks away?

How did those two view the earlier events? Did Teyla see him as being exceptionally aggressive, and the kiss an extension of that, or did she see him as being all hyped up then kissing her on an impulse? Did Sheppard kiss her because he always felt that way about her, or was it a spur of the moment thing? We never find out

That tag scene is an even greater mystery than the smushmouth scene. I always thought from the behavior of the Athosians that they were a very reserved group. They had elaborate rituals surrounding death and acted a bit formal even with family members, substituting the head bump for a hug. So, imagine Teyla's shock and revulsion when a trusted friend acts so aggressively toward her. If she had been harboring any romantic feeling for him, I think that pretty much killed them. I would love to see a fic involving her going back and talking to her friend Kanaan about it. He's shocked also and asks her if she wants him to speak to the Colonel on her behalf. She, of course, explains that the ways of the Earthlings are not the ways of the Athosians and asks him to keep his distance. Kanaan understands that she has conflicted feelings about John and hopes that someday she will see what's right in front of her and will turn to him. Sigh. But I don't have time to write it.

Now, John wants her to understand that jumping women who have shown no romantic interest in him is not something he does on a regular basis. He values her friendship and hopes she doesn't go home and round up a bunch of big burly Athosians to come and kick his scrawny ass. In the end, they are both glad to put the whole thing behind them and never speak of it again. Teyla, in particular is relieved that she doesn't have to explain to John why she reacted like she had just come in contact with one of those ground squid.

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday!

It's a good way to beat the filter

Yep!

Teyla, in particular is relieved that she doesn't have to explain to John why she reacted like she had just come in contact with one of those ground squid.

Hmm. That puts a whole different spin on her eating that one in Missing with such relish, doesn't it?

[Southern Red]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday!



Yep!



Hmm. That puts a whole different spin on her eating that one in Missing with such relish, doesn't it?

*snort* Eating it is one thing, but snuggling up to one is another thing altogether.

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[gateraid]

That tag scene is an even greater mystery than the smushmouth scene. I always thought from the behavior of the Athosians that they were a very reserved group. They had elaborate rituals surrounding death and acted a bit formal even with family members, substituting the head bump for a hug. So, imagine Teyla's shock and revulsion when a trusted friend acts so aggressively toward her. If she had been harboring any romantic feeling for him, I think that pretty much killed them. I would love to see a fic involving her going back and talking to her friend Kanaan about it. He's shocked also and asks her if she wants him to speak to the Colonel on her behalf. She, of course, explains that the ways of the Earthlings are not the ways of the Athosians and asks him to keep his distance. Kanaan understands that she has conflicted feelings about John and hopes that someday she will see what's right in front of her and will turn to him. Sigh. But I don't have time to write it.

Now, John wants her to understand that jumping women who have shown no romantic interest in him is not something he does on a regular basis. He values her friendship and hopes she doesn't go home and round up a bunch of big burly Athosians to come and kick his scrawny ass. In the end, they are both glad to put the whole thing behind them and never speak of it again. Teyla, in particular is relieved that she doesn't have to explain to John why she reacted like she had just come in contact with one of those ground squid.

All of that sounds very reasonable. What a pity we didn't get to see that

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday!



Yep!



Hmm. That puts a whole different spin on her eating that one in Missing with such relish, doesn't it?

*snort* Eating it is one thing, but snuggling up to one is another thing altogether.

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Canon Monday!

*snort* Eating it is one thing, but snuggling up to one is another thing altogether.

Eww, cold and slimy. Hope she brought one of those insulated blankets.

All of that sounds very reasonable. What a pity we didn't get to see that

That would require TPTW actually having to develop *gasp* character background. Perish the thought!

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