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Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday and Happy Easter! And thank you to syfyfan and Pocus for the cute Easter pics!
Originally posted by gateraid View PostRespected each other, sure, but what changed to make them friends? When they arrive back on the Deadalus, Teyla is their new BFF (or at least, that's the way that scene always comes across to me). Teyla was always (understandably) a lot closer to John than to Elizabeth, although The Gift may have changed that.
Originally posted by gateraid View PostThe irony of that is that given how little screentime Kanaan actually got, they'd hardly have had to do much to accomodate Ronon/Teyla, or Teyla/anyone else
Originally posted by gateraid View PostTo a point. There wasn't much John could do in that situation, he was following orders, regardless of whether Elizabeth agreed with them or not. I don't begrudge either of them for disagreeing over the plan, although they did seem to take it incredibly personally. The OOC John scene that stuck out to me was the Fantastic Four reference - he's a grown man, not twelve FCOL!
I always thought the mistake they made there was having Elizabeth only partially disagreeing (the line it's an ineffectual first strike turned out to be particularly accurate) with her wanting to stall the Asurans until the PWARW's were ready. They also flubbed in the Weir/Ellis office scene when she won him over (diplomacy, anyone?), although the "you don't have the authority" bit was a bit hammy.
I definitely agree with you about the idiocy with which they handled the conflict over the attack plan and Elizabeth dealing with Ellis. And then there's this...
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI hadn't thought about that angle. The idea that Weir was a woman didn't seem to make much difference. Why complain about it now? And that scene also gave the Weir haters more ammunition. It's like they were setting her up for removal. They wouldn't have done that, surely.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostSince that was one of the few scenes we had with someone actually grieving for Elizabeth, I don't think that would have been appropriate. The canonization of Spanky should have come when they spent the time together in the Return eps when the others were gone. They seemed very much like a couple then.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI always thought Teyla/Carson would have made sense. Having him be the father would have solved a lot of problems.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostEllis was a bit hammy throughout. He was an arrogant jerk, and Elizabeth easily handled him. They tried to make this about military vs civilian similar to Trinity. But it failed miserably. However, it does prove that John didn't do everything her way because she had emasculated him and/or he was afraid of her.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Oh, and one more thing...
S-minus 3 hours and 30 minutes until today's The Defiant One post-a-thon!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by syfyfan View Post
Originally posted by Pocus View Post
Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostOh, and one more thing...
S-minus 3 hours and 30 minutes until today's The Defiant One post-a-thon!
Happy Easter everyone and also Happy Passover.
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI love it, but I love your sig and avatar even more.
Originally posted by Southern Red View Post*iz jealous* But I'll be eating Hummingbird Cake and picking the feathers out of my teeth.
Originally posted by Southern Red View PostHappy Easter everyone and also Happy Passover.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../chocobuns.jpg(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Possibly saw a leprechaun today... that, or it was the Easterbunny... *ponders*
Anyhow, loving the B&B's that have free wifi...
I wrote a Carson/Teyla once. They're easy to write for as a couple, they could totally fit.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Guest have left so now I'm ready for the post-a-thon in two hours.
Originally posted by Southern Red View Post
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostPossibly saw a leprechaun today... that, or it was the Easterbunny... *ponders*
Anyhow, loving the B&B's that have free wifi...
I wrote a Carson/Teyla once. They're easy to write for as a couple, they could totally fit.
And yay for free wifi! Always love having that on a vacation.
Carson/Teyla... *sighs* I so wish they would've made that canon on the show.
Originally posted by Brie View PostGuest have left so now I'm ready for the post-a-thon in two hours.
S-minus 1 hour and 15 minutes to our The Defiant One post-a-thon!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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S-minus 30 minutes to today's The Defiant One post-a-thon!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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S-minus 15 minutes to The Defiant One!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by ShipperWriter View PostHi, I'm here, but I don't know if I'll be here through the entire post-a-thon. Having an off day and have some RL stuff I have to take care of. So I'll snark as much as possible while I can!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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S-minus 10 minutes!(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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