Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Sequoia Hope]

Calling people by their first name doesn't have anything to do with how well you know them, but depends on the situation. Particularly in the military, if someone of inferior rank is present, a general would never be addressed by his or her first name no matter if they are your BFF in real life, especially if they are in uniform. I'm sure the rules for this are all written down somewhere.

That said, this was the first time I have ever broken my own rule not to give editorial feedback to someone in public. This sort of thing should be done privately, so I apologize if too much advice hit a sore spot.

And all of us have shortened forms of our names to save having to do so much typing. Hopefully, you will forgive us if we slip up and shorten yours.

No worries, Southern Red. However, you can always choose to send me a PM when critiquing.

SR is the self-proclaimed editor of the thread. I like the red pen of doom. But that's a problem of mine in stories sometimes, knowing when first name basis is acceptable. Especially when it's a character's POV and trying to figure out how they would refer to another person.

And ditto on the names. It's just a typing shortcut. No slight intended.

*Groan* I always spend forever debating whose point of view to use and how to switch them around to make a story interesting and balanced. Don't suppose anyone has any general advice on that?

Oh my goodness, you two. You're going to make the new people scared of me. That privilege is reserved for the SGA-R writers and my RL "clients."

Oh, don't worry. I can tell that you have honest intentions when critiquing, so I'm not scared... yet.

Look what I found on the Online Urban Dictionary;

5. Sparky
Nickname for the pairing (ship) John Sheppard/Elizabeth Weir in Stargate Atlantis.
suppously named after the sparks between them

'I wrote a Sparky fic'
'I made a Sparky icon'
'This episode was full of Sparky moments'

Sure it's wrong on how Sparky was named Sparky but it made me chuckle when I saw it.

Lol. I found that on Urban Dictionary a while ago, too. Definitely made me grin.

[MentallyUnstableFox]

Kind of OT, so scroll on if you wish--

Anyway, since we were on the topic of grammar, punctuation, and whatnot, a few months ago I was helping another student in my class with a paper. I was helping him to make sure he got everything he needed to. I could only get through about half before my eyes started burning! He actually used the letters "u", "r", and "y" instead of "you" "are", and "why"!!! In. A. Paper. A paper. ::headwall::

One more thing, before I head off to do "zeh assignment of doom". I have a friend (who shall be reffered to as "A") who is very up to date in pop culture, celebrities etc. but is virtually hopeless when it comes to classics. It drives me crazy, and is more than a little sad, so, from my weeping heart to you, the basic gist of our conversation today:

Me:...but you know who Judy Garland is, right?
A: is she from your stargate thing, too?
Me: ::shock:: NO! What?! W-w-w-w-wait, do you know who McGyver is?! Tell me you do.
A: (chuckles) what's a McGyver?!
Me: :hyperventilation: oh my- ok, ok, ok, here, you know this one. Who's-who's-who's Cpt. Kirk?
A: I don't know! Or care!
Me: WHAT?!
A: sorry! I don't watch star wars!
Me: *diez*
A: are all these people supposed to be famous or something?
Me: *diez three more times*

That is all.

[Nolamom]

*shakes head sadly over the lack of appreciation for the classics*

[Falcon Horus]

Anyway, I hope you all feel free to sign up for a day or two.

I'm gonna try and sign up but while Sparky will of course be the main pairing I'll probably include my girls too - add a little Kate/Teyla spice to the mix, somewhere there in the background.

[Southern Red]

Kind of OT, so scroll on if you wish--

Anyway, since we were on the topic of grammar, punctuation, and whatnot, a few months ago I was helping another student in my class with a paper. I was helping him to make sure he got everything he needed to. I could only get through about half before my eyes started burning! He actually used the letters "u", "r", and "y" instead of "you" "are", and "why"!!! In. A. Paper. A paper. ::headwall::

One more thing, before I head off to do "zeh assignment of doom". I have a friend (who shall be reffered to as "A") who is very up to date in pop culture, celebrities etc. but is virtually hopeless when it comes to classics. It drives me crazy, and is more than a little sad, so, from my weeping heart to you, the basic gist of our conversation today:

Me:...but you know who Judy Garland is, right?
A: is she from your stargate thing, too?
Me: ::shock:: NO! What?! W-w-w-w-wait, do you know who McGyver is?! Tell me you do.
A: (chuckles) what's a McGyver?!
Me: :hyperventilation: oh my- ok, ok, ok, here, you know this one. Who's-who's-who's Cpt. Kirk?
A: I don't know! Or care!
Me: WHAT?!
A: sorry! I don't watch star wars!
Me: *diez*
A: are all these people supposed to be famous or something?
Me: *diez three more times*

That is all.

