Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[JT-2]

Kate and Katie are luckily two very different and distinct characters, and I love them both very much. Of course, I like Kate more than Katie but Katie was sooooooo cute. Rodney and Katie together was pure fluff.

I also quite liked Rodney/Katie. Then he was so obnoxious in Quarantine that I was glad they broke up.

OMGoddess, John would have a fieldday with that.



: Kate and Teyla were doing what in our... the closet?
: Really now? Please, do tell us more...
[cue Rodney's speed-talking]

See, how clever John is diverting the attention away from Elizabeth's slip-up.

Oh John.

[Aang]

Oh, and as a side note, I'm not sure if this was ever canon, but it seemed pretty commonly accepted in the fic community that Sam's full name was Samantha Grace Carter. (think initials)

SGC! LOL! Also, I like that 'cause Grace is -my- middle name, and one of my friends has taken to calling me Samantha even though it's not really my name, so Samantha Grace Carter is awesome.

[Sequoia Hope]

I believe the original name was Teresa. My headcanon has more or less adopted it as Elizabeth's middle name. Elizabeth Teresa Weir has a nice ring to it.

Wow, that's a beautiful name! Just out of curiosity, do you by any chance have a source to confirm that? If not, I'll just take your word for it.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

SGC! LOL! Also, I like that 'cause Grace is -my- middle name, and one of my friends has taken to calling me Samantha even though it's not really my name, so Samantha Grace Carter is awesome.

would be pretty cool. to see that happen.

[MentallyUnstableFox]

SGC! LOL! Also, I like that 'cause Grace is -my- middle name, and one of my friends has taken to calling me Samantha even though it's not really my name, so Samantha Grace Carter is awesome.

It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Samantha Grace.

[Scary Kitty]

Yes, Teyla was going to be called Mikala, and the chief of science wasn't originally Dr. McKay, but Dr. Ingram. Also, they originally had a different actor in mind for John, but I think he was unavailable so they went with Joe. Funny how things work out, huh?

Oh, and as a side note, I'm not sure if this was ever canon, but it seemed pretty commonly accepted in the fic community that Sam's full name was Samantha Grace Carter. (think initials)

As I recall, I think they were originally thinking of Ben Browder for Sheppard. But then they were later able to get him for Mitchell. I think it worked out better that way.

Wow, that's a beautiful name! Just out of curiosity, do you by any chance have a source to confirm that? If not, I'll just take your word for it.

Pretty sure I saw it somewhere here on GateWorld...

ETA: Found it! It's in GW's Production Notes for "Rising":

Elizabeth Weir, first created for Stargate SG-1's "Lost City," was originally "Teresa Wright," then "Teresa Weir." The same character was played by actress Jessica Steen in the SG-1 Season Seven finale.

[MentallyUnstableFox]

Weee! One last thing before I head to bed! So remember when I said I'd written some lame fics, and that I'd post some eventually? Here's the latest one I'm attempting, it's just some really really short random subtle fluffy thing set sometime in early season 3. It's not finished, but I'm not quite sure where I was going with it, so tell me if I should finish or not
It's really not very good at all, not as some of you talented story-crafters, but it probably won't have any permanent damage on your eyes. Like it? Hate it? Let me know!

Spoiler:

Elizabeth sighed, "Remind me why I'm here again, Colonel?"
"Because," John replied, "we've gotta figure out why power's not getting to this section of the city."
"And the reason somebody else couldn't go with you?"
"Because, McKay's in the infirmary trying to convince Carson he'll die from some papercut, and Teyla and Ronon are trading offworld. So." She let the subject drop, and he was glad. Technically, he could've asked one of the many other personnel in Atlantis to accompany him, but it was his personal goal to get Elizabeth out of her office for at least one hour each day. He'd take what he could get, even if they were both miserable.

Now, Elizabeth and John were trekking down a long corridor in the lower levels of the city's far east section, the only light available coming from their flashlights, looking for who-knows-what that was causing the problem. On the bright side, maybe they'd only have to find a switch to flip.
On the dark side, that probably wasn't it.
Knowing their luck, the lack of power was probably due to some obscure device that McKay would go nuts over. Or some well-intentioned invention that would end up risking everyone's life. Maybe they'd find another body in stasis. Elizabeth from the future this time.

