Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Sparky She-Demon]

Eh. I don't really have much of an opinion on Teyla. I've been a Sparky shipper from the getgo. I know that PotC line quite well!

[Falcon Horus]

Eh. I don't really have much of an opinion on Teyla. I've been a Sparky shipper from the getgo. I know that PotC line quite well!

Too bad... Teyla's my second favorite character so I do pay attention to her little time. Or paid since the show's off the air obviously. And of course, I fervently ship Kate and Teyla.... also great chemistry between both characters, and actresses (who are good friends in real life).

Elizabeth's third in line for the record.

Or as I like to call them:





Oh yeah... and by the way... my favorite het-ship is John/Kate.

Sparky's canon though and so is Kate/Teyla.

[Sparky She-Demon]

Fair enough. What do you think of the Laura Cadman character?

[Falcon Horus]

Fair enough. What do you think of the Laura Cadman character?

Anyone who can talk McKay down rules... she's awesome. And Laura/Carson was the cutest couple ever... *sigh*

[Sparky She-Demon]

Anyone who can talk McKay down rules... she's awesome. And Laura/Carson was the cutest couple ever... *sigh*

Really? They were a cute couple. Shame it was mostly an offscreen relationship!!! ARGH!

[Pearl of Atlantis76]

I like that he calls her Liz. Don't get me wrong, I don't like that it's coming from that waste of airtime, but it surprised me that nobody had called her that, or tried to, by that point in the show.

Well maybe they didn't because after all she is the boss.

And since this topic has come up, I have a few thoughts. I don't know how I missed this before, but this is huge. Everyone else was just over the moon gaga over Lucius, but Elizabeth still managed to not turn against John. In the scene when she and Lucius and Radek were talking about going to the planet with the herb and John walked up all mad, she didn't snap at him or call him down but tried to reason with him. She even smiled and called him by his first name even after he had gone all formal on her and angrily called her "Dr. Weir" while drumming his fingers on the console. Then when Lucius spoke out against him she looked puzzled and completely ignored Lucius for a few seconds while watching John and trying to explain to Lucius that he was a good man. So, what does this tell us? Why only that no amount of brainwashing could change her mind about John, and just like when she was under the control of the nanites, he was the only unchanging constant in her world.

I always find something new everytime i rewatch an episode, it might be a small detail, but i always find a new one each time.

I love that part when he is drumming his fingers on the console!!!

No matter what might happen to her, her mind about John will always be the same, he will always be her unchanging constant no matter in what state of mind she might be, or no matter in which environment / place she might be!

After all it seems that Irresistible wasn't that bad of an episode.

Present! Unfinished!fic! Continuation of the last piece I posted. Takes place roughly ... during Season 7. (This is the fic that a while back I called "fanfic for SGA-R")

Appropriate smilie for story, and for today:

Spoiler:

Elizabeth paced nervously, arms crossed, in the small office that locked from the outside. She had tried sitting in one of the two chairs facing the doctor's desk, but after the first fifteen minutes the tension found its way to her legs and forced her up.

That had been twenty-five minutes ago.

She got the distinct impression that they weren't all that willing to proclaim her healthy and send her on her way. And she didn't blame them; if she had been in their shoes, she would have been hesitant to keep and try to help a person whose body had been teeming with nanites.

But the roles had been reversed and she was the one fighting for her life. Elizabeth had a new understanding, as well as the reluctant knowledge that she couldn't go back to the way things were.

She had known that fact since the moment she awoke on that planet in the Pegasus Galaxy and found Evan Lorne's astonished yet comforting eyes on her - as well as the business end of a few P-90s.

Her thoughts began to drift to six months back. The hateful conversation that followed in quarantine, when John saw her again, it had come from the logical, responsible side of her soul that smothered the feelings she could scarcely give voice to. She winced at the memory of how easily the smile slipped off his face when she replied in a low voice that she wished John had never known she was still alive. He had been through his own share of hell, she got the feeling. He was hardened. Optimism was nearly impossible to find in his hazel eyes - at least, it was during the two seconds after that cruel statement when she let herself meet his gaze.

