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    Love that little puff of wind blowing across Todd as the cloaked jumper takes off. Nice touch.
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    Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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      And thus ends another crackalicious post-a-thon! Thanks to everyone who joined us today, and be sure to come back next week for to meet Rodney's more-awesome-than-he-is sister Jeannie on "McKay and Mrs. Miller!" Same Sparky-time, same Sparky-channel!
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      Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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        Originally posted by mandogater View Post
        Haven't got back to it yet. Maybe next weekend.
        You're going to hate me for what I've been up to in the most recently posted chapter!
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          It's nice ending, even if I would have loved an Atlantis one, I get why they choose this one, kinda showing that we haven't seen the last of Todd yet.
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            Originally posted by Brie View Post
            It's nice ending, even if I would have loved an Atlantis one, I get why they choose this one, kinda showing that we haven't seen the last of Todd yet.
            It was criminal to not have some sort of reunion-on-Atlantis scene. Curse you, PTW.
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            Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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              Originally posted by Sparky She-Demon View Post
              You're going to hate me for what I've been up to in the most recently posted chapter!
              You mean like this? or this
              I tell you Teal'c, hockey is the coolest game on Earth!

              Did you not say it is played on ice, O'Neill?

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                Originally posted by Scary Kitty View Post
                It was criminal to not have some sort of reunion-on-Atlantis scene. Curse you, PTW.
                Anybody know of any good fanfics on the subject that will tempt me back to ff.net sooner?
                I tell you Teal'c, hockey is the coolest game on Earth!

                Did you not say it is played on ice, O'Neill?

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                  Originally posted by mandogater View Post
                  You mean like this? or this
                  Like this:
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                    I always wondered and maybe there really isn’t an answer but how do you pronounce Kolya’s name, I mean because you can hear them say it in two ways, though similar

                    Is it:

                    Kol-ya (like say Sheppard and I think Weir say it)

                    Or is it like

                    Kol-i-ya (like we hear others say it)

                    It’s possible that it’s just my mind playing tricks on me and I hear it differently but it’s something that I’ve reacted on.
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                      Originally posted by gateraid View Post
                      I don't buy him thinking Atlantis was a dream. He was pretty quick to pick up on the altered reality in Home. Granted, the situation would be a little different here (wouldn't it be interesting to see what scenario they came up with?) so I can't say that with absolute certainty. In order to make it work in his head, I think they would have to make it similar to Phantoms (confusing the enemies via flashbacks), which would be a lot harder to write.

                      I also think that had it been John, there is no way he would have seen Elizabeth. I can't think of a way that could occur without it being shippy.
                      It's more likely he would have seen Rodney, or possibly Teyla (which they could fudge a little by it being a side effect of the wraith tissue injected into him).
                      I think I agree with you when you say that John might have found himself in a flashback military situation instead of waking up in a psychiatric hospital. The scenario the nanites would have fabricated would really depend on the person, and they would have worked to inflict the most traumatizing experience as possible. The nanites would have wanted to bring back John's past mistakes to haunt him. For Elizabeth, a psychiatric hospital experience worked, because she was so deeply connected to Atlantis and put her whole heart into her job. What better way to cause her emotional trauma than by telling her that what she had devoted herself to for the past two years was nothing but a figment of her imagination? She's also usually very calm and composed, so by planting her in a psychiatric hospital, the nanites wanted to make her believe that there truly was something mentally wrong with her.

                      And I agree that John wouldn't have seen Elizabeth. The implications of that would have been too obvious, and it wouldn't have pleased non-Sparky shippers.

                      I agree that Kolya probably wouldn't have let Todd feed on her. Also that her and Todd escaping together seems unlikely (unless he carries her). When I read the synopsis for TRW, I thought at the time "how the hell did the wraith get hold of her?". This was before I'd watched s3 and heard of the Asurans.