"Knock-knock," John smirked. Elizabeth raised The Eyebrow. "Never-mind."
A few moments passed by before he tried again, "I spy?"
Elizabeth blinked in the darkness, "That was a joke, right?" she asked, shining her flashlight on his face briefly.
He shrugged, "Alright....if you were stuck on a deserted island, what one item would you bring with you?
She chuckled (another personal accomplishment for him today). "um...a book?"
"...Okay. Better than Ronon's answer. 'A boat'....Which book?"
"Hmm," she pursed her lips for a moment, "'Pride and Prejudice'."
"Ah. Jane Austen. Not bad."
She raised both Eyebrows this time. "You've read it?"
"Hey. Don't sound so surprised."
"Sorry...Just didn't think you'd be an Austen fan."
"Well...I've got....layers," that smirk again. "Like an ogre."
Elizabeth frowned. "What?"
"Shrek."
"Oh...right. I never saw that movie."
John frowned and shined his light in her eyes, "EVERYBODY saw that movie!"
"sorry," she squinted at the glare and pushed his arm away,"I was a little busy with international treaties at the time."
..."I guess that's understandable....Hold on, you've seen Toy Story, right?"
"Yes, I'm not crazy, Colonel."
"Just checking."

(I learned spoiler tags too!)
'Night!

[Southern Red]

Weee! One last thing before I head to bed! So remember when I said I'd written some lame fics, and that I'd post some eventually? Here's the latest one I'm attempting, it's just some really really short random subtle fluffy thing set sometime in early season 3. It's not finished, but I'm not quite sure where I was going with it, so tell me if I should finish or not
It's really not very good at all, not as some of you talented story-crafters, but it probably won't have any permanent damage on your eyes. Like it? Hate it? Let me know!

Spoiler:

Elizabeth sighed, "Remind me why I'm here again, Colonel?"
"Because," John replied, "we've gotta figure out why power's not getting to this section of the city."
"And the reason somebody else couldn't go with you?"
"Because, McKay's in the infirmary trying to convince Carson he'll die from some papercut, and Teyla and Ronon are trading offworld. So." She let the subject drop, and he was glad. Technically, he could've asked one of the many other personnel in Atlantis to accompany him, but it was his personal goal to get Elizabeth out of her office for at least one hour each day. He'd take what he could get, even if they were both miserable.

Now, Elizabeth and John were trekking down a long corridor in the lower levels of the city's far east section, the only light available coming from their flashlights, looking for who-knows-what that was causing the problem. On the bright side, maybe they'd only have to find a switch to flip.
On the dark side, that probably wasn't it.
Knowing their luck, the lack of power was probably due to some obscure device that McKay would go nuts over. Or some well-intentioned invention that would end up risking everyone's life. Maybe they'd find another body in stasis. Elizabeth from the future this time.

"Knock-knock," John smirked. Elizabeth raised The Eyebrow. "Never-mind."
A few moments passed by before he tried again, "I spy?"
Elizabeth blinked in the darkness, "That was a joke, right?" she asked, shining her flashlight on his face briefly.
He shrugged, "Alright....if you were stuck on a deserted island, what one item would you bring with you?
She chuckled (another personal accomplishment for him today). "um...a book?"
"...Okay. Better than Ronon's answer. 'A boat'....Which book?"
"Hmm," she pursed her lips for a moment, "'Pride and Prejudice'."
"Ah. Jane Austen. Not bad."
She raised both Eyebrows this time. "You've read it?"
"Hey. Don't sound so surprised."
"Sorry...Just didn't think you'd be an Austen fan."
"Well...I've got....layers," that smirk again. "Like an ogre."
Elizabeth frowned. "What?"
"Shrek."
"Oh...right. I never saw that movie."
John frowned and shined his light in her eyes, "EVERYBODY saw that movie!"
"sorry," she squinted at the glare and pushed his arm away,"I was a little busy with international treaties at the time."
..."I guess that's understandable....Hold on, you've seen Toy Story, right?"
"Yes, I'm not crazy, Colonel."
"Just checking."

(I learned spoiler tags too!)
'Night!

