Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Scary Kitty]

For starters, there's this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcABP...ayer_embedded#! from our very own Southern Red. I don't know how to do the time/link thingee, but the empty office bit is at 3m50s. I will have to find one with the chair sitting (he's not conducting a meeting, or having an interview, he just sits down in her chair with a rather lost look on her face). I've seen so many recently, now I have to re-watch

The clip of him standing in her empty office is from Adrift. There is no scene that shows him sitting in her chair, however.

That's why he could afford (no pun intended) to be so, err, outspoken re some earlier show changes. That, and he sounds like a top bloke (who can beat a truckload of beer??)

He is totally a class act, especially when he's calling out the bad guys.

Of course, a beer delivery for cast and crew helps, too.

[gateraid]

Adrift, eh? I got lost in my history pages, then ended up looking through some in-memorian stuff for Don S. Davis (a man who was so much more than simply Hammond of Texas)

But back on topic

I've found proof Weir lived longer than the end of Lifeline, on GW's site. The first is from TMC's transcript, the others are from the omnipedia character bio's.

Quote:

KELLER: Part of her brain had been replaced by nanites. It was done to save her life but it made her dangerous. Whenever she linked with other Replicators, the human part of her exerted an unhealthy influence – at least, that's the way Oberoth saw it.

The key word there is whenever ie more than the one time that we actually saw

There's also this:

Quote:

This allowed Elizabeth to access the Replicators' collective consciousness and lead Sheppard's team on a daring mission to save Atlantis. Elizabeth herself confronted the Replicator leader, Oberoth, distracting him long enough for her people to escape -- though she herself had to remain behind.

When the team encountered a Replicator-made double of Elizabeth several months later, they learned the probable fate of their friend: Oberoth had her executed. The double herself was killed (along with doubles of Sheppard's team) saving them.

and this:

Quote:

Be All My Sins Remember'd - In the wake of the destruction of the Replicator homeworld, a version of Weir -- most likely a Replicator copy herself -- leads a ship full of survivors.



A replicator copy, so she had to be alive (for a period at least) in order to be copied. Why would they make copies in the first place - giant plot hole


My question - did TPTW read this?

[Fionnait]

We decided to redecorate. Like it? LOL!

You can redecorate all you like, as long as you're all still in the thread!

[Probie]

SK: Yes it was me who put the link

Gateraid: I can't remember a scene like this. I hope you will find it and show us.

Airports are closed everywhere in France. My friend is stuck in Egland. My godfather is stuck here and my cousin has to go in the south of France to see her mom and start school again but not plane. And the funny part: there is a "train strike" again. I love my country.lol

Little question: My mom can vote or no? She's still a fan.lol

[Southern Red]

SK: Yes it was me who put the link

Gateraid: I can't remember a scene like this. I hope you will find it and show us.

Airports are closed everywhere in France. My friend is stuck in Egland. My godfather is stuck here and my cousin has to go in the south of France to see her mom and start school again but not plane. And the funny part: there is a "train strike" again. I love my country.lol

Little question: My mom can vote or no? She's still a fan.lol

Hmmm? Good question on your mom. I think we have to limit the voting to people who participate in the thread. She can register and post and then she can vote.

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday and HAPPY SPARKY DAY!!!

Adrift, eh? I got lost in my history pages, then ended up looking through some in-memorian stuff for Don S. Davis (a man who was so much more than simply Hammond of Texas)

*salutes Don and wibbles*

But back on topic

I've found proof Weir lived longer than the end of Lifeline, on GW's site. The first is from TMC's transcript, the others are from the omnipedia character bio's.

Quote:

KELLER: Part of her brain had been replaced by nanites. It was done to save her life but it made her dangerous. Whenever she linked with other Replicators, the human part of her exerted an unhealthy influence – at least, that's the way Oberoth saw it.

The key word there is whenever ie more than the one time that we actually saw

There's also this:

Quote:

This allowed Elizabeth to access the Replicators' collective consciousness and lead Sheppard's team on a daring mission to save Atlantis. Elizabeth herself confronted the Replicator leader, Oberoth, distracting him long enough for her people to escape -- though she herself had to remain behind.

When the team encountered a Replicator-made double of Elizabeth several months later, they learned the probable fate of their friend: Oberoth had her executed. The double herself was killed (along with doubles of Sheppard's team) saving them.

and this:

Quote:

Be All My Sins Remember'd - In the wake of the destruction of the Replicator homeworld, a version of Weir -- most likely a Replicator copy herself -- leads a ship full of survivors.



A replicator copy, so she had to be alive (for a period at least) in order to be copied. Why would they make copies in the first place - giant plot hole


My question - did TPTW read this?

