Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[JT-2]

Oh I almost forgot this. Song for Screw the Angst day. "Heavenly Day" by Patty Griffin. I totally picture John and Elizabeth hanging out with the Athosians and dancing to this song. Season 7 perhaps?

Spoiler:

Lyrics:

Oh heavenly day, all the clouds blew away
Got no trouble today with anyone
The smile on your face I live only to see
It's enough for me, baby, it's enough for me
Oh, heavenly day, heavenly day, heavenly day

Tomorrow may rain with sorrow
Here's a little time we can borrow
Forget all our troubles in these moments so few
All we've got right now, the only thing that
All we really have to do
Is have ourselves a heavenly day
Lay here and watch the trees sway
Oh, can't see no other way, no way, no way
Heavenly day, heavenly day, heavenly day

No one on my shoulder bringing me fears
Got no clouds up above me bringing me tears
Got nothing to tell you, I've got nothing much to say
Only I'm glad to be here with you
On this heavenly, heavenly, heavenly, heavenly
Heavenly day, all the trouble's gone away
Oh, for a while anyway, for a while anyway
Heavenly day, heavenly day, heavenly day

[Scary Kitty]

*screams in frustration*

I. Hate. Writer's. Block.

[TheLadyMore]

I should make a Sparky Playlist so I can motivate you all! I got a bunch of Songs perfect for Sparky.

[Scary Kitty]

Songs are usually too much of a distraction for me; it's probably the competing words. I write better listening to instrumental music. Or just silence.

[TheLadyMore]

Oh gosh I couldnt work in silence luckily my roommate likes to sing

[gateraid]

And they do close the iris/shield first. Haven't you ever noticed that?

I noticed that Hammond always ordered the iris closed after the wormhole established. I noticed that the iris (which required no power to be either opened or closed, just power to go from one to the other) was always open. I noticed Weir/Carter/Woolsey did the same thing with the shield - it was raised after the wormhole was established. It'd be easy enough to programme the shield or iris to close as soon as the gate powered up, but they waited. The time that springs to mind when they didn't is during The Lost City when Anubis kills the power at the SGC and they close the iris manually - we don't hear the wormhole established but Anubis sends a nuke through with the iris closed.

I seem to recall that they established there was a minimum space requirement necessary to allow the wormhole to form. That's why burying the gate keeps anyone from connecting to it; with the dirt right on top of it, the minimum space requirement for even a baby kawoosh cannot be met. But the iris/shield is positioned just far away enough for the wormhole to form.

But dirt shouldn't work, else we'd have no trees, no plants, and no grass. The fact that these can grow at all says that dirt isn't compact enough for this to happen - which means it's a whoopsie on the part of the show. Either a wormhole can be established with the iris closed - which means burying the gate won't work - or it can't be. Both can't be true. As with most technical aspects of the show, it most likely changed from the start to the end.

Of course, since it wasn't stated on the show which gate was in use, we don't even need to handwave anyway.

Praise be to Jebus because that was the only reason I mentioned it

0.3 something... and it's not microds.

So, super duper close then?

Hey peeps, I still can't get on LJ so if you haven't gotten a response to a comment, don't blame me. I'm glad I got the lecture from Mr. SR last night on why some people can get on a site when others can't...servers, servers, load balancing, blahblahblah. Now I at least know I'm not being singled out.

It's all in the timing. I couldn't get on earlier, but all sweet now. Generally LJ is one of the slowest sites I frequent though, DDoS or otherwise.

I see our guests have increased once again. I love being the thread on GW that people just can't stay away from. Go us!

We're the Hotel Sparkifornia. You can check out, but you can never leave

Yeah, it made me sad for a bit... I really would have liked to have added it to my SG-stuff, but then again... what the frak would I have done with it. I'd probably taken the opportunity to send it back to Claire with kind regards.

I'm surprised they'd auction something that had actually been worn so close to the skin. I'd be a little creeped out if I were Claire. Nice that you'd give it back though

Oh gosh I couldnt work in silence luckily my roommate likes to sing

Dare I ask what he/she sings?

[DocWhoGater]

Hi all! I'm pretty new to GateWorld and I cant believe that I took this long to find this! And sugar!! I'm getting slow!!

Oh gosh I couldnt work in silence luckily my roommate likes to sing

I agree! I cant work in silence. My Mum thinks I'm strange....

[lizabeth39]

Hi all! I'm pretty new to GateWorld and I cant believe that I took this long to find this! And sugar!! I'm getting slow!!

I to feel the need to de-lurk for a little while and I so need some Sparky sugar.

I agree! I cant work in silence. My Mum thinks I'm strange....

I'm the opposite, the least bit noise distracts me. I find my best time for writing is about 10pm but it is also when my son, having been busy on his own computer and not wanting disturbed, decides now is a good time to play with our dog and has him running around wild, ignoring the glares I give him never mind what the neighbours think, and he is 26years. What I need is for Elizabeth to come sort him out.

[lizabeth39]

I feel the need to delurk for a little while, I'm much in need of some Sparky sugar.

[Southern Red]

Hi all! I'm pretty new to GateWorld and I cant believe that I took this long to find this! And sugar!! I'm getting slow!!




I agree! I cant work in silence. My Mum thinks I'm strange....

I'm glad you found us too. Welcome. Pull up a chair.