That little bit of fluffy fic was adorable, and you absolutely must write more. Trust me, I'm The Editor. *waves red pen* Seriously, don't put down your writing ability. I saw very little that I would change in that fic. You'll find that fandom is very kind to writers, especially in threads like this. We support anyone who attempts to write Sparky fic, and speaking only for myself, I give praise where praise is due. If I'm silent, you know I'm trying to not say anything negative. LOL But I definitely see promise in your writing. More please.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

As I recall, I think they were originally thinking of Ben Browder for Sheppard. But then they were later able to get him for Mitchell. I think it worked out better that way.



Pretty sure I saw it somewhere here on GateWorld...

ETA: Found it! It's in GW's Production Notes for "Rising":

Elizabeth Weir, first created for Stargate SG-1's "Lost City," was originally "Teresa Wright," then "Teresa Weir." The same character was played by actress Jessica Steen in the SG-1 Season Seven finale.

agree Joe was the better candidate for Sheppard. and im glad they went with Elizabeth. John and Teresa doesn't sound right. was John Sheppard the only name they picked for that character or were there more?

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Sparky!Family and College Football Saturday! Good luck to everyone's teams!

Weee! One last thing before I head to bed! So remember when I said I'd written some lame fics, and that I'd post some eventually? Here's the latest one I'm attempting, it's just some really really short random subtle fluffy thing set sometime in early season 3. It's not finished, but I'm not quite sure where I was going with it, so tell me if I should finish or not
It's really not very good at all, not as some of you talented story-crafters, but it probably won't have any permanent damage on your eyes. Like it? Hate it? Let me know!

Spoiler:

Elizabeth sighed, "Remind me why I'm here again, Colonel?"
"Because," John replied, "we've gotta figure out why power's not getting to this section of the city."
"And the reason somebody else couldn't go with you?"
"Because, McKay's in the infirmary trying to convince Carson he'll die from some papercut, and Teyla and Ronon are trading offworld. So." She let the subject drop, and he was glad. Technically, he could've asked one of the many other personnel in Atlantis to accompany him, but it was his personal goal to get Elizabeth out of her office for at least one hour each day. He'd take what he could get, even if they were both miserable.

Now, Elizabeth and John were trekking down a long corridor in the lower levels of the city's far east section, the only light available coming from their flashlights, looking for who-knows-what that was causing the problem. On the bright side, maybe they'd only have to find a switch to flip.
On the dark side, that probably wasn't it.
Knowing their luck, the lack of power was probably due to some obscure device that McKay would go nuts over. Or some well-intentioned invention that would end up risking everyone's life. Maybe they'd find another body in stasis. Elizabeth from the future this time.

"Knock-knock," John smirked. Elizabeth raised The Eyebrow. "Never-mind."
A few moments passed by before he tried again, "I spy?"
Elizabeth blinked in the darkness, "That was a joke, right?" she asked, shining her flashlight on his face briefly.
He shrugged, "Alright....if you were stuck on a deserted island, what one item would you bring with you?
She chuckled (another personal accomplishment for him today). "um...a book?"
"...Okay. Better than Ronon's answer. 'A boat'....Which book?"
"Hmm," she pursed her lips for a moment, "'Pride and Prejudice'."
"Ah. Jane Austen. Not bad."
She raised both Eyebrows this time. "You've read it?"
"Hey. Don't sound so surprised."
"Sorry...Just didn't think you'd be an Austen fan."
"Well...I've got....layers," that smirk again. "Like an ogre."
Elizabeth frowned. "What?"
"Shrek."
"Oh...right. I never saw that movie."
John frowned and shined his light in her eyes, "EVERYBODY saw that movie!"
"sorry," she squinted at the glare and pushed his arm away,"I was a little busy with international treaties at the time."
..."I guess that's understandable....Hold on, you've seen Toy Story, right?"
"Yes, I'm not crazy, Colonel."
"Just checking."

(I learned spoiler tags too!)
'Night!

AHAHAHAHAH! That's so adorkable! Oh John, you silly, silly boy. He's really going to have to set up a movie night so Elizabeth can see all the movies she's missed out on.