This is TPTW we're talking about. They'll ignore it if it's convenient for them. Also, I was (and still am) pretty annoyed about that "probable fate" comment in the GW omnipedia. It's not "probable," only "possible." Which is a big difference. As I've said time and time again, we've never seen any independently verifiable proof she's dead. All we've got is hearsay from Replicators. I am so sick of seeing people stupidly believing those claims without anything to back it up. It's even more frustrating to see the biggest Stargate fan site out there falling for the lie.

As you've just demonstrated, however, we're not going to let them forget it. Ever.

I saw Lilo and Stitch on the Disney Channel yesterday, and there's a quote there that fits: Ohana means family. Family means no one gets left behind, or forgotten.

Elizabeth is ohana, damnit. You don't leave ohana behind!

You can redecorate all you like, as long as you're all still in the thread!

*cackles* No worries about that! We're not going anywhere!

SK: Yes it was me who put the link

Gateraid: I can't remember a scene like this. I hope you will find it and show us.

Probie, could you repost that link, since gateraid must've missed it when the other thread went kaboom?

Airports are closed everywhere in France. My friend is stuck in Egland. My godfather is stuck here and my cousin has to go in the south of France to see her mom and start school again but not plane. And the funny part: there is a "train strike" again. I love my country.lol

Gee, how very mercenary of the train workers.

Little question: My mom can vote or no? She's still a fan.lol

What SR said: your mom should join the forum and post!

[nephtys59]

Oh yes I agree: mothers/fathers and even grandmothers/fathers are welcomed to join our Sparky thread!
I'm not a teenager myself: I'm 50 after all

HAPPY SPARKY DAY TO EVERYBODY!!!

[Probie]

Probie, could you repost that link, since gateraid must've missed it when the other thread went kaboom?



Gee, how very mercenary of the train workers.

the link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...-atlantis_news

For the train is always like this. There is always a strike with them.

Oh yes I agree: mothers/fathers and even grandmothers/fathers are welcomed to join our Sparky thread!
I'm not a teenager myself: I'm 50 after all

HAPPY SPARKY DAY TO EVERYBODY!!!

What SR said: your mom should join the forum and post!

Hmmm? Good question on your mom. I think we have to limit the voting to people who participate in the thread. She can register and post and then she can vote.

My mom won't join this thread because:
-she can't understand english
-it means more work for me because I have to be next her to translate her sentences and I already have some problems for me.lol
-she can't use a computer.

Just for information: her vote is "The Eye" and "Common Ground".

[Scary Kitty]

There's that link! I said it before, and I'll say it again, Joe is such a goofball! LOL!

[Probie]

French girl talking.........Goofball?

[Southern Red]

Oh yes I agree: mothers/fathers and even grandmothers/fathers are welcomed to join our Sparky thread!
I'm not a teenager myself: I'm 50 after all

HAPPY SPARKY DAY TO EVERYBODY!!!

Oh wow, I thought I was the only one here on the far side of 50. *high fives*

There's that link! I said it before, and I'll say it again, Joe is such a goofball! LOL!

From some of the early con reports, I hear the boys had a ball yesterday. It must have been Mr. SR's virtual sangria. LOL

[pkprd869]

The new thread is up... cool. Not so cool... working 16 hours. Stupid ladle and stupid production getting the stupid steel caught under the stupid furnace. Oh, the fairy tale stories are gone, I typed them in the thread instead of copying from Word Who's got some fun sparky stuff to cheer me up.

[Southern Red]

Me me me...fun Sparky coming up.

Spoiler:

Not Sparky, but just cause it's my favorite. My homage to Con Air.

Spoiler:

[Scary Kitty]

French girl talking.........Goofball?

It means that he's a silly person.

Oh wow, I thought I was the only one here on the far side of 50. *high fives*



From some of the early con reports, I hear the boys had a ball yesterday. It must have been Mr. SR's virtual sangria. LOL

Heh! Guess we'll have to have the sangria on hand for all future SS6 social functions!

The new thread is up... cool. Not so cool... working 16 hours. Stupid ladle and stupid production getting the stupid steel caught under the stupid furnace. Oh, the fairy tale stories are gone, I typed them in the thread instead of copying from Word Who's got some fun sparky stuff to cheer me up.

Bad steel factory! Bad! *shakes finger*

We're all hoping the fairy tales and the rest of the thread aren't lost forever. *crosses fingers*

And that reminds me, I have some fic recs to post!

ETA: *dies laughing at SR's latest motivator pic spam*

[Southern Red]

It means that he's a silly person.



Heh! Guess we'll have to have the sangria on hand for all future SS6 social functions!



Bad steel factory! Bad! *shakes finger*

We're all hoping the fairy tales and the rest of the thread aren't lost forever. *crosses fingers*

And that reminds me, I have some fic recs to post!

ETA: *dies laughing at SR's latest motivator pic spam*

Actually I'm loving this new thread. Should be celebrate hitting 100 posts? *dies laughing*