When you said "classics" I thought you meant Hemingway and Steinbeck and maybe Twain, but I'll accept the SciFi classics since this is, after all, a SciFi forum.

I feel your pain though because I was telling my hairdresser that I was going to the con in Chicago, and I had to explain to her what Science Fiction is. Now, granted, she's Japanese and over 50, but still. However, she can recite the names of all the contestants on American Idol and Dances With the Stars, so I guess it depends on interest. On the other hand, some things you just learn by osmosis. Did your friend never watch The Wizard of Oz? I doubt there's much hope for someone who uses letters instead of words in a paper though. I blame the education system for that one.

[Nolamom]

Don't blame the education system! Blame texting. Teachers fight the good fight every day against the "ths 4 u" mentality.

[ShipperWriter]

Day Two of Massive Head Cold. *$(%&#)%&^. *blows nose*

Go sign up! It's fun! I signed up

Now, if anyone sees my muse, send her back my way please? I only have a month to create a fic....lol

Hey, drew! I've missed seeing your avatar. LOL

*Groan* I always spend forever debating whose point of view to use and how to switch them around to make a story interesting and balanced. Don't suppose anyone has any general advice on that?

What I usually do, if I'm hung up, is I go back and find an on screen moment where either the two characters are talking to each other or one character is referring to the other character while talking with a group. Whatever tone they set onscreen is what I try to adapt into my stories to make them more realisitic. Usually.

Kind of OT, so scroll on if you wish--

Anyway, since we were on the topic of grammar, punctuation, and whatnot, a few months ago I was helping another student in my class with a paper. I was helping him to make sure he got everything he needed to. I could only get through about half before my eyes started burning! He actually used the letters "u", "r", and "y" instead of "you" "are", and "why"!!! In. A. Paper. A paper. ::headwall::

One more thing, before I head off to do "zeh assignment of doom". I have a friend (who shall be reffered to as "A") who is very up to date in pop culture, celebrities etc. but is virtually hopeless when it comes to classics. It drives me crazy, and is more than a little sad, so, from my weeping heart to you, the basic gist of our conversation today:

Me:...but you know who Judy Garland is, right?
A: is she from your stargate thing, too?
Me: ::shock:: NO! What?! W-w-w-w-wait, do you know who McGyver is?! Tell me you do.
A: (chuckles) what's a McGyver?!
Me: :hyperventilation: oh my- ok, ok, ok, here, you know this one. Who's-who's-who's Cpt. Kirk?
A: I don't know! Or care!
Me: WHAT?!
A: sorry! I don't watch star wars!
Me: *diez*
A: are all these people supposed to be famous or something?
Me: *diez three more times*

That is all.

*shakes head* Kids these days. I made a reference to Jeff Dunham yesterday in class, and they were like "okay, so what?" Then I quoted Outkast's "Hey Ya" during gym, and one girl couldn't believe I had just quoted it. Like it was an oldie or something. Ai yi yi.

Don't blame the education system! Blame texting. Teachers fight the good fight every day against the "ths 4 u" mentality.

Yes! I see it everyday. These kids don't know gramatically correct English anymore because of texting. I know one of the English teachers, and she works insanely hard to wipe that lingo from their heads. *pats on back*

[ShipperWriter]

And because I'm feeling a little under the weather, I'm self-pimpingreccing some of my old videos. Hee hee.

Spoiler:

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Screw the Angst Wednesday!

*shudders at the breakdown of common sense, good taste, and proper grammar use by kids these days*

*shakes head sadly over the lack of appreciation for the classics*

LMAO at the Wraith at the table! No wonder Ronon looks mad!

