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Hello guys!
On recent book discussion - I agree with SK, we're looking at details here, but details which, combined together, create a really weird picture. What's up with the town name? I mean, it's okay to like a character, but I think the author's attempt to put Teyla up front and in center is a little over the top. What is she, the most important Athosian who lived? Then also, the stuff with dreaming about future makes no sense, because it's pretty significant detail in a TV show like SGA. So, I'd call that a far far stretch that does alter the canon.
I think we can sum it up under "finding her destiny in Atlantis", which IS a horrible cliche, for all the author's effort to portray Teyla as strong, independent, important character, because in this way she fulfills her purpose only after meeting 'the noble strangers from other galaxy'. I can't really agree with that, because I always thought of Teyla as someone who already had her purpose and her place in the Pegasus - universe, and she consciously kept her identity separate from Atlanteans, although she did fit in among them. She already had a purpose, and that's something she's not giving up on; it's just that her purpose coincides with the expedition mission.
Certainly, there are Teyla fans who can't wait to read these books, but they're not really interested in Teyla's development or importance. I believe their interests lay elsewhere.I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Maybe I should make an enquiry about it on the thread. *ponders*Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Anuna View PostWhat kind of question, FH?
I haven't read any book of SGA though... so if I were to start now why would I want to pick these up?Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostBut so far that seems to be a bit of a problem though... a few inconsistencies here and there... just a few.... 1, 2, maybe 3 or 4 and okay 5 and/or 6.... and a few more after that. Let's just say canon might look a little different than what canon looks like now.
Originally posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View PostI think I'm going to be sick
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostMaybe I should ask to give me a few good reasons why I should read these books?
I haven't read any book of SGA though... so if I were to start now why would I want to pick these up?
When in actuality what it comes down to is the ball is in her court and she gets to make the rules. MGM seems to approve of whatever outline they got. We'll just see if the final manuscript gets a go and the first book actually comes out on time in October. In the meantime I'd say we just spread the word that canon is not being adhered to. Ultimately, the lovers of this kind of fanfic will buy it.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostOh dear. I can't speak for Teyla fans but I don't like it when authors reinvent canon to suit themselves. It sounds like it's leading toward "finding her destiny on Atlantis". *hurls* No matter how much we tend to disagree with how TPTB wrote the characters and how the arcs played out, we still have to accept their decisions. I see nothing wrong with letting them grow past the point of how they were left in EatG but you can't go backwards. The more I hear about this new background the less I like it. Oh well, I don't have to read it.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostHuh. If it's okay to alter canon in the novels, then this is my take on the scene from echoes:
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Carson, I need some help here
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Oh, God, Elizabeth! What happened?
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It's all my fault Carson. She said she'd had a rough day at work and needed me to shag her senseless, and, well, things got a bit out of hand....
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostA certain fanfic writer who is a fan of another ship writes him that way. She is one of the authors of the new Legacy series of novels and we're hoping she stays a little more with canon in the books.
Originally posted by Anuna View PostHello guys!
On recent book discussion - I agree with SK, we're looking at details here, but details which, combined together, create a really weird picture. What's up with the town name? I mean, it's okay to like a character, but I think the author's attempt to put Teyla up front and in center is a little over the top. What is she, the most important Athosian who lived? Then also, the stuff with dreaming about future makes no sense, because it's pretty significant detail in a TV show like SGA. So, I'd call that a far far stretch that does alter the canon.
I think we can sum it up under "finding her destiny in Atlantis", which IS a horrible cliche, for all the author's effort to portray Teyla as strong, independent, important character, because in this way she fulfills her purpose only after meeting 'the noble strangers from other galaxy'. I can't really agree with that, because I always thought of Teyla as someone who already had her purpose and her place in the Pegasus - universe, and she consciously kept her identity separate from Atlanteans, although she did fit in among them. She already had a purpose, and that's something she's not giving up on; it's just that her purpose coincides with the expedition mission.
Certainly, there are Teyla fans who can't wait to read these books, but they're not really interested in Teyla's development or importance. I believe their interests lay elsewhere.
Oh well, we'll show 'em how it's done when we unleash Atlantis Rising.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostMaybe I should ask to give me a few good reasons why I should read these books?
I haven't read any book of SGA though... so if I were to start now why would I want to pick these up?
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostDo you mean ask the author? I'm sure you'd get the usual spin on how she's continuing the story and expanding the backgrounds and staying oh so close to canon because after all she respects and loves and honors the whole SGA 'verse. I have a whole long list of specifics I'd like to ask but I'm sure I'd be accused of being confrontational and just being bitter because my ship isn't being written and so on.
When in actuality what it comes down to is the ball is in her court and she gets to make the rules. MGM seems to approve of whatever outline they got. We'll just see if the final manuscript gets a go and the first book actually comes out on time in October. In the meantime I'd say we just spread the word that canon is not being adhered to. Ultimately, the lovers of this kind of fanfic will buy it.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostStick with the books that were written by Whitelaw and Christensen; Chosen was okay, Blood Ties was a little cracky but still fun, Exogenesis was pretty cool, and Casualties of War kicked ass (and won an award, too).
The lovers of gen-style storytelling will not be so amused, however. I can just see the bloodbath coming now...
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostTime to polish up the popcorn machine and order a case of butter. Drat! I'll be gone most of October on my cruise. You may not know this guys but everytime we've had a big event I've been on vacation. This should be interesting. I think the ship has wireless so I'll have to check in.I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostTime to polish up the popcorn machine and order a case of butter. Drat! I'll be gone most of October on my cruise. You may not know this guys but everytime we've had a big event I've been on vacation. This should be interesting. I think the ship has wireless so I'll have to check in.
A cruise, eh? Where are you going?
Originally posted by Anuna View PostDoes that mean there will be a big event in October? (What happened with previous vacations and big events, what is that about?)
Originally posted by KrisRussel View PostThe more I'm hearing about the books, the more I'm looking forward to Atlantis Rising!!!!!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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