                      However I do think she wouldn't have wanted him to use extraordinary measures. She'd already proven in Seige II that she'd put her life on the line for the cause, with the understanding of what it meant to fail (although granted, in that case, there was a chance she'd die anyway even if her mission was successful). While in CG it was semi-implied that she was okay with Ronon killing Kolya, she still stuck to the party line (we do not negotiate with terrorists) for everything else.
                      That is a good point. Even if their roles had been switched, Elizabeth wouldn't have wanted John to give in, and she would be willing to face whatever danger to come. But I think that Elizabeth would know that even if John didn't give in to Koyla's demands, Kolya wouldn't dare to harm her, at least not torture her. All Koyla could do is wait, and I think that Elizabeth would be able to take some small comfort in that. She would do her part by stalling for as much time as possible and trust John not to give in and instead wait for the appropriate time to send in teams and get her out.

                      Originally posted by Scary Kitty View Post
                      So, that's three in the bird bath... I'll bring the sunflower seeds.
                      Make that four. I'm with you three on this.
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                        Am I only person here that thinks they danced the horizontal tango?
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                          Originally posted by Southern Red View Post
                          And, on that note, I have to miss the postathon today due to a commitment to attend a Christmas concert at our friend's church. Bad timing.
                          I can do one better as to why I missed the thon today. As you might remember I mentioned one of my best friends being pregnant. So she should have been due 'round christmas. However, as it so happens the Peanut (as we fondly dubbed the little one) couldn't wait that long and decided the 9th of december was as good as a day as any to come say hello. Her name's Elise, btw (not Peanut although she'll always be the Peanut to us).
                          Too bad though that me, the cardmaker, and my sister, the cupcake-maker, were at another friend's birthday party when the call came in to send the card and start baking the cupcakes.

                          And thus ends my little tale as to why I couldn't make the thon today... better luck next week, hopefully.

                          Originally posted by Southern Red View Post
                          Is "Need for Speed" a game? That's what did it on mine. After the restore, some things just don't work.
                          It is. I play it on my Xbox.

                          Originally posted by Pearl of Atlantis76 View Post
                          I disagree with that, I mean if you are a true fan of someone, I think you should do your best to watch everything the actor/actress does, no matter how bad certain things might be sometimes, IMO of course.
                          Then I respectfully agree to disagree, especially after having watched Anna Karinina today. I kinda like Keira Knightley but if my best friend hadn't chosen this as her birthday film I would never have gone to watch it. And with good reason too as we sadly had to agree it wasn't all that good after all. I lost the plot about halfway through and prayed it would end real soon.

                          Costuming, cinematography, scoring, acting ... all very good. Story not so much.

                          Originally posted by gateraid View Post
                          I've missed a lot of stuff out here. But thank you to all of those who commented on that little fic I wrote. Maybe Kate is my muse?
                          Oh, so that's where she went... ...Please be so kind as to send her back. Thank you!

                          Originally posted by Brie View Post
                          I always wondered and maybe there really isn’t an answer but how do you pronounce Kolya’s name, I mean because you can hear them say it in two ways, though similar
                          Kinda like how Goa'uld was pronounced in a gazillion different ways.
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                            I'm back and glad to see the postathon went well but so sorry to have missed it.

                            I was just thinking a bit about ShipperWriter's question on the reversal of roles for John and Elizabeth in TRW and CG.

                            TRW: I think just about anyone that John might have imagined, up to and including Rodney and Ronon, would have been shippy to at least a few viewers. There is a good argument for making it Rodney. I can easily see him talking to John about how he hated to admit it, but the city did need him so he needed to wake up already. Of course, Rodney would have ended up making it all about him somehow. Also I agree with whoever else said John would probably be in a military situation like in Phantoms.

                            I can also imagine his mystery stalker being Kolya, who would be taunting him and telling him about how he was taking over the city and there was nothing he could do about it.

                            CG: This is a hard one. I don't think Kolya would have let Todd feed on Elizabeth, but he sure would have teased her and John with the idea. I think he would have brought Todd out but pulled him away from her at the last minute. And John would have moved heaven and earth to get her back, perhaps even being a bit rash and having to get a good talking to from his team. Teyla would have been the clear head who reminded John of what Elizabeth would want him to do, and I think John would have had her do the negotiating with Ladon.
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                              Wow... I didn't know that one little question would produce so much discussion. This is awesome!

                              Unfortunately, I'm brain dead, so I'll have to add my two cents in the morning!

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                                Originally posted by ShipperWriter View Post
                                Wow... I didn't know that one little question would produce so much discussion. This is awesome!

                                Unfortunately, I'm brain dead, so I'll have to add my two cents in the morning!
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