The next meeting had been slightly more civil.

She didn't even notice the red light from the security camera in the corner shut off before the door slid open and admitted John. He took a glance at it, then turned back and crossed his arms. A dark glare crossed his face, and Elizabeth felt like a criminal, sitting on one side of the interrogation table before the detective started the questioning.

Except there was no questioning. There were no words.

Instead, he took a seat on the floor against the wall and pulled a handheld device out of his pocket. It reminded her of the old GameBoy that he used to have, but it had a wider screen, which John was now staring intently at.

She frowned. She waited a moment before asking the question to see if he would say something, but he never did.

"John?"

He never responded. His fingers began tapping away at the buttons, and he gently bit his lip in concentration.

She raised an eyebrow. Was this a new form of torture or something?

So she sat back on the bed and stared at the wall across the room.

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"Why?"

His sudden question jolted her out of her stare and she looked over at him. He still sat against the wall, playing his game, but his shoulders weren't as stiff as they had been when he walked in.

"What?"

"Why did you wish I'd never found out you were still alive?"

Elizabeth sighed and threw her feet over the side of the flimsy bed. "You know why, John."

John sighed slowly. "Because you know me."

"And as long as there was a chance, even a remote possibility, that I was still alive, you wouldn't give up on me." It was the first time that she had said it aloud, but not silently. She had said it to herself so often that it felt like it was said verbally, but as the words left her mouth for the first time, she felt timid, shy even.

John nodded. "So you took it upon yourself to make me give up."

"John, when you met the group of Replicators, when ... 'I' told you that I was dead, I was the one who told Keller to do it. She went along with it, out of respect for me." She stood from the bed, but didn't make any movement towards him. "Because the truth was, as hard as Oberoth fought to completely assimilate me, there was still something I had that none of them could ever manufacture."

Finally, there was movement from him. He raised his head to look at her. With raised eyebrows in a long absent humorous fashion, he asked, "The eyebrow of doom?"

She tilted her head in a chiding manner, trying her best not to laugh, but ultimately failed.

For the first time in a long time, Elizabeth Weir laughed.

She raised an eyebrow in silent inquiry if she could come closer, and John replied with a smile.

Her back pressed against the wall, then she slid down and took a position similar to his. She drew her knees up to her chin and wrapped her slender arms around her legs.

That's it for now, kids! I'll be back when I have more!!!

My gosh, you are amazing! I love this one too, oh my gosh! Somehow in my head

Spoiler:

i picture that it will be Major Lorne that someday will find Elizabeth, and i can imagine him reporting that to John too. I absolutely loved "the eyebrow of doom", only John would come up with something like that! And of course he will always be the one that will make Elizabeth laugh, no matter if she wants it or not.

Well done!

By the way, SGA-R managers, what do you think of this writer, you should invite her to join your team!

Was there ever *any* doubt about the chemistry!

No, there wasn't!! They will always have it, no matter what!!!

I didn’t think about that either but now that you mention it I really agree, the two of them are a constant presence in each other lives, John in Elizabeth for the reasons you mentioned but Elizabeth is also one in his life, one example is in ‘The Hive’ when he arrives back to Atlantis at the end and how his face just light up when he sees her run down the stairs, it’s as if when he sees her he knows that he’s home. I also believe that in ‘Home’ when he said “Good, it wouldn’t be the same without you” he really meant it. I was also always fascinated by the she always knew when something wasn’t right with him and the way she could get him to open up by just looking into his eyes, for example I’m talking about everything that had to do with Sumner’s death like at the end of ‘Rising’ when he was pretty devastated and she knew exactly what to say (about how they had made new friends) and do (give him his own team) to give him back his confidence and show that she trusted him, it’s also obvious in "Letters from Pegasus" in the conference room when she says that maybe he wanted to do the video to Sumner’s family because she knew that he needed it.

Yes, to John, Elizabeth was always "home". And Elizabeth can read him like a book, there was never any doubt about it.

[Falcon Horus]

Cutest couple as in cutest canon established couple... although McKay/Katie was also very nice. And Teyla/Kanaan was a beautiful union to watch. On the other hand, Jennifer/Rodney was rather painful (my personal opinion), however I wrote them in my Doppelganger fix-it fic and I found they were far better tolerable there than on screen.

Beyond that... Simon/Elizabeth was fleeting. The dude from Sunday never stood a chance. Amelia/Ronon - she can kickbox, a woman to Ronon's heart. John probably teases him about it.

Radek has a secret crush on Elizabeth - everybody knows that...

[Sparky She-Demon]

Hey, Pearl. How's it going?

[Pearl of Atlantis76]

For me personally, yes the chemistry between Joe and Torri is very good. They play well off each other, and it shines through in their characters. But they all had chemistry together with one another, on different levels of interaction.

As far as Sparky chemistry goes... I accept Sparky to be canon.
There's an undeniable something hanging between Weir and Sheppard which is there from the start. However, the sexual tension displayed in the first episode between John and Teyla also doesn't go unnoticed by yours truly. But as Jack Sparrow tells Will Turner in PotC I -> "You know that moment." - "That was it."

So, it all depends on who you're asking... ...or where you're asking it. The answer in this thread will definitely lean towards no doubt, somewhere else however that might not be the case.

On a sidenote - the chemistry between John and Kate in Michael is sizzling hot...

Why do you always have to be so logical?

[Falcon Horus]

Why do you always have to be so logical?

I'm Heightmeyer's Lemming, remember...

[Sparky She-Demon]

Cutest couple as in cutest canon established couple... although McKay/Katie was also very nice. And Teyla/Kanaan was a beautiful union to watch. On the other hand, Jennifer/Rodney was rather painful (my personal opinion), however I wrote them in my Doppelganger fix-it fic and I found they were far better tolerable there than on screen.

Beyond that... Simon/Elizabeth was fleeting. The dude from Sunday never stood a chance. Amelia/Ronon - she can kickbox, a woman to Ronon's heart. John probably teases him about it.

Radek has a secret crush on Elizabeth - everybody knows that...

You can't fault Zelenka for taste!

[Pearl of Atlantis76]

Anyone who can talk McKay down rules... she's awesome. And Laura/Carson was the cutest couple ever... *sigh*

Couldn't agree more! She is perfect for him.

[Sparky She-Demon]

Couldn't agree more! She is perfect for him.

Here, here!!! What do we have to do to get a Cadman gif on here?

[Falcon Horus]

Here, here!!! What do we have to do to get a Cadman gif on here?

You can see if you can snerch one in the Laura Cadman/Jaime R Newman thread... though not sure there are any gifs readily available. Haven't actually come across any there...

Unless you mean a smiley in which case it's down to Zuz's Smiley thread and check that out...

[Pearl of Atlantis76]

Cutest couple as in cutest canon established couple... although McKay/Katie was also very nice. And Teyla/Kanaan was a beautiful union to watch. On the other hand, Jennifer/Rodney was rather painful (my personal opinion), however I wrote them in my Doppelganger fix-it fic and I found they were far better tolerable there than on screen.

Yeah, i agree, i also didn't like to see Rodney / Jennifer, but maybe because i don't like the actress, i am not sure about it. But i don't mind Rodney/Jennifer in fics.

I agree that Rodney looked better with Katie.

Yeah, Teyla and Kanaan were so cute, i wish we could have seen more of them together, Kanaan was always so sweet and understandable.

Hey, Pearl. How's it going?

Good thanks, how are you? Sorry for the intrusion on your conversation with FH but the topic was also interesting to me.