[Ankareeda]

Weee! One last thing before I head to bed! So remember when I said I'd written some lame fics, and that I'd post some eventually? Here's the latest one I'm attempting, it's just some really really short random subtle fluffy thing set sometime in early season 3. It's not finished, but I'm not quite sure where I was going with it, so tell me if I should finish or not
It's really not very good at all, not as some of you talented story-crafters, but it probably won't have any permanent damage on your eyes. Like it? Hate it? Let me know!

Spoiler:

Elizabeth sighed, "Remind me why I'm here again, Colonel?"
"Because," John replied, "we've gotta figure out why power's not getting to this section of the city."
"And the reason somebody else couldn't go with you?"
"Because, McKay's in the infirmary trying to convince Carson he'll die from some papercut, and Teyla and Ronon are trading offworld. So." She let the subject drop, and he was glad. Technically, he could've asked one of the many other personnel in Atlantis to accompany him, but it was his personal goal to get Elizabeth out of her office for at least one hour each day. He'd take what he could get, even if they were both miserable.

Now, Elizabeth and John were trekking down a long corridor in the lower levels of the city's far east section, the only light available coming from their flashlights, looking for who-knows-what that was causing the problem. On the bright side, maybe they'd only have to find a switch to flip.
On the dark side, that probably wasn't it.
Knowing their luck, the lack of power was probably due to some obscure device that McKay would go nuts over. Or some well-intentioned invention that would end up risking everyone's life. Maybe they'd find another body in stasis. Elizabeth from the future this time.

"Knock-knock," John smirked. Elizabeth raised The Eyebrow. "Never-mind."
A few moments passed by before he tried again, "I spy?"
Elizabeth blinked in the darkness, "That was a joke, right?" she asked, shining her flashlight on his face briefly.
He shrugged, "Alright....if you were stuck on a deserted island, what one item would you bring with you?
She chuckled (another personal accomplishment for him today). "um...a book?"
"...Okay. Better than Ronon's answer. 'A boat'....Which book?"
"Hmm," she pursed her lips for a moment, "'Pride and Prejudice'."
"Ah. Jane Austen. Not bad."
She raised both Eyebrows this time. "You've read it?"
"Hey. Don't sound so surprised."
"Sorry...Just didn't think you'd be an Austen fan."
"Well...I've got....layers," that smirk again. "Like an ogre."
Elizabeth frowned. "What?"
"Shrek."
"Oh...right. I never saw that movie."
John frowned and shined his light in her eyes, "EVERYBODY saw that movie!"
"sorry," she squinted at the glare and pushed his arm away,"I was a little busy with international treaties at the time."
..."I guess that's understandable....Hold on, you've seen Toy Story, right?"
"Yes, I'm not crazy, Colonel."
"Just checking."

(I learned spoiler tags too!)
'Night!

Awwww, that's a very sweet fic, great work. I would love to read more. YAY for Toy Story! ???

[Brie]

Kate and Katie are luckily two very different and distinct characters, and I love them both very much. Of course, I like Kate more than Katie but Katie was sooooooo cute. Rodney and Katie together was pure fluff.

I always really liked Katie and Rodney, I felt as if she had the ability to make him more humble.

I also quite liked Rodney/Katie. Then he was so obnoxious in Quarantine that I was glad they broke up.

Up until then at least, it was a pretty awful way to treat someone you’ve dated for as long as they have, I mean even if he wasn’t ready to get married she deserved to have him tell her in a more mature and a better way and he should have really talked to her. Instead she became another person we never saw or heard from again.

Pretty sure I saw it somewhere here on GateWorld...

ETA: Found it! It's in GW's Production Notes for "Rising":

Elizabeth Weir, first created for Stargate SG-1's "Lost City," was originally "Teresa Wright," then "Teresa Weir." The same character was played by actress Jessica Steen in the SG-1 Season Seven finale.

That was it, that’s where I read it I just didn’t remember that it was Teresa.

[Aang]

Up until then at least, it was a pretty awful way to treat someone you’ve dated for as long as they have, I mean even if he wasn’t ready to get married she deserved to have him tell her in a more mature and a better way and he should have really talked to her. Instead she became another person we never saw or heard from again.

Well we all know Rodney's not exactly the tactful one around women...as evidenced by Carson's reaction to Rodney having a date at the beginning of "Duet"

You have a DATE, Rodney? With a WOMAN?

