Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[JT-2]

I just posted over on LJ about the Sparky Advent calendar. I always seem to forget this until it's pretty late. I don't know if people even want to do it any more. I'm not particularly keen on organizing it, but if lots of people still want to produce art/fic then I will do it.

The post is over here. If you don't have LJ, please feel free to respond here. I suppose I should pimp it out on Tumblr too.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

so i was watching the pilot of Almost Human and Karl Urban's John Kennex reminds me a little bit of Joe Flanigan's John Sheppard. a little bit.

[Nolamom]

I really enjoyed the premiere of Almost Human

[Infinite-Possibilities]

You know I've always been a big fan of Karl Urban, and TV pickings have been pretty slim for me these days. I'm wondering if should give it Almost Human a shot. Still, trying to get invested into something new always feels like lot of effort.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

You know I've always been a big fan of Karl Urban, and TV pickings have been pretty slim for me these days. I'm wondering if should give it Almost Human a shot. Still, trying to get invested into something new always feels like lot of effort.

i think you should. I'm also a Big Fan of Karl Urban but this show reminds me of Blade Runner meets I Robot (both movies i enjoyed alot).

[Falcon Horus]

I just posted over on LJ about the Sparky Advent calendar. I always seem to forget this until it's pretty late. I don't know if people even want to do it any more. I'm not particularly keen on organizing it, but if lots of people still want to produce art/fic then I will do it.

Positive response +1

[Nolamom]

I could do a day or two of a Sparky Advent

[Sparky She-Demon]

I really enjoyed the premiere of Almost Human

I liked it as well. Quite funny.

[Southern Red]

i think you should. I'm also a Big Fan of Karl Urban but this show reminds me of Blade Runner meets I Robot (both movies i enjoyed alot).

The last thing Mr. SR and I need is another show, but since we recently dropped Arrow, maybe we'll give Almost Human a try. In case you're wondering, Arrow got too squirrelly for us…too much change from the premise, don't like the people…same old story.

[Falcon Horus]

Arrow didn't change... the story just evolved. A little sad to not have John Barrowman any more but perhaps there will be flashbacks... but there's always Summer Glau to look forward to.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i saw the first 5 episodes of season 1, dropped it like a hot potato and then picked it back up at the beginning of this season.

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Smutty Tuesday!

That would be the only reason the whole arc would make sense. Because if he just needed the genetics, well... he had access to both Teyla's and Kanaan's, and had the ability to clone. So he really didn't need the baby. The only thing that made sense was that he loved her in his sick, Wraithy way.

Connor Trinneer said that was how he played Michael, so I'd say it's safe to go with that idea. He seemed genuinely hurt when she rejected him. Good acting job, and once again the actor did a better job than the writers.

Indeed. Even before I'd read that interview, I'd had a feeling that's what was going on, and once I did read Trinneer's comments, everything just clicked into place.

i always wondered if he mastered a cloning process and he cloned himself.

That's a popular fan theory about how to bring him back but it never made sense to me. His motives for his actions are all based on things that happened to him in his life. They wouldn't apply to a clone, even a clone with his memories.

Why not? The Carson clone that Michael created acts just like the original Carson did, with the same feelings and motivations.

I suppose we're all in the wrong by making the assumption that TPTW tried to plan out a long lasting arc, while in truth they were just flying by the seat of their pants.

That can be said for pretty much the entire series. Except for Season 1, where they actually did have something of a plan.

[Falcon Horus]

Why not? The Carson clone that Michael created acts just like the original Carson did, with the same feelings and motivations.

Except that is considered a plothole on the writer's part... Unless Michael was also able to imprint this clone with - lack for better word - a soul.

[Sparky She-Demon]

[Infinite-Possibilities]

Why not? The Carson clone that Michael created acts just like the original Carson did, with the same feelings and motivations.

Michael's existential crisis is centered around the fact that he's alone. He's unique and one of a kind. Betrayed and rejected by both wraith and humanity, his only companion is revenge. Having another being who fits that exact bill kind of mucks that up a little bit. And the clone will have to deal with the fact that'd he feel all those memories but none of them would be real. I'm not entirely sure he'd thank Michael for it. There's also the fact that with Michael's weird thing for Teyla, he probably wouldn't want to create somebody else with the same desire. Surely that alone would cause problems for the clones?

The duplicates of the team that the rouge Asuarans created or the clone Carson may have essentially the same personality as the original team but they can't have exactly the same sense of identity because they know they aren't the "really" them. And Michael's motives fotr galactic domination are inherently caught up in his sense of identity.