And because I'm feeling a little under the weather, I'm self-pimpingreccing some of my old videos. Hee hee.

Spoiler:

Squee! That's a cute one! And I hope you feel better soon!

[Southern Red]

Don't blame the education system! Blame texting. Teachers fight the good fight every day against the "ths 4 u" mentality.

I'm afraid if I was teaching today, I'd be even more unpopular than I was back in the old days.

Day Two of Massive Head Cold. *$(%&#)%&^. *blows nose*



Hey, drew! I've missed seeing your avatar. LOL



What I usually do, if I'm hung up, is I go back and find an on screen moment where either the two characters are talking to each other or one character is referring to the other character while talking with a group. Whatever tone they set onscreen is what I try to adapt into my stories to make them more realisitic. Usually.

The rule of thumb for POV is if you are writing from a particular character's POV, you refer to the other characters in the same way as your POV character would. For example, Ronon would think of Elizabeth as "Dr. Weir" but Teyla could also think of her as Elizabeth at times. Does that make sense?

As my betas will tell you, I have a tremendous problem with POV in respect to sticking to one at a time. I'll be writing from John's POV and then suddenly I have Elizabeth expressing a feeling. That's tough to keep straight for some reason for me. So, even though I can spot everyone else's mistakes, I make a bunch myself that I miss. That's why no one can edit their own work adequately.

*shakes head* Kids these days. I made a reference to Jeff Dunham yesterday in class, and they were like "okay, so what?" Then I quoted Outkast's "Hey Ya" during gym, and one girl couldn't believe I had just quoted it. Like it was an oldie or something. Ai yi yi.



Yes! I see it everyday. These kids don't know gramatically correct English anymore because of texting. I know one of the English teachers, and she works insanely hard to wipe that lingo from their heads. *pats on back*

I remember once my students were amazed that I knew who Bon Jovi was and that I actually wore jeans on the class camping trip. Yes, we took 120 sixth graders camping in a national forest for 3 days every year. There were cabins, but still. I was in charge of the kitchen. Yay me.

I hear from teacher friends today that the major problem is making the kids understand that school is formal and how you write for a class is different. Then I hear stories about how that carries over to resumes and job interviews. Doomed, we're doomed I say. *pounds cane*

[gateraid]

Spoiler:

Fran: Rodney, does this make my ass look big?

Spoiler:

Weir: Yes Major, we all know you have the ATA gene, but if you're going to keep showing off, then its really no surprise that some of us non-ATA plebs won't open the bay doors for you

Spoiler:

Lorne: I was wondering, are you on Team Ronon or Team Kate?

Teyla: I was wondering pretty much the same about you Major

Spoiler:

Sheppard: This bed is probably strong enough for two, 'Lizabeth

Weir: Booold. Points for trying, but next time, suggest somewhere that isn't full of cameras

Spoiler:

Lorne: Ahhhh, Ma'am, your hand.....its on my leg




Weir: Oh sorry Major. Force of habit - I'm just used to Colonel Sheppard sitting in that seat

[Sparky She-Demon]

All of those were very funny!

[Falcon Horus]

Did your friend never watch The Wizard of Oz? I doubt there's much hope for someone who uses letters instead of words in a paper though. I blame the education system for that one.

Fun fact about Wizard of Oz - the dress Judy Garland was wearing in that film was recently auctioned in a batch of Hollywood related items and made a whoopin' 480,000$.

I love that film so much.

@Gateraid
I'm on Team Kate!

I couldn't green you so just wanna say - YOU ROCK DUDE!!!

[Sparky She-Demon]

Hey, Falcon Horus, did you take a look at what was under my spoiler on the previous page?

[Falcon Horus]

Hey, Falcon Horus, did you take a look at what was under my spoiler on the previous page?

It's FH or Lemming btw... whichever you wanna use. Falcon Horus is just too long... or Heightmeyer's Lemming but that's even longer ... unless you copy and paste.

I did briefly but didn't make it past the first few sentences - I was on my phone and my lunchbreak was over.