It's just two mature adults--Yes, with a WOMAN!

[Brie]

Well we all know Rodney's not exactly the tactful one around women...as evidenced by Carson's reaction to Rodney having a date at the beginning of "Duet"

You have a DATE, Rodney? With a WOMAN?

It's just two mature adults--Yes, with a WOMAN!

Very true, he wasn’t exactly known for his tact however I just thought that after spending over two years with someone they deserved that he at least tried to talk to her, he didn’t even say that he was sorry.

[Sequoia Hope]

Pretty sure I saw it somewhere here on GateWorld...

ETA: Found it! It's in GW's Production Notes for "Rising":

Elizabeth Weir, first created for Stargate SG-1's "Lost City," was originally "Teresa Wright," then "Teresa Weir." The same character was played by actress Jessica Steen in the SG-1 Season Seven finale.

Thanks! I'm very glad that they changed it to Elizabeth, but Elizabeth Teresa Weir sounds beautiful. Maybe I'll adopt it in my "headcanon" as Elizabeth's full name, too.

Weee! One last thing before I head to bed! So remember when I said I'd written some lame fics, and that I'd post some eventually? Here's the latest one I'm attempting, it's just some really really short random subtle fluffy thing set sometime in early season 3. It's not finished, but I'm not quite sure where I was going with it, so tell me if I should finish or not
It's really not very good at all, not as some of you talented story-crafters, but it probably won't have any permanent damage on your eyes. Like it? Hate it? Let me know!

Spoiler:

Elizabeth sighed, "Remind me why I'm here again, Colonel?"
"Because," John replied, "we've gotta figure out why power's not getting to this section of the city."
"And the reason somebody else couldn't go with you?"
"Because, McKay's in the infirmary trying to convince Carson he'll die from some papercut, and Teyla and Ronon are trading offworld. So." She let the subject drop, and he was glad. Technically, he could've asked one of the many other personnel in Atlantis to accompany him, but it was his personal goal to get Elizabeth out of her office for at least one hour each day. He'd take what he could get, even if they were both miserable.

Now, Elizabeth and John were trekking down a long corridor in the lower levels of the city's far east section, the only light available coming from their flashlights, looking for who-knows-what that was causing the problem. On the bright side, maybe they'd only have to find a switch to flip.
On the dark side, that probably wasn't it.
Knowing their luck, the lack of power was probably due to some obscure device that McKay would go nuts over. Or some well-intentioned invention that would end up risking everyone's life. Maybe they'd find another body in stasis. Elizabeth from the future this time.

"Knock-knock," John smirked. Elizabeth raised The Eyebrow. "Never-mind."
A few moments passed by before he tried again, "I spy?"
Elizabeth blinked in the darkness, "That was a joke, right?" she asked, shining her flashlight on his face briefly.
He shrugged, "Alright....if you were stuck on a deserted island, what one item would you bring with you?
She chuckled (another personal accomplishment for him today). "um...a book?"
"...Okay. Better than Ronon's answer. 'A boat'....Which book?"
"Hmm," she pursed her lips for a moment, "'Pride and Prejudice'."
"Ah. Jane Austen. Not bad."
She raised both Eyebrows this time. "You've read it?"
"Hey. Don't sound so surprised."
"Sorry...Just didn't think you'd be an Austen fan."
"Well...I've got....layers," that smirk again. "Like an ogre."
Elizabeth frowned. "What?"
"Shrek."
"Oh...right. I never saw that movie."
John frowned and shined his light in her eyes, "EVERYBODY saw that movie!"
"sorry," she squinted at the glare and pushed his arm away,"I was a little busy with international treaties at the time."
..."I guess that's understandable....Hold on, you've seen Toy Story, right?"
"Yes, I'm not crazy, Colonel."
"Just checking."

(I learned spoiler tags too!)
'Night!

MentallyUnstableFox, you must continue! I love how you've stayed true to the characters' personalities, which is my first priority when I attempt to write fanfic. After that, I worry about the plotline, which more or less falls into place if you can nail characterizations first. You definitely have much potential to write amazing Sparky fanfic, so please don't give up on this!