I'm afraid I agree with Mum. I can only write if it's perfectly quiet.

I'm the opposite, the least bit noise distracts me. I find my best time for writing is about 10pm but it is also when my son, having been busy on his own computer and not wanting disturbed, decides now is a good time to play with our dog and has him running around wild, ignoring the glares I give him never mind what the neighbours think, and he is 26years. What I need is for Elizabeth to come sort him out.

I'm glad to see another "older" person around here. My son is older than yours. I guess that makes me the thread grandma, but I prefer to think of myself as young at heart.

And I guess we have progress. Today on LJ, I'm getting "internal service error".

[Eri13]

*screams in frustration*

I. Hate. Writer's. Block.

Awww *HUGS*

Spoiler:

Are the Hortons still around on Days? I haven't watched that show in decades (and you don't want me to - every soap I've watched gets cancelled eventually - Another World, Santa Barbara, Guiding Light). I haven't been obsessed with a soap since college though. I used to skip classes if they happened to be in the 3-4pm timeslot.

John should have talked about Elizabeth in that ep, not Woolsey. Although I was surprised they mentioned her at all, and that they were kind about it.

It's definitely a JF feast. I sincerely doubt they meant to put in the Sparky parallelism but I don't care. It's on screen, therefore it's canon.

As long as I don't have to watch Trio or Brainstorm, I'm happy. Oh and the bolded part, is that the technical description? LOL!

Um, not convincing at all! You lost by one dollar? That stinks!!

Yeah it's not working for me either. Hmm, I remember when I used to lurk. Now you can't shut me up.

Yep, totally technical. To FH's "HUH?" observation, I couldn't quite figure out how to describe the connection to the supergate in Stargate terms. So in Eri terms it was a bompty bomp bomp bomp. But it was when they blew up all the ships to amplify the regular wormhole to 'jump' to the Supergate and maintain the open wormhole there.

[ddc]

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But dirt shouldn't work, else we'd have no trees, no plants, and no grass. The fact that these can grow at all says that dirt isn't compact enough for this to happen - which means it's a whoopsie on the part of the show. Either a wormhole can be established with the iris closed - which means burying the gate won't work - or it can't be. Both can't be true. As with most technical aspects of the show, it most likely changed from the start to the end.

It's not the dirt or whatever buries the Gate, it's the fact that it is buried. Remember, the Milky Way Gates have a ring that moves to "engage" symbols when dialing in or out. The weight of the dirt/rocks/coverstone keeps the ring from moving, so there's no "Chevron...Engaged" and therefore no wormhole. In 100 Days Sam did some breaking the laws of physics to get the wormhole to open even with the Gate buried. In episodes where the SGC closes the iris and enemies or bombs go splat, the connection was made, the iris just prevents whatever's coming through from rematerializing.

[lizabeth39]

I'm glad you found us too. Welcome. Pull up a chair.

I'm afraid I agree with Mum. I can only write if it's perfectly quiet.



I'm glad to see another "older" person around here. My son is older than yours. I guess that makes me the thread grandma, but I prefer to think of myself as young at heart.

And I guess we have progress. Today on LJ, I'm getting "internal service error".

I still feel young at heart to, though I never heard of shipping until I came on this thread and found I wasn't alone in seeing the sparky between John and Elizabeth.

I was having problems with LJ to but managing to get on it today.

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Fluffy Thursday!

I noticed that Hammond always ordered the iris closed after the wormhole established. I noticed that the iris (which required no power to be either opened or closed, just power to go from one to the other) was always open. I noticed Weir/Carter/Woolsey did the same thing with the shield - it was raised after the wormhole was established. It'd be easy enough to programme the shield or iris to close as soon as the gate powered up, but they waited. The time that springs to mind when they didn't is during The Lost City when Anubis kills the power at the SGC and they close the iris manually - we don't hear the wormhole established but Anubis sends a nuke through with the iris closed.

Then how come I've seen scenes where the iris/shield is closed before the kawoosh and wormhole is established?

But dirt shouldn't work, else we'd have no trees, no plants, and no grass. The fact that these can grow at all says that dirt isn't compact enough for this to happen - which means it's a whoopsie on the part of the show. Either a wormhole can be established with the iris closed - which means burying the gate won't work - or it can't be. Both can't be true. As with most technical aspects of the show, it most likely changed from the start to the end.

ddc explained it all: http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...1#post12491003

Hi all! I'm pretty new to GateWorld and I cant believe that I took this long to find this! And sugar!! I'm getting slow!!


I agree! I cant work in silence. My Mum thinks I'm strange....

Welcome! We're glad you found us! And yes, we always have sugar.

I'm the opposite, the least bit noise distracts me. I find my best time for writing is about 10pm but it is also when my son, having been busy on his own computer and not wanting disturbed, decides now is a good time to play with our dog and has him running around wild, ignoring the glares I give him never mind what the neighbours think, and he is 26years. What I need is for Elizabeth to come sort him out.

Another late night and silence loving writer! Yay, I'm not the only one!

And I guess we have progress. Today on LJ, I'm getting "internal service error".

Gah! *kicks LJ some more*

Awww *HUGS*

It's so frustrating! And I think the fact that I'm so antsy to get it done ASAP is only fueling the block. Argh.

[Southern Red]

Interview with JF. Go now: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/buzzwor...7/